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==Deletion?== | ==Deletion?== | ||
:On August 9, [[User:RelentlessRogue|RelentlessRogue]] nominated the ilovebees pages for deletion, saying: ''"I Love Bees" is fan fiction, and all related aticles are being deleted. For why, see | :On August 9, [[User:RelentlessRogue|RelentlessRogue]] nominated the ilovebees pages for deletion, saying: ''"I Love Bees" is fan fiction, and all related aticles are being deleted. For why, see Halopedia: Standards.'' The final descision was to keep the articles. The discussion of the nomination is below: | ||
*'''Keep''' I do not believe ILB should be considered on the same order as fanfiction; [[4orty2wo]] was hired by Microsoft to write it, and then Bungie looked it over. Although it may be not accepted by Bungie as offical canon, this is not just something posted on fanfiction.net. ILB was a massive campaign to promote Halo 2 publicity, therefore it has relevence in this wiki. Recent interviews say that while Bungie is a fan of Nylund's novels, they were going to rewrite the story of how Johnson escaped from the Flood in the graphic novel; does this mean that First Strike should also be considered fanfiction and removed from Halopedia? Also, the ''Dead or Alive'' crossover makes direct references to the ILB plotline, as well as a page in the gallery of the graphic novel. Whether or not these offshoots may be considered official canon, I believe that because Bungie was officially involved in the development, they have relevence here. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 09:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' I do not believe ILB should be considered on the same order as fanfiction; [[4orty2wo]] was hired by Microsoft to write it, and then Bungie looked it over. Although it may be not accepted by Bungie as offical canon, this is not just something posted on fanfiction.net. ILB was a massive campaign to promote Halo 2 publicity, therefore it has relevence in this wiki. Recent interviews say that while Bungie is a fan of Nylund's novels, they were going to rewrite the story of how Johnson escaped from the Flood in the graphic novel; does this mean that First Strike should also be considered fanfiction and removed from Halopedia? Also, the ''Dead or Alive'' crossover makes direct references to the ILB plotline, as well as a page in the gallery of the graphic novel. Whether or not these offshoots may be considered official canon, I believe that because Bungie was officially involved in the development, they have relevence here. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 09:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC) | ||
*'''Keep''' I agree with Dragonclaws. Although I have not researched ILB in great detail, it has been stated that it was a Microsoft/Bungie sponsered production designed to promote Halo 2, similar to how the Cortana letters promoted Halo: CE. The deletion of ALL ILB content would be a mistake. --[[User:CrzyAznSprtn|CrzyAznSprtn]] 13:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' I agree with Dragonclaws. Although I have not researched ILB in great detail, it has been stated that it was a Microsoft/Bungie sponsered production designed to promote Halo 2, similar to how the Cortana letters promoted Halo: CE. The deletion of ALL ILB content would be a mistake. --[[User:CrzyAznSprtn|CrzyAznSprtn]] 13:06, 10 August 2006 (UTC) | ||
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==Hurricane== | ==Hurricane== | ||
:Lulz "Dude, it's a hurricane. Put the phone down" xD | :Lulz "Dude, it's a hurricane. Put the phone down" xD | ||
== Cleanup == | |||
A request for cleanup, eh? Could anyone give me some pointers as to what exactly needs to be cleaned up? Thanks. [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 11:05, 22 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Well, personally I'm not sure it adequately explains the subject. Some of the background stuff seems more like it describes the mechanics of the game rather than what it basically was. It's a very complex subject and hard to describe thoroughly. This is probably the issue. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 19:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
== I love Bees is now Officially NOT CANON == | |||
I reference this interview with Joe Staten: http://halostory.bungie.org/staten102204.html | |||
"HSP: If you were to define what is and isn't Halo story canon, would the I Love Bees stuff make the cut? | |||
JS: The Bees would not make the cut. | |||
Those guys basically did their own thing with very little Bungie input (save for massaging and approving the initial plot-treatment). While we helped define the boundaries of their fiction, we let them do what they thought best. And I think the game turned out great." | |||
As far as keeping it in Halopedia, we should most certainly clearly mark I Love Bees articles with the disclaimer that information contained is Not Canon. | |||
[[User talk:TailSpin|TailSpin]] 21:11, 19 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Now? That's an old interview. It is noted in the Canon? section of this article, as well as a later quote from Frank O'Connor that it is being "embraced as canon". --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 22:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
What purpose did i love bees ever serve for the Halo canon? It doesn't seem to bear much, if any relevance at all to the series. I don't know a great deal about it, but I think it's very out of place in the Halo context.[[Special:Contributions/76.119.65.146|76.119.65.146]] 08:29, April 25, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:It's a sidestory initially created to not be canon. It was, however, officially produced, canon or no. The Dead or Alive crossover, also not canon, seems to exist in the same universe. Now certain little parts of the story are being "embraced as canon". Optican, of Halo 3: ODST, was first mentioned in i love bees, for instance. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 08:49, April 25, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Exactly. Just look at the Halo Encyclopedia. As flawed as it is, it very intentionally includes numerous elements from i love bees.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]][[User talk:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:red;">''' - '''</span>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' 112 '''</span>]] 16:37, April 25, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Countdown change? == | |||
according to this article | |||
http://www.vg247.com/2011/06/29/us-cities-play-host-to-suspected-halo-4-ar-game/ | |||
the countdown changed, but it's still the same for me. {{Unsigned|ArchedThunder}} | |||
:That's weird, remember to sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> please. [[User:Halofan1234|PRESIDENT]][[User talk:Halofan1234|1234]] 19:29, 4 July 2011 (EDT) | |||
== Confirmed canon == | |||
Frankie has confirmed its place in canon, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPeMxbvCjYo&feature=channel_video_title That video has a few interesting pieces of info including the confirmation--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 01:03, 27 November 2011 (EST) | |||
:[[#I_love_Bees_is_now_Officially_NOT_CANON|Refer to this discussion]]. The basic rundown is that some of it is canon, some of it is not. Frankie was most likely referring to the ones that don't contradict others.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 06:41, 27 November 2011 (EST) | |||
==Image== | |||
I'm starting to doubt the veracity of the image of kids at a payphone as depicting ILB players engaged in the ARG. It comes from a brief news video covering ILB that I believe was originally aired on G4. I'm starting to wonder if those kids were actually players or just the news crew's kids, called over to a payphone to get a shot. It's not like news shows don't do that kind of thing to create B-roll where none exists. ILB was a really dense game involving actual footwork to make it to payphones listed as GPS coordinates. While there are certainly younger kids (what are they, ten to twelve?) who are capable of that, it seems like the vast majority of ILB players were adults, and those seem like the ones who would be scouting out the payphones. Notably, Wikipedia's ILB page shows adults crowded around a payphone. What's everyone's thoughts on this? --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#800080">Dragon<font color="#DE397E">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#6600D8">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 18:37, 31 January 2015 (EST) | |||
:Agreed. The Wikipedia image is verified as being of ILB players. Beyond that, as you said, it's also more representative of the average ILB player. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:04, 31 January 2015 (EST) | |||