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I don't think the Jackal shield is made out of plasma; instead, it's some kind of energy field that can deflect things, because otherwise the Jackal would melt or something, because superheated plasma is, as the name suggests, really hot. So no, it shouldn't be able to deflect anything, but it should be able to melt bullets that come near enough to it. [[User:24.251.125.185|24.251.125.185]] 03:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC) | I don't think the Jackal shield is made out of plasma; instead, it's some kind of energy field that can deflect things, because otherwise the Jackal would melt or something, because superheated plasma is, as the name suggests, really hot. So no, it shouldn't be able to deflect anything, but it should be able to melt bullets that come near enough to it. [[User:24.251.125.185|24.251.125.185]] 03:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
*The plasma is heald by magnetic coils, when the handle is pressed the sword releases plasma, the plasma is then held and shaped into a lone triangle with a split center. That is why when you kill an elite in Halo 1 the sword coils stop and it permanently kills the weapon.--[[User:Darth nexes|<b><span style="color: purple">Admiral Sozai Nexes</span></b>]] | *The plasma is heald by magnetic coils, when the handle is pressed the sword releases plasma, the plasma is then held and shaped into a lone triangle with a split center. That is why when you kill an elite in Halo 1 the sword coils stop and it permanently kills the weapon.--[[User:Darth nexes|<b><span style="color: purple">Admiral Sozai Nexes</span></b>]] Image:.jpg|15 px <sup>[[User talk:Darth nexes|<b><span style="color: light purple">FLEETCOMM</span></b>]]</sup> 17:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC) | ||
In the new Halo 3 trailer released on dec 20 it shows an elite killing a brute on the ground with dual energy swords.This elite is seemingly the arbiter.user:shubi.s {{unsigned|Shubi.s}} | In the new Halo 3 trailer released on dec 20 it shows an elite killing a brute on the ground with dual energy swords.This elite is seemingly the arbiter.user:shubi.s {{unsigned|Shubi.s}} | ||
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As far as the currant game, (H3) What I can see, the Energy sword can stop another's thrust, not a bullet[[User talk:Jadedhonor|Jadedhonor]] 22:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC) | As far as the currant game, (H3) What I can see, the Energy sword can stop another's thrust, not a bullet[[User talk:Jadedhonor|Jadedhonor]] 22:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
The energy sword DOES DEFFLECT grenades if the grenades hit on the sword's blade. There is a video [[User:Daniel 019|<font color="DarkBlue">'''Dan'''</font><font color="Blue">'''iel'''</font><font color="LightBlue">''' 019'''</font>]] | The energy sword DOES DEFFLECT grenades if the grenades hit on the sword's blade. There is a video [[User:Daniel 019|<font color="DarkBlue">'''Dan'''</font><font color="Blue">'''iel'''</font><font color="LightBlue">''' 019'''</font>]] File:Before.JPG|35px]] <sup>[[User talk:Daniel 019|<font color="DarkGray">'''My Talk'''</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Daniel 019|<font color="Silver">'''My Work'''</font>]]</sub> | ||
Can it deflect grenades other than frags? -Dark Scion | Can it deflect grenades other than frags? -Dark Scion | ||
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== Gravity == | == Gravity == | ||
Does a energy sword have its own gravtatinal push? As seen on Burial Mounds the energy sword is floating. Is put in there by Bungie, but why? Can an energy sword push it self above metel because Burial Mounds apears that the ground could be made of Iron or Nickle, but the same thing happens on Ivory Tower. Is the energy sword possible to push its self from the ground or is it something Bungie put in there?[[User:Darth Gree|'''<font color="olive">The Consumed</font>''']] [[User Talk:Darth Gree|'''<font color="brown">,The Dead</font>''']] [[Special:Contributions/Darth Gree|'''<font color="purple">,and Living</font>''']] | Does a energy sword have its own gravtatinal push? As seen on Burial Mounds the energy sword is floating. Is put in there by Bungie, but why? Can an energy sword push it self above metel because Burial Mounds apears that the ground could be made of Iron or Nickle, but the same thing happens on Ivory Tower. Is the energy sword possible to push its self from the ground or is it something Bungie put in there?[[User:Darth Gree|'''<font color="olive">The Consumed</font>''']] [[User Talk:Darth Gree|'''<font color="brown">,The Dead</font>''']] [[Special:Contributions/Darth Gree|'''<font color="purple">,and Living</font>''']] | ||
File:ESE.JPG|20px]] 20:03, 29 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
It's on a weapon holder.[[Special:Contributions/98.196.212.50|98.196.212.50]] 06:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC) | It's on a weapon holder.[[Special:Contributions/98.196.212.50|98.196.212.50]] 06:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
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==Dual-Wielding Arguements and Discussions== | ==Dual-Wielding Arguements and Discussions== | ||
Here's my opinion assuming the swords damage is unchanged: Duel wielding 2 swords would be useless aside from 2 possibilities; 1. You could take out foes who requier 2 hits in a second. 2. Bungie made some kind of combo system. But what I never here people talk about is Dual-Wielding a sword and ''something else''. Imagine a sword and a | Here's my opinion assuming the swords damage is unchanged: Duel wielding 2 swords would be useless aside from 2 possibilities; 1. You could take out foes who requier 2 hits in a second. 2. Bungie made some kind of combo system. But what I never here people talk about is Dual-Wielding a sword and ''something else''. Imagine a sword and a {{Pattern|Okarda'phaa|plasma rifle}}. Or something even more powerful. | ||
--[[User:7th Destiny|7th Destiny]] | --[[User:7th Destiny|7th Destiny]] | ||
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==Only High-ranking elites can use Energy Swords?== | ==Only High-ranking elites can use Energy Swords?== | ||
I was playing Delta Halo when at the part when the second phantom comes,it droped off a ''blue'' elite with a Energy Sword. I snapped a picture of it but it's kinda hard to take a cellphone picture and backpedal from a rampaging elite at the same time. | I was playing Delta Halo when at the part when the second phantom comes,it droped off a ''blue'' elite with a Energy Sword. I snapped a picture of it but it's kinda hard to take a cellphone picture and backpedal from a rampaging elite at the same time. | ||
In the end I had to kill it to get a picture. Any theories as to why this happened?[[User:Spartansnak|SwordHater]] 11:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC) | In the end I had to kill it to get a picture. Any theories as to why this happened?[[User:Spartansnak|SwordHater]] 11:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)spartansnak | ||
File:Blueswordelite.jpg|thumb|right|minor elite with sword.]] | |||
I dunno, loads of Elites are seen using them, I don't care much about it, just gun them down, you know me![[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 12:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC) | I dunno, loads of Elites are seen using them, I don't care much about it, just gun them down, you know me![[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 12:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Yeah, Only higher elites(ultra up)can use energy swords. If you try to give an energy sword to a Minor Or major Domo elite you won't be sucsesful. Here i had to fight a Minor domo with an energy sword![[User:Spartansnak|SwordHater]] 13:54, 22 June 2007 (UTC) | Yeah, Only higher elites(ultra up)can use energy swords. If you try to give an energy sword to a Minor Or major Domo elite you won't be sucsesful. Here i had to fight a Minor domo with an energy sword![[User:Spartansnak|SwordHater]] 13:54, 22 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
I disagree with Spartansnak, because on the level of halo 2 "Uprising" you can find a Minor Elite with an Energy Sword. [[User:Spartan-007|Spartan-G007]] | I disagree with Spartansnak, because on the level of halo 2 "Uprising" you can find a Minor Elite with an Energy Sword. [[User:Spartan-007|Spartan-G007]] File:kpisalasergod2.gif|35px]] <sup>[http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=SpartanG007 <font color=green>XBL gamertag:SpartanG007</font>]</sup> | ||
:Actually, he's a Spec Ops Elite. But Spartansnak is still wrong, you can give any Elite an Energy Sword. -[[User:Azathoth|The Dark Lord Azathoth]] 12:32, 24 August 2007 (UTC) | :Actually, he's a Spec Ops Elite. But Spartansnak is still wrong, you can give any Elite an Energy Sword. -[[User:Azathoth|The Dark Lord Azathoth]] 12:32, 24 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
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I am just too jumpy to notice them, because I always get a blow when I try to get near them and have a good look at them (obviously I am playing as the MC)![[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 11:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC) | I am just too jumpy to notice them, because I always get a blow when I try to get near them and have a good look at them (obviously I am playing as the MC)![[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 11:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
:I was playing Regret (the level...duh) and i faced a minor elite with a sword during the part on the first bridge when you get out of the room in the beginning of the level...yes...kinda hard to explain. | :I was playing Regret (the level...duh) and i faced a minor elite with a sword during the part on the first bridge when you get out of the room in the beginning of the level...yes...kinda hard to explain. Emosworld 09:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
Actually, it IS possible to give a minor Elite an Energy Sword. Play 'the arbiter' and try to swap your sword for the beam rifle (from the guy that has it, of course). | Actually, it IS possible to give a minor Elite an Energy Sword. Play 'the arbiter' and try to swap your sword for the beam rifle (from the guy that has it, of course). | ||
:What are you talking about??? ALL Elites in ''The Arbiter'' are Spec Op Elites. -- | :What are you talking about??? ALL Elites in ''The Arbiter'' are Spec Op Elites. --File:Blemo Logo.jpg|35px]] <font color="steelblue">[[User:Blemo|Blemo]]</font> <sup>[[user talk:Blemo|(Talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blemo|(Contributions)]]</sup> 01:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC) | ||
Those curves at the back of the energy sword...it's very close to the users wrist...I'm surprised they don't accidently slice their hand off.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 14:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC) | Those curves at the back of the energy sword...it's very close to the users wrist...I'm surprised they don't accidently slice their hand off.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 14:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
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==Campaing/multiplayer recommendations== | ==Campaing/multiplayer recommendations== | ||
for a while i thought about deleting the campaing and multiplayer recommendations section. it just seems out of place like it shouldn't be there. Plus thats what the HaloWiki.net link is for right? --[[User:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Green">EliteSpartan</span></b>]] | for a while i thought about deleting the campaing and multiplayer recommendations section. it just seems out of place like it shouldn't be there. Plus thats what the HaloWiki.net link is for right? --[[User:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Green">EliteSpartan</span></b>]]File:Halo3.comchief.PNG|30px]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Black">My Talk</span></b>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|<b><font color=black>My Contribs</font></b>]]</sub>File:Sergeant.jpg|30px]]File:GDI.jpg|30px]] October 20, 2007 | ||
==About the pic== | ==About the pic== | ||
Can anyone put up a better pic of the Energy Sword, the sword color blended with the background. [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''<font color="Silver">'''Master'''</font><font color="DarkGray">'''Chief'''</font><font color="Gray">Petty</font><font color="DimGray">Officer</font>''']]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Master Chief Petty Officer|<font color="RoyalBlue">Spartan Contribution</font>]]</sub> 13:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC) | Can anyone put up a better pic of the Energy Sword, the sword color blended with the background. [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''<font color="Silver">'''Master'''</font><font color="DarkGray">'''Chief'''</font><font color="Gray">Petty</font><font color="DimGray">Officer</font>''']]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Master Chief Petty Officer|<font color="RoyalBlue">Spartan Contribution</font>]]</sub> 13:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Um, no. Policy here is that stuff on white backgrounds rock. Anyway, you can put that in the gallery oon the page itself.--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] | :Um, no. Policy here is that stuff on white backgrounds rock. Anyway, you can put that in the gallery oon the page itself.--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] File:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">CSV</font>]]</sub> 13:25, 1 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
Wha? I mean, you can't even tell where is the Sword by the looks of it, can anyone get a pic from the Forge and put it up? [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''<font color="Silver">'''Master'''</font><font color="DarkGray">'''Chief'''</font><font color="Gray">Petty</font><font color="DimGray">Officer</font>''']]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Master Chief Petty Officer|<font color="RoyalBlue">Spartan Contribution</font>]]</sub> 03:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC) | Wha? I mean, you can't even tell where is the Sword by the looks of it, can anyone get a pic from the Forge and put it up? [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''<font color="Silver">'''Master'''</font><font color="DarkGray">'''Chief'''</font><font color="Gray">Petty</font><font color="DimGray">Officer</font>''']]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Master Chief Petty Officer|<font color="RoyalBlue">Spartan Contribution</font>]]</sub> 03:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Agreed. I removed the trivia as it was partially biased. Thanks for the tip, anon. | Agreed. I removed the trivia as it was partially biased. Thanks for the tip, anon. | ||
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== In Multiplayer == | == In Multiplayer == | ||
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Does anyone know if the Energy Sword is going to be usable in the [[Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary|remake]] of Halo 1? It would be nice if that could be changed to become possible. A nice, new feature previously not possible to do. [[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 22:06, 29 August 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | Does anyone know if the Energy Sword is going to be usable in the [[Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary|remake]] of Halo 1? It would be nice if that could be changed to become possible. A nice, new feature previously not possible to do. [[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 22:06, 29 August 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | ||
== Working with active camouflage/invisibility: canon or gameplay? == | |||
I wanted to amend the article's gameplay section and/or trivia by adding a sentence somewhere along the lines of the above topic but I couldn't find any conclusive evidence that an energy sword can be covered by active camouflage/invisibility. | |||
To look back, the energy sword in H1 and H2 is not covered by the ability, to which I think should be the canon position. This is confirmed in ''Forward unto Dawn'' when the invisible Zealot was wielding the weapon and in ''Headhunters'' with the special Special Operations Sangheili team with blood-red swords. The only media where the sword is covered by the ability can only be found in the gameplay of H3, HR and H4. | |||
Anyone else can find something stronger to confirm this, that, in canon, the energy sword cannot be covered by active camouflage/invisibility? — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 10:00, 16 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
:Rereading ''Headhunters'' it's a bit of both. While the sword is visible while the first Elite is camoed, it's only while stabbing Roland and swinging at Jonah. Then when the others ignite their swords, they're still camoed, and Jonah can only see them and their swords because of VISR. One could say perhaps their camo takes a while to recover of the weapon right after it's been used. | |||
:In my opinion, each of the different methods, all camoed or floating sword, can be viewed as canon by 343's new favorite word: variants. We know that there's different types of active camo plugs, such as the ''Halo 4'' [[Type-3 active camouflage|version]] that works like an armor ability and the ''Halo 3'' [[Cloaking|equipment]] version that's one use only. Those Spec Ops Elites also had chameleon armor underneath their cloaking field. So whether or not the sword is hidden or not might depend on what technology is fielded. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:50, 16 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
:EDIT: Worth noting is that Waypoint's [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/weapons/active-camouflage active camo article] has the camo cloaking the sword. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:23, 16 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
::Having revised ''Headhunters'' (both the short story and the motion comic), it seems that the Elite quickly activated his energy sword before it made contact with Roland. The novel version makes no mention of the sword as being cloaked. Also, when the scene shifts away from Jonah's view, we can see that the energy swords are not covered by the active camouflage: rather, the energy swords remain visible when activated by the Elites. With regards to Waypoint, the image used in that article is a gameplay image which is most likely not to be an accurate portrayal of an active camouflage as it is restricted to the game engine. The energy dagger in ''Halo: Reach'' comes to mind; even when not activated, the energy dagger remains "visible/active" in active camouflage. So, canon or gameplay? — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 12:39, 5 September 2015 (EDT) | |||
:It may be a gameplay image, but I think they treat the picture as an accurate representation, being the main image on their page. Overall, I think it's risky to make a conclusive statement on the subject here without a conclusive statement from the makers. Who knows, maybe the camo in Halo 4 is an upgraded version from the wartime module that can now hide swords. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:56, 5 September 2015 (EDT) | |||