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==Other characters== | ==Other characters== | ||
Do we have any confirmation that Fred, Kelly, or Linda will be in Glasslands?--[[User:Halofan1234|ハローファン]] ([[User talk:Halofan1234|H1234-NET]]) 00:39, 28 July 2011 (EDT) | Do we have any confirmation that Fred, Kelly, or Linda will be in Glasslands?--[[User:Halofan1234|ハローファン]] ([[User talk:Halofan1234|H1234-NET]]) 00:39, 28 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:They'll most definitely be in the novel; but we'll wait until we get more solid info, an excerpt, or the novel's release to add them. | :They'll most definitely be in the novel; but we'll wait until we get more solid info, an excerpt, or the novel's release to add them. [[User:Grizzlei|CommanderTony]] | ||
::Alright sounds good.--[[User:Halofan1234|ハローファン]] ([[User talk:Halofan1234|H1234-NET]]) 00:57, 28 July 2011 (EDT) | ::Alright sounds good.--[[User:Halofan1234|ハローファン]] ([[User talk:Halofan1234|H1234-NET]]) 00:57, 28 July 2011 (EDT) | ||
:::In addition to my previous question, seeing that there is a mission to Sanghelios, could Arbiter Thel Vadam make an appearance?--[[User:Halofan1234|ハローファン]] ([[User talk:Halofan1234|H1234-NET]]) 18:38, 11 August 2011 (EDT) | :::In addition to my previous question, seeing that there is a mission to Sanghelios, could Arbiter Thel Vadam make an appearance?--[[User:Halofan1234|ハローファン]] ([[User talk:Halofan1234|H1234-NET]]) 18:38, 11 August 2011 (EDT) | ||
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There appears to be a possible easter egg regarding Halo Waypoint. Traviss mentions several times a news agency called "Waypoint." I, at least, think it's an easter egg, but would like other opinions. [[User talk:AarrowOM|AarrowOM]] 14:02, 26 October 2011 (EDT) | There appears to be a possible easter egg regarding Halo Waypoint. Traviss mentions several times a news agency called "Waypoint." I, at least, think it's an easter egg, but would like other opinions. [[User talk:AarrowOM|AarrowOM]] 14:02, 26 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
I first thought that too, when one of the quotes mentions "Waypoint Nine News". | I first thought that too, when one of the quotes mentions "Waypoint Nine News". [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 14:05, 26 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
:That's indeed ann Easter Egg. But Halsey's Journal also contained several news bulletins that were from 'Waypoint'. Definately an homage. There's already a page on it though.--[[User talk:Thijsbos|Thijsbos]] 02:52, 2 December 2011 (EST) | :That's indeed ann Easter Egg. But Halsey's Journal also contained several news bulletins that were from 'Waypoint'. Definately an homage. There's already a page on it though.--[[User talk:Thijsbos|Thijsbos]] 02:52, 2 December 2011 (EST) | ||
== Game only appearance list == | == Game only appearance list == | ||
Considering the scope of the novels, comics, etc. over video games, there should be any particular reason why we have a limited section devoted to in-universe assets (characters, locations, vehicles, etc.) for novels. Nothing in the Manual of Style, etc. suggested that this was a policy worth noting. It would be quite wise to continue to have such content on here, and for assets in other expanded universe material. I'm putting this content back on tomorrow morning (good ol' Pacific time) if nobody has anything to rebuttal concerning my recommendation. Cheers! | Considering the scope of the novels, comics, etc. over video games, there should be any particular reason why we have a limited section devoted to in-universe assets (characters, locations, vehicles, etc.) for novels. Nothing in the Manual of Style, etc. suggested that this was a policy worth noting. It would be quite wise to continue to have such content on here, and for assets in other expanded universe material. I'm putting this content back on tomorrow morning (good ol' Pacific time) if nobody has anything to rebuttal concerning my recommendation. Cheers! [[User:Grizzlei|CommanderTony]] | ||
:Standards for novel articles is to present Characters section only; this is evident in all novel articles (from FoR to Cryptum) and such practice hasn't changed till this novel was released. Also, it is not recorded in the MoS because the MoS is severely outdated. I suggest the administration team to look into these policies and style guides, and update them to promote consistency, clarity and quality. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 19:55, 27 October 2011 (EDT) | :Standards for novel articles is to present Characters section only; this is evident in all novel articles (from FoR to Cryptum) and such practice hasn't changed till this novel was released. Also, it is not recorded in the MoS because the MoS is severely outdated. I suggest the administration team to look into these policies and style guides, and update them to promote consistency, clarity and quality. :) — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 19:55, 27 October 2011 (EDT) | ||
::Very well, i'll look into this later. Please void the content re-add deadline as that won't be necessary. Thank you. | ::Very well, i'll look into this later. Please void the content re-add deadline as that won't be necessary. Thank you. [[User:Grizzlei|CommanderTony]] | ||
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What I wanted to happen: Blue Team meets Forerunners, Blue Team discovers Forerunner Warships and uses them to do...anything, that all the Shield Worlds would be linked and that John would go to the Legendary planet and go to the Shield world and see Blue Team, and that Jorge would come out of SlipStream space '''inside''' the sphere and then they would all be frolicking in the grass forever (not really that last part). | What I wanted to happen: Blue Team meets Forerunners, Blue Team discovers Forerunner Warships and uses them to do...anything, that all the Shield Worlds would be linked and that John would go to the Legendary planet and go to the Shield world and see Blue Team, and that Jorge would come out of SlipStream space '''inside''' the sphere and then they would all be frolicking in the grass forever (not really that last part). | ||
My general thoughts: I really liked the book. Keep 'em coming, Travis! Vegerot goes RAWR! | My general thoughts: I really liked the book. Keep 'em coming, Travis! Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 20:56, 5 November 2011 (EDT) | ||
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I generally didnt enjoy the book. i thought that she left too many unanswered questions, didnt use enough facts from the previous books, and didnt write in the format that was a HALO book. She gave the AI black box a great personality, but he bacame way too human. Or the Spartans, they were to civilian. The fact that she gave them personalities that completly counteracted the stoic quiteness that we are used too, and have come too expect. i thought the book deserves a 2/5. Nothing more, nothing less. very few technology, almost no fights, gave the Sangheili human traits, and butchered what shouldve been a big read.-'''HTRK74JR''' | I generally didnt enjoy the book. i thought that she left too many unanswered questions, didnt use enough facts from the previous books, and didnt write in the format that was a HALO book. She gave the AI black box a great personality, but he bacame way too human. Or the Spartans, they were to civilian. The fact that she gave them personalities that completly counteracted the stoic quiteness that we are used too, and have come too expect. i thought the book deserves a 2/5. Nothing more, nothing less. very few technology, almost no fights, gave the Sangheili human traits, and butchered what shouldve been a big read.-'''HTRK74JR''' | ||
:Remember this book is part of a series of books, so any questions in this book should be answered in future books.--''''' | :Remember this book is part of a series of books, so any questions in this book should be answered in future books.--'''''<span style="color:green">Commander</span>''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:red">Halofan1234</span>]] (''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">I say</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">the cabal</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:purple">does not exist</span>]]'') 23:09, 1 December 2011 (EST) | ||
::I share the sentiment HTRK74JR. I'm not a fan of it at all, and as a result I haven't read the rest of the Kilo Five trilogy directly ''because'' of that book (though I have read synopses, which suffice for the core information. I remember reading a statement of hers that she doesn't like to know too much about a universe that she's writing about (which results in writing from ignorance,) so that she doesn't form biases with characters and the like. Something that's ridiculous, as ''Glasslands'' would have had the very applicable "Halsey is Hitler and everyone suddenly hates her". In earlier novels, we certainly got characters that rivaled Halsey, and the morally questionable nature of the Spartan II program was never shied away from. But Traviss took all of that and just ramped it up to 11, so much so that it was ridiculous and broke several character personalities - Halsey included. It's my theory that everything from Halo 4 to Halo 5 (including Hunt the Truth) was done to solve the many problems introduced by ''Glasslands''. | ::I share the sentiment HTRK74JR. I'm not a fan of it at all, and as a result I haven't read the rest of the Kilo Five trilogy directly ''because'' of that book (though I have read synopses, which suffice for the core information. I remember reading a statement of hers that she doesn't like to know too much about a universe that she's writing about (which results in writing from ignorance,) so that she doesn't form biases with characters and the like. Something that's ridiculous, as ''Glasslands'' would have had the very applicable "Halsey is Hitler and everyone suddenly hates her". In earlier novels, we certainly got characters that rivaled Halsey, and the morally questionable nature of the Spartan II program was never shied away from. But Traviss took all of that and just ramped it up to 11, so much so that it was ridiculous and broke several character personalities - Halsey included. It's my theory that everything from Halo 4 to Halo 5 (including Hunt the Truth) was done to solve the many problems introduced by ''Glasslands''. | ||
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Does halo glasslands answers questions like how many colonies are left and what the human population is like and what they are doing with forunner technology{{Unsigned|Spartan Matt}} | Does halo glasslands answers questions like how many colonies are left and what the human population is like and what they are doing with forunner technology{{Unsigned|Spartan Matt}} | ||
:It just talks about colonies that have been glassed and colonies that are homeworlds of the characters.--''''' | :It just talks about colonies that have been glassed and colonies that are homeworlds of the characters.--'''''<span style="color:green">Lt. Commander</span>''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:cyan">光环的家伙1234</span>]] '''''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]]''''' ''([[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:gold">Contribs</span>]])'' '''([[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:cyan">Edits</span>]])''' 00:00, 7 November 2011 (EST) | ||
::There is some mention of integration of Forerunner tech by humans, but basically, yea it's just the glassed colonies and the characters homeworlds. | ::There is some mention of integration of Forerunner tech by humans, but basically, yea it's just the glassed colonies and the characters homeworlds.[[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 01:32, 7 November 2011 (EST) | ||
==Summary== | ==Summary== | ||
Somebody please update the plot section of this page ASAP. I still haven't gotten a copy, so I can't. But this NEEDS to be written, all the other pages are already. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 17:35, 11 December 2011 (EST) | Somebody please update the plot section of this page ASAP. I still haven't gotten a copy, so I can't. But this NEEDS to be written, all the other pages are already. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 17:35, 11 December 2011 (EST) | ||
:No kidding, hence the reason the out of date template is on the article.--''''' | :No kidding, hence the reason the out of date template is on the article.--'''''<span style="color:green">Commander</span>''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:red">Halofan1234</span>]] (''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">I say</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">the cabal</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:purple">does not exist</span>]]'') 17:37, 11 December 2011 (EST) | ||
::I read the book and may work on it. It seems that no one has given it a try so I might. I went ahead and changed "Plot" to say "Plot Synopsis" since its not really the whole summary. If I get a whole summary written I'll go ahead and add the "Plot" section below "Plot Synopsis".--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 11:14, 21 January 2012 (EST) | ::I read the book and may work on it. It seems that no one has given it a try so I might. I went ahead and changed "Plot" to say "Plot Synopsis" since its not really the whole summary. If I get a whole summary written I'll go ahead and add the "Plot" section below "Plot Synopsis".--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 11:14, 21 January 2012 (EST) | ||
:::Go ahead.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | :::Go ahead.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} | ||
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::I agree. That is a bit of a hefty upgrade to materialize from nanotech but at the same time the jetpack may have been for "artistic" purposes (to give the chief his acrobats in the trailer) and may not be part of the suit or could be something that was added later after the automated upgrades. At the same time the extent of those nano upgrades hasn't been identified. So its theoretical for now.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 12:52, 12 February 2012 (EST) | ::I agree. That is a bit of a hefty upgrade to materialize from nanotech but at the same time the jetpack may have been for "artistic" purposes (to give the chief his acrobats in the trailer) and may not be part of the suit or could be something that was added later after the automated upgrades. At the same time the extent of those nano upgrades hasn't been identified. So its theoretical for now.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 12:52, 12 February 2012 (EST) | ||
:<s>I remember someone suggesting somewhere that Cortana was the one who beefed up the Warthogs in Forza 4 with survival gear, rather than just being powered down the whole time. It sounds reasonable, and if you accept that, it also sounds reasonable that she puyt her considerable intellect towards designing and fabricating a new, more advanced powered armour system for the Chief using the limited construction tools and resources of the FUD's armoury and vehicle maintenance sections. She is, after all, based on the mind of its creator, Dr. Halsey, and we know that an AI who doesn't keep busy is an AI on the short path to rampancy - it not only improves the Chief's survival prospects, but it lengthens her own lifespan too. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[ | :<s>I remember someone suggesting somewhere that Cortana was the one who beefed up the Warthogs in Forza 4 with survival gear, rather than just being powered down the whole time. It sounds reasonable, and if you accept that, it also sounds reasonable that she puyt her considerable intellect towards designing and fabricating a new, more advanced powered armour system for the Chief using the limited construction tools and resources of the FUD's armoury and vehicle maintenance sections. She is, after all, based on the mind of its creator, Dr. Halsey, and we know that an AI who doesn't keep busy is an AI on the short path to rampancy - it not only improves the Chief's survival prospects, but it lengthens her own lifespan too. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:27, 12 February 2012 (EST)</s> | ||
::Yeah, just realised this is the wrong talk page for this. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[ | ::Yeah, just realised this is the wrong talk page for this. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:28, 12 February 2012 (EST) | ||
==Plot== | ==Plot== | ||