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Halo Wars has skulls, as confirmed [http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/halowars/video/6204958/halo-wars-video-review?hd=1 here]. Shouldn't we create an article about them? - [[User:JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">Μητσάρας</span>''']] [[User talk:JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">κι όποιος</span>''']] [[Special:Contributions/JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">αντέξει</span>''']] File:1229655910-Th_master.jpg|20px]] 20:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Halo Wars has skulls, as confirmed [http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/halowars/video/6204958/halo-wars-video-review?hd=1 here]. Shouldn't we create an article about them? - [[User:JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">Μητσάρας</span>''']] [[User talk:JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">κι όποιος</span>''']] [[Special:Contributions/JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">αντέξει</span>''']] File:1229655910-Th_master.jpg|20px]] 20:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


:Guess we'd better wait the game to be released.. after that we '''will''' for sure :) {{User:Spirit of Fire/Sig}} 19:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:Guess we'd better wait the game to be released.. after that we '''will''' for sure :) Spirit of Fire 19:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


It is released, and there are skulls. Why don't we go find them?
It is released, and there are skulls. Why don't we go find them?
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Does anyone know how getting the map pack work? I mean, you have a disc, but does it download to your system to be accessible to Halo 3, or is it a free copy only to the disc, & you have to download it anyway? [[User talk:Deimel Longshot|Deimel Longshot]] 19:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)Deimel Longshot[[User talk:Deimel Longshot|Deimel Longshot]] 19:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know how getting the map pack work? I mean, you have a disc, but does it download to your system to be accessible to Halo 3, or is it a free copy only to the disc, & you have to download it anyway? [[User talk:Deimel Longshot|Deimel Longshot]] 19:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)Deimel Longshot[[User talk:Deimel Longshot|Deimel Longshot]] 19:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


:For the Limited Edition Halo Wars? I think it'll probably be on a disc, or perhaps a code to download it. For the map pack itself, standing apart from Halo Wars, it'll be purchasable with 800 MS points, as always. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 05:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
:For the Limited Edition Halo Wars? I think it'll probably be on a disc, or perhaps a code to download it. For the map pack itself, standing apart from Halo Wars, it'll be purchasable with 800 MS points, as always. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 05:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


with the limited collectors edition you recieve a redeem code for the honor guard wraith, Halo 3 map pack and Xbox Live trial on a piece of card.[[User talk:Molotovsniper|Molotovsniper]] 09:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
with the limited collectors edition you recieve a redeem code for the honor guard wraith, Halo 3 map pack and Xbox Live trial on a piece of card.[[User talk:Molotovsniper|Molotovsniper]] 09:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
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== All Halo Wars Cinematics on Youtube ==
== All Halo Wars Cinematics on Youtube ==
{{Spoiler}}
{{Spoiler/begin}}
I just discovered the entire theatre of CGI cinematics on youtube. I think we should post them here, but I don't know how to myself (And if I do something wrong, I know you all will yell at me, lol). Here are the links, so could someone put them up to play in the trailers section. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWBe_9R_qIY&feature=channel] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYY0VzAKh2U&feature=channel] --[[User talk:Darktrooper117|Darktrooper117]] 03:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
I just discovered the entire theatre of CGI cinematics on youtube. I think we should post them here, but I don't know how to myself (And if I do something wrong, I know you all will yell at me, lol). Here are the links, so could someone put them up to play in the trailers section. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWBe_9R_qIY&feature=channel] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYY0VzAKh2U&feature=channel] --[[User talk:Darktrooper117|Darktrooper117]] 03:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


:I just added a spoiler tag to your post. Rest assured, once the game comes out the cutscenes will undoubtedly be uploaded individually, and added to the cutscene archive.  --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 04:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
:I just added a spoiler tag to your post. Rest assured, once the game comes out the cutscenes will undoubtedly be uploaded individually, and added to the cutscene archive.  --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 04:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)


== Released? ==
== Released? ==
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*It wont be removed people like to use the number given in the fall of reach for how many Spartans are left even thou that number changes a bit in the throughout the book. People seem to want it in the article so much it's now in there twice with additional "Violation's of Halo Cannon" that isn't backed up or is contradicted somewhere else.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 01:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
*It wont be removed people like to use the number given in the fall of reach for how many Spartans are left even thou that number changes a bit in the throughout the book. People seem to want it in the article so much it's now in there twice with additional "Violation's of Halo Cannon" that isn't backed up or is contradicted somewhere else.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 01:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC)


People are forgetting that there were 35 Spartans that survived augmentation. Subtract Kurt, Randall and Shiela as MIA, Cassandra as WIA, Grey team, and the original Red Team, and you get 25 Spartans, the number the timeline states. And remember, Eric Nylund contradicts ''himself'' a lot from TFoR to FS, so his numbers, while they came first, may not be as accurate as they were intended to be. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 07:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
People are forgetting that there were 35 Spartans that survived augmentation. Subtract Kurt, Randall and Shiela as MIA, Cassandra as WIA, Grey team, and the original Red Team, and you get 25 Spartans, the number the timeline states. And remember, Eric Nylund contradicts ''himself'' a lot from TFoR to FS, so his numbers, while they came first, may not be as accurate as they were intended to be. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 07:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


The number also changes a few times during TFOR so that makes it less clear still.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 07:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
The number also changes a few times during TFOR so that makes it less clear still.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 07:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
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''Update: have moved "violation" addressing to blog''
''Update: have moved "violation" addressing to blog''


--<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 03:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
--<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 03:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


:A good call. [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 03:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
:A good call. [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 03:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
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::They used the mark VI armor in halo 2 as well and we didn't see the magnetic strip there either and he didn't get new armor in between halo 2 and 3 and did say they didn't have it on the earlier versions of the armor.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 03:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
::They used the mark VI armor in halo 2 as well and we didn't see the magnetic strip there either and he didn't get new armor in between halo 2 and 3 and did say they didn't have it on the earlier versions of the armor.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 03:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


::I've removed that section altogether, and am considering protecting the page to prevent its re-addition. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 01:52, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
::I've removed that section altogether, and am considering protecting the page to prevent its re-addition. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 01:52, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


::Listen, it is not a vendetta against Ensemble, but i love these books and video games and any fault should be addressed. and if you have a problem with what someone is writing, confront them first about it instead of saying things like they have problems with things that they don't. be a man... [[User talk:Psycho60|Psycho60]] 01:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::Listen, it is not a vendetta against Ensemble, but i love these books and video games and any fault should be addressed. and if you have a problem with what someone is writing, confront them first about it instead of saying things like they have problems with things that they don't. be a man... [[User talk:Psycho60|Psycho60]] 01:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


:::I did address it with you. I sent you a board message that apparently got ignored. I pointed you to an article where it would be more appropriate. I also tried to condense and reformat it, removing the "violations" that are not really violations at all. That was deleted, and the previous version was re-added. I never said you ''had'' a vendetta, only that it was how it ''looked''. And as for "being a man"? I'm twenty in June for heavens sake, and ''I'm'' the one being lectured to? --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 02:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I did address it with you. I sent you a board message that apparently got ignored. I pointed you to an article where it would be more appropriate. I also tried to condense and reformat it, removing the "violations" that are not really violations at all. That was deleted, and the previous version was re-added. I never said you ''had'' a vendetta, only that it was how it ''looked''. And as for "being a man"? I'm twenty in June for heavens sake, and ''I'm'' the one being lectured to? --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 02:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC)


:::It relates to the game, therefore it should remain on the page. Try and discuss which parts that you feel aren't backed by the books or games and we'll see which ones should remain here and which ones i'll put everywhere else. yes, you are being lectured to because it is not hard to figure out who was writing what, that's how i found you. so why wouldn't you talk it over rather than just butcher it? they are violations, cross check them with all of the other material. i haven't made one thing that i wrote up.
:::It relates to the game, therefore it should remain on the page. Try and discuss which parts that you feel aren't backed by the books or games and we'll see which ones should remain here and which ones i'll put everywhere else. yes, you are being lectured to because it is not hard to figure out who was writing what, that's how i found you. so why wouldn't you talk it over rather than just butcher it? they are violations, cross check them with all of the other material. i haven't made one thing that i wrote up.


::::I did address them. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 08:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::::I did address them. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 08:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Shouldn't any actual inconsistancies and discrepancies go on the 'List of Inconsistances in Halo' page anyway? *would link the actual page but hasn't figured out how to do that yet* [[User talk:Zeno &#39;Ribal|Zeno &#39;Ribal]] 17:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Shouldn't any actual inconsistancies and discrepancies go on the 'List of Inconsistances in Halo' page anyway? *would link the actual page but hasn't figured out how to do that yet* [[User talk:Zeno &#39;Ribal|Zeno &#39;Ribal]] 17:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Not in a freaking blog, 1on1 personally. tell ME which parts you have a problem with so i can better determine how to edit them
:::Not in a freaking blog, 1on1 personally. tell ME which parts you have a problem with so i can better determine how to edit them
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:You'd rather Ensemble dedicated half of the gameplay to just placing a base? Most of the people who play this are going to have the attention spans of chimpanzees, and would want to get right into the fight. They don't have time or patience that traditional RTS players have, and the game needs to take that into account. Besides that, the controller doesn't really give the player much in the way of options.
:You'd rather Ensemble dedicated half of the gameplay to just placing a base? Most of the people who play this are going to have the attention spans of chimpanzees, and would want to get right into the fight. They don't have time or patience that traditional RTS players have, and the game needs to take that into account. Besides that, the controller doesn't really give the player much in the way of options.


:I agree that it reduces tactical options, but it was a conscious decision by Ensemble to focus more on action than micro-managing. They could have enhanced it somewhat with more structures with specialised functions - decide which tech tree you ''had'' to follow, and make the player stick with it, rather than select leaders pre-game. Once you build, say, an "ONI Armoury", you had a set of upgrades that you can use, but can't build other types. And etc. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 10:23, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
:I agree that it reduces tactical options, but it was a conscious decision by Ensemble to focus more on action than micro-managing. They could have enhanced it somewhat with more structures with specialised functions - decide which tech tree you ''had'' to follow, and make the player stick with it, rather than select leaders pre-game. Once you build, say, an "ONI Armoury", you had a set of upgrades that you can use, but can't build other types. And etc. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 10:23, 29 March 2009 (UTC)


Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a bad design.  A large portion of the people I've talked to appreciate not having to spend so much energy managing economy or building locations, particularly with the limited controls of a console.  Independent of personal opinions, it's irrelevant to the Wiki, unless in a section on critical review, which should be from cited sources.
Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a bad design.  A large portion of the people I've talked to appreciate not having to spend so much energy managing economy or building locations, particularly with the limited controls of a console.  Independent of personal opinions, it's irrelevant to the Wiki, unless in a section on critical review, which should be from cited sources.
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::::All of which are inherent requirements of sci fi. It's really the same logic that says all JRPGs are Final Fantasy rip-offs. There's really no such thing as a modern, original game because just about everything has been done already. If we seriously only bought games with no similarities to older games, we'd still be stuck with nothing but pong and pac-man because most games are just the modification and fixing of older ones. Or did you think that I was saying it was a "rip-off"? If this is the case, I was just pointing out the inconsistancy of selective ignorance.--[[User:Werefang|<font color="#006400">'''''<u>Were</u>'''''</font>]][[User talk:Werefang|<font color="#006400">'''''<u>fan</u>g'''''</font>]] 23:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)  
::::All of which are inherent requirements of sci fi. It's really the same logic that says all JRPGs are Final Fantasy rip-offs. There's really no such thing as a modern, original game because just about everything has been done already. If we seriously only bought games with no similarities to older games, we'd still be stuck with nothing but pong and pac-man because most games are just the modification and fixing of older ones. Or did you think that I was saying it was a "rip-off"? If this is the case, I was just pointing out the inconsistancy of selective ignorance.--[[User:Werefang|<font color="#006400">'''''<u>Were</u>'''''</font>]][[User talk:Werefang|<font color="#006400">'''''<u>fan</u>g'''''</font>]] 23:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)  


The vandal has been given a six month ban. The banhammer's thirst has been quenched with blood, and has been sheathed to await its glorious return. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 23:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
The vandal has been given a six month ban. The banhammer's thirst has been quenched with blood, and has been sheathed to await its glorious return. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 23:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


most of the stuff on this page is all questions about stuff that most of us have already had awnsers to all that stuff by playin' the game.
most of the stuff on this page is all questions about stuff that most of us have already had awnsers to all that stuff by playin' the game.