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==Possible Reversal of Opinion== | ==Possible Reversal of Opinion== | ||
File:Halo_3_Ultra_Grunts.jpg|200px]] | |||
After seeing page 131 in my Halo 3 walkthrough book, and seeing a picture and talk of Ultra Grunts, I decided to go on the hunt for them myself, because I am not above changing my opinion based on new evidence. After a long time of searching on various different gametypes and with certain skulls activated, I managed to get a shot of what I believe to be two of those elusive Ultra Grunts. | After seeing page 131 in my Halo 3 walkthrough book, and seeing a picture and talk of Ultra Grunts, I decided to go on the hunt for them myself, because I am not above changing my opinion based on new evidence. After a long time of searching on various different gametypes and with certain skulls activated, I managed to get a shot of what I believe to be two of those elusive Ultra Grunts. | ||
I will not fully believe this until we find a clear shot of Spec Ops grunts to, but this is worrisome because it proves that the Bungie.net guide can be wrong if this is right: | I will not fully believe this until we find a clear shot of Spec Ops grunts to, but this is worrisome because it proves that the Bungie.net guide can be wrong if this is right: | ||
That is a very convincing image if I do say so myself, though they seem to have a slightly pinkish, duller hue compared to the frosty silver of the Halo 2 ultra grunts, but I am not fully convinced until we find a clear picture of a spec ops grunt. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 23:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | That is a very convincing image if I do say so myself, though they seem to have a slightly pinkish, duller hue compared to the frosty silver of the Halo 2 ultra grunts, but I am not fully convinced until we find a clear picture of a spec ops grunt. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 23:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
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==Name of Article== | ==Name of Article== | ||
In all sources that I have seen, including the walkthrough, Grunts are reffered to with their title last, unlike Elites. For example "Grunt Ultra" rather then "Ultra Grunt", as per page 131 of the guide. I think we need to look into this. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 23:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | In all sources that I have seen, including the walkthrough, Grunts are reffered to with their title last, unlike Elites. For example "Grunt Ultra" rather then "Ultra Grunt", as per page 131 of the guide. I think we need to look into this. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 23:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
==Ultra Grunts are not in Halo 3, do not edit that== | ==Ultra Grunts are not in Halo 3, do not edit that== | ||
File: White_grunt.jpg|200px]] | |||
Image: Ultra_Grunt_Halo_3_ZUR.JPG|200px | |||
All evidence and my personal experience points to that. If you would like to post a (clear) screenshot of one in Halo 3, I will retract this statement and eat a boot on youtube. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 04:34, 6 October 2007 (UTC) | All evidence and my personal experience points to that. If you would like to post a (clear) screenshot of one in Halo 3, I will retract this statement and eat a boot on youtube. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 04:34, 6 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
So yeah, about that boot eating thing....when will you do it? and haha! [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 17:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC) | So yeah, about that boot eating thing....when will you do it? and haha! [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 17:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Look at the main screenshot, not the smaller weirder lighter one with the weird pose. The above picture is an Ultra Grunt. --<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="GPT does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> <b>[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">GPT</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">eating</font>]])</sup></b> 00:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | Look at the main screenshot, not the smaller weirder lighter one with the weird pose. The above picture is an Ultra Grunt. --<span style="font-weight: bold;" title="GPT does not work for Wikia">NOTASTAFF</span> <b>[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">GPT</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="000000">eating</font>]])</sup></b> 00:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
:How can anyone tell? [[Special Operations Grunt]] and [[Ultra Grunt]] look virtually the same. Besides, why is it a big deal if they're in Halo 3 or not? They still suck and are easy to kill with one shot from carbine or BR. --'''''[[User:Squishy Vic|Squishy Vic]]''''' | :How can anyone tell? [[Special Operations Grunt]] and [[Ultra Grunt]] look virtually the same. Besides, why is it a big deal if they're in Halo 3 or not? They still suck and are easy to kill with one shot from carbine or BR. --'''''[[User:Squishy Vic|Squishy Vic]]'''''File:Legendary.jpg|25px]]<sup><small>([[User_talk:Squishy Vic|'''''talk''''']])</small></sup> 00:43, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
That is true... but i appear to be mistaken. I apologize for the trouble I've caused...[[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 00:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | That is true... but i appear to be mistaken. I apologize for the trouble I've caused...[[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 00:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Look here, http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsCampaignHalo3.aspx?gameid=17778915. It shows the same looking Grunt and says it's SpecOps.. --<b>[[User:ChurchReborn|<font color="Red">C</font>]][[user talk:ChurchReborn|<font color="black">R</font>]]</b> | Look here, http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStatsCampaignHalo3.aspx?gameid=17778915. It shows the same looking Grunt and says it's SpecOps.. --<b>[[User:ChurchReborn|<font color="Red">C</font>]][[user talk:ChurchReborn|<font color="black">R</font>]]</b> | ||
Yup. I just looked on my game history (for Campaign) on one of the Legendary levels and those grunts (that look like Ultra Grunts) are Special Operations Grunts. Therefore, they aren't in Halo 3. --'''''[[User:Squishy Vic|Squishy Vic]]''''' | Yup. I just looked on my game history (for Campaign) on one of the Legendary levels and those grunts (that look like Ultra Grunts) are Special Operations Grunts. Therefore, they aren't in Halo 3. --'''''[[User:Squishy Vic|Squishy Vic]]'''''File:Legendary.jpg|25px]]<sup><small>([[User_talk:Squishy Vic|'''''talk''''']])</small></sup> 01:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
And so, that picture up there is wrong... or ultra grunts don't exist at all... [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 02:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | And so, that picture up there is wrong... or ultra grunts don't exist at all... [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 02:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Thats what I thought! [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 01:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | Thats what I thought! [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 01:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
Go eat a boot! [[User:Zuranamee|Zuranamee]] 08:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | Go eat a boot! [[User:Zuranamee|Zuranamee]] 08:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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The very first picture is very obviously a spec ops grunt. That second picture is far too shitty to be able to tell anything. Pull up your campaign scoring from bungie and show me where it says you've killed an Ultra Grunt and I'll believe that shitty pic may be an ultra grunt. Though with that lighting and shitty quality it easily looks like a Spec Ops grunt. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 06:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | The very first picture is very obviously a spec ops grunt. That second picture is far too shitty to be able to tell anything. Pull up your campaign scoring from bungie and show me where it says you've killed an Ultra Grunt and I'll believe that shitty pic may be an ultra grunt. Though with that lighting and shitty quality it easily looks like a Spec Ops grunt. --[[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 06:54, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
Oh man thats white f*cking white, do you want more proofs?? It cant be. You are pissing everyone here. [[User:Clavix2|<font color="Black">Clavix2</font>]] | Oh man thats white f*cking white, do you want more proofs?? It cant be. You are pissing everyone here. [[User:Clavix2|<font color="Black">Clavix2</font>]] File:Halo2emblemClavix.jpg|30px]] <sup> [[User talk:Clavix2|<font color="Red">I WILL PAY FOR </font>]]</sup> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Clavix2|<font color="Black"> ALL MY SINS </font>]]</sup> 06:59, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
Clavix: The campaign scoring doesn't lie... oh yeah, that pictue on the Grunt Ultra Page; looks just like a spec-ops grunt... maybe a spec-ops commander grunt? [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 02:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | Clavix: The campaign scoring doesn't lie... oh yeah, that pictue on the Grunt Ultra Page; looks just like a spec-ops grunt... maybe a spec-ops commander grunt? [[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 02:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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SPARTAN 456 | SPARTAN 456 | ||
Dudes, they're everywherere. Especially if you put the thunderstorm skull on. They are the rarest grunt, but they do appear. I'm surprised most of you haven't seen them.--[[User talk:LordGame|LordGame]] 21:59, December 12, 2009 (UTC) | |||
==Controverseyz about teh Ultreh Gruntz== | ==Controverseyz about teh Ultreh Gruntz== | ||
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If anyone has an Ultra Unggoy question message me. (I'm a grunt fanatic!) :} | If anyone has an Ultra Unggoy question message me. (I'm a grunt fanatic!) :} | ||
[[User:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: teal">Ultra Grunt Mewai</span></b>]] | [[User:Spartan 387|<b><span style="color: teal">Ultra Grunt Mewai</span></b>]] File:Gruntiness.jpeg|20px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan 387|Comm]]</sup> 02:18, 17 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Halo Three Presence/Absence == | == Halo Three Presence/Absence == | ||
Okay, since the only proof of the Ultra's presence in Halo 3 are the images which have been provided, which are Specops, I'm going to remove the section describing the "controversy." -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] | Okay, since the only proof of the Ultra's presence in Halo 3 are the images which have been provided, which are Specops, I'm going to remove the section describing the "controversy." -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] | ||
*I'd just like to note that I disagree with this decision - HaloRocks! provided a convincing argument with evidence (the official strategy guide), but those who take the opposing view have also provided compelling arguments. I think the sheer amount of controversy here should be noted somewhere on the main page, because this is the second biggest fan divide I have ever seen. [[Special:Contributions/86.150.131.39|86.150.131.39]] 21:49, December 12, 2009 (UTC) | *I'd just like to note that I disagree with this decision - HaloRocks! provided a convincing argument with evidence (the official strategy guide), but those who take the opposing view have also provided compelling arguments. I think the sheer amount of controversy here should be noted somewhere on the main page, because this is the second biggest fan divide I have ever seen. [[Special:Contributions/86.150.131.39|86.150.131.39]] 21:49, December 12, 2009 (UTC)(P.S Is the above text - or this text - in bold to anyone else? I'm puzzled as to why.) | ||
(P.S Is the above text - or this text - in bold to anyone else? I'm puzzled as to why.) | |||
[[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[ | [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 06:50, September 2, 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Stealth Grunt? == | == Stealth Grunt? == | ||
wasn't there a stealth grunt, or was it just exclusive to the toys section? =)[[User talk:Sclera1|Sclera1]] 01:47, September 6, 2009 (UTC) | wasn't there a stealth grunt, or was it just exclusive to the toys section? =)[[User talk:Sclera1|Sclera1]] 01:47, September 6, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:That is a [[Special Operations Unggoy]].[[User talk:Spartan 112|112]] 21:54, December 12, 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Why Don't You Have This Picture for the Grunt Ultra's? == | |||
[[File:Halo_Reach_-_Unggoy.png|200px]] | |||
I'm a new member, but I have been going to this website for a little while now. Greetings set aside, I have this question: Why don't you have the below picture as the Grunt Ultra's main pic? Through the process of elimination, I strongly believe that this is a Grunt Ultra. The Minor, Heavy, and Spec Ops have been confirmed and shown. | |||
I also have video proof of this design and color still existing: You can see one at 0:09 in the Reach Firefight Trailer. Also, in this vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6wwZm_Hf9o), you can see a rich red Grunt with the armor that the Spec Ops where. He is at 1:22, being hit by (But surviving) a Ghost. This was a Grunt Major, who's red color is a constant throughout the series. So, it's safe to assume that this is not a Major. | |||
Finally, the Grunt Ultra is the only one that had this White/Pearlish Grey coloring.[[User talk:Missing Mandible|Missing Mandible]] 05:40, June 17, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==background== | |||
the "background" section is confusing and speculative. the purpose of the rank itself shouldn't be unclear at all, the ambiguity appears to be whether the white grunts in first strike are ultras or something else. {{User:Asdf1239/sig}} 00:21, 20 November 2010 (EST) | |||