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The unsc seems to have been made far more advanced in halo wars then in the previous halo trillogy, rail gun tanks, laser firing sparrow hawks and other high tec stuff like criogenic bombs and bombs that can deactivate the enemies powers. I know that the covenant still have the advantage but I wonder why some of these more advanced things could not have occured in the halo reach {{unsigned|Spartan Matt}}
The unsc seems to have been made far more advanced in halo wars then in the previous halo trillogy, rail gun tanks, laser firing sparrow hawks and other high tec stuff like criogenic bombs and bombs that can deactivate the enemies powers. I know that the covenant still have the advantage but I wonder why some of these more advanced things could not have occured in the halo reach {{unsigned|Spartan Matt}}


:Firstly, Halo 2, Halo 3, ODST and Reach do still have Gauss 'hogs - which use powerful coilguns. It's a smaller version, but more economical. Secondly, the UNSC have been fighting a war for nearly thirty years by 2552, it's understandable if their economy can't take the strain of producing such sophisticated and technically demanding weapons with the loss of raw resources from the Outer Colonies and sheer depletion, and that they would need to be replaced with more conventional but reliable and cheaper equivalents. And thirdly, some of the weapons in Halo Wars seem a little...impractical. The Cyclops, while bad-ass, was a power loader, and the cryo-bomb seems like something jury-rigged on the battlefield than a standardised technology. I'm sure many of those things still exist in the canon, in fewer numbers - we just don't see them in Reach because of the limited scope. We're focussing on one team, not the entire campaign. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:37, 20 September 2011 (EDT)
:Firstly, Halo 2, Halo 3, ODST and Reach do still have Gauss 'hogs - which use powerful coilguns. It's a smaller version, but more economical. Secondly, the UNSC have been fighting a war for nearly thirty years by 2552, it's understandable if their economy can't take the strain of producing such sophisticated and technically demanding weapons with the loss of raw resources from the Outer Colonies and sheer depletion, and that they would need to be replaced with more conventional but reliable and cheaper equivalents. And thirdly, some of the weapons in Halo Wars seem a little...impractical. The Cyclops, while bad-ass, was a power loader, and the cryo-bomb seems like something jury-rigged on the battlefield than a standardised technology. I'm sure many of those things still exist in the canon, in fewer numbers - we just don't see them in Reach because of the limited scope. We're focussing on one team, not the entire campaign. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:37, 20 September 2011 (EDT)


Thanks for your insights Specops306 yes your right to make a spartan laser costs a fortune and is more costly then 4 fully armed warthogs.  So it would be astronomical to put ship version of the spartan laser cannon on all of the unsc ships. Although it would do better up against covenant shielding because its an energy weapon it would have just been that possble
Thanks for your insights Specops306 yes your right to make a spartan laser costs a fortune and is more costly then 4 fully armed warthogs.  So it would be astronomical to put ship version of the spartan laser cannon on all of the unsc ships. Although it would do better up against covenant shielding because its an energy weapon it would have just been that possble


:UNSC warships don't have a good wartime record against the Covenant, not really because of MAC technology since it's [[:File:Nassau.png|proven]] [[:File:Jorge n' Six.jpg|pretty]] [[:File:HaloReach_-_MACrusher.jpg|effective]], but simply because the Covenant have shields and the UNSC don't. That's the real barrier to levelling the playing field. We see in Reach and Halo 3 that human-made shields are not only becoming more common in service, ie; the drop shield and bubble shield, but are also better, so after the war, fitting ships with shields would be a must. With improved survivability, UNSC ships wouldn't be so outmatched. After that, improved weaponry would be a plus. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:44, 21 September 2011 (EDT)
:UNSC warships don't have a good wartime record against the Covenant, not really because of MAC technology since it's [[:File:Nassau.png|proven]] [[:File:Jorge n' Six.jpg|pretty]] [[:File:HaloReach_-_MACrusher.jpg|effective]], but simply because the Covenant have shields and the UNSC don't. That's the real barrier to levelling the playing field. We see in Reach and Halo 3 that human-made shields are not only becoming more common in service, ie; the drop shield and bubble shield, but are also better, so after the war, fitting ships with shields would be a must. With improved survivability, UNSC ships wouldn't be so outmatched. After that, improved weaponry would be a plus. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:44, 21 September 2011 (EDT)


::I love those mid sentence links to prove a point :) It's one of the few times something writen says more that something spoken, if that makes sense to you guys. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:55, 21 September 2011 (EDT)
::I love those mid sentence links to prove a point :) It's one of the few times something writen says more that something spoken, if that makes sense to you guys. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:55, 21 September 2011 (EDT)


:::Sometimes I worry it just looks obnoxious, which is the opposite of my intent. It's not too much? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 08:49, 21 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Sometimes I worry it just looks obnoxious, which is the opposite of my intent. It's not too much? -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 08:49, 21 September 2011 (EDT)


::::People keep track of pages, not what specific users post, so even if every one of your posts did that, you'd probably be the only one who found it obnoxious. Well, maybe if it literally was EVERY one, but you get my point, but I don't see it nearly enough to get sick of it :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:41, 21 September 2011 (EDT)
::::People keep track of pages, not what specific users post, so even if every one of your posts did that, you'd probably be the only one who found it obnoxious. Well, maybe if it literally was EVERY one, but you get my point, but I don't see it nearly enough to get sick of it :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 19:41, 21 September 2011 (EDT)