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== Covenant Separatists not the same as Heretics ==

Well, the Heretics should be mentioned. The Arbiter at first was warned about how The Prophets were leading them to their doom, and the Elites at the time were unaware of really what was going on. They were warned of this. That warning should be mentioned since it contributes to the history of the Separatist movement. Also, the Oracle's perspective and the Prophet's perspective is important to mention because the Elites were stuck between a rock and a hard place: treason vs. damnation. This should all be mentioned to the point that its background information on the Elites leaving the Covenant. --[[User talk:J miester25|J miester25]] 04:10, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

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*Saved the human race from destruction towards the end of the human-covenant war"

this is the truth. the humans are basicly beaten into submission, the loyalists have been destroyed and the flood isnt a threat anymore. the forerunners dont count anymore because they are gone. the seperatists have superior numbers and lots of colonys. i seriously doubt they were as badly decimated as the humans were. the humans were fought for like 20 years and beaten into a low population on one planet. the elite seperatists have been spacefaring much longer than the humans and obviously have alot more worlds under control. No problem about the elites saving humans bit though. -antihero

hasn't the covenant dissolved? surely now its every races looking after their selves. the sepritist didn't really have lots of colonies because it was each races colonies to protect. also humans wernt low populated on earth. they had multiple colonies and the only population figure for earth of halo ive seen is that of earth in the last year of the war. just saying ya know that now factions should be individual races [[User talk:DeadReanimation|DeadReanimation]] 11:41, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

::Do you think that the loyalist are gonna launch a counter attack against the sepratist cause like after the ark was destroyed the sepratist proberly absorbed some loalist troops but theres still 6 halos left (btw was delta halo destroyed after halo 2?)

:::In no canon anywhere is it explicitly stated that the ''Sangheili'' have other colonies as population centres. In fact it is actually stated that they have no other population centres other than ''Sangheilios'' in the ''Encyclopaedia''. So in regards to being the most powerful faction in Halo, from a territorial perspective, they are not. Their fleet numbers have dwindled to the point where they were forced to abandon their campaign against the ''Jiralhanae'' to defend themselves. Unable to produce new weaponry and ships, unable to repair them, and lacking the knowledge to do so (Implying no Tier 2 or even Tier 3 understanding within their society of physics, engineering, mathematics, computing etc) they are not most powerful, not anymore from a military perspective and certainly not from a scientific perspective. Everyone post Halo 3 is in a state, no one has any power. Also, with respect to Humanity. 200 million cannot be all there is left. The Bestiarum describes Earth with a population of 200 million, and we know for a fact that at least one colony has survived, ''Minister''. The ''Encyclopaedia'' also makes references to secession beginning in the remaining colonies. Unless these colonies are empty, and the UNSC is at odds with empty buildings, I cannot see how 200 million applies to all of Humanity. I do not disagree with Sangheili saving Humanity though, just the part about them having the most power. --[[User talk:Anton1792|Anton1792]] 16:36, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion since some separatists brutes had been killed but for their own kind as they were considered traitors to the Covenant. Once I put it but someone deleted it. Not as you think.[[User:H A L O Legend|H A L O Legend]]

It's possible, but not confirmed, and unlikely.--[[User talk:GEARS OF WAR 2|Unreal Admin]] 00:53, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Most of the Grunts and Hunters sided with the Seperatists.  Some remained with the Loyalists out of fear, conscription vs execution, or loyalty (in the case of the Ungoy deacons) or whatever reasons come to light.  But the fact remains that the three species that rebelled against the Prophets and their 3 Loyalist client races were the Elites, Grunts, and Hunters.  Most of them, en masse.  Not just "some."

::According to Bungie, the only reason you never see Grunts and Hunters on the humans side was because they were afraid to confuse the players, and that allied Grunts and Hunters simply fought elsewhere.

So, for a while now some people have had some issues with the faction image being the Fleet of Retribution. However, I think that the image to the right could serve as a replacement. It primarily shows the Elites, but it also has Locke, which shows that unlike other Covenant remnants, it works with the UNSC. So, what do people think? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] ([[User talk:SFH|talk]]) 23:10, 13 November 2014 (EST)

:You make a pretty valid point. I'd be up for it.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 02:09, 14 November 2014 (EST)

A bit too late but nevertheless, I think it's appropriate for me to give a comment. The image in question, while seemingly suitable, shouldn't be used as the introductory image because, in my opinion, readers might interpret that the Spartans in the image is part of the faction. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  06:31, 15 November 2014 (EST)

::::Yeah that one seems fine to me.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 18:52, 15 November 2014 (EST)

== Swords of Sanghelios in Halo 2 ==