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To me, it seems like a simple mistake by the one who wrote the subtitles. It could be that Frankie's being secretive about it because he doesn't want to admit the mistake and tries to find a way to somehow work it into the canon. Right now, I can't think of any other explanation than Thel having a bizarre memory loss. Or that it's a different Thel. So, does anyone have any objections against splitting this and calling the Package Major article "Thel (The Package)"? The only thing we would lose is knowing what year the Package takes place. The truth is, we don't really know it for certain now either. Even if the major was Thel 'Vadam, he could've been demoted later, which is extremely unlikely considering his fanatical adherence to honor codes, and the fact he would've most likely killed himself for it. But it's a remote possibility. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 14:04, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
To me, it seems like a simple mistake by the one who wrote the subtitles. It could be that Frankie's being secretive about it because he doesn't want to admit the mistake and tries to find a way to somehow work it into the canon. Right now, I can't think of any other explanation than Thel having a bizarre memory loss. Or that it's a different Thel. So, does anyone have any objections against splitting this and calling the Package Major article "Thel (The Package)"? The only thing we would lose is knowing what year the Package takes place. The truth is, we don't really know it for certain now either. Even if the major was Thel 'Vadam, he could've been demoted later, which is extremely unlikely considering his fanatical adherence to honor codes, and the fact he would've most likely killed himself for it. But it's a remote possibility. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 14:04, April 19, 2010 (UTC)


:I think we should make a new article called '''Thel (The Package)'''. But I think that we should let some people give there thoughts of it aswell. -->[[File:Gunnery_Sergeant.png|25px]] [[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">'''Master'''</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">'''Chief'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">'''Petty'''</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">'''Officer'''</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">'''John-117'''</span>]] <sup>'''([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Personal Favorite</span>]])'''</sup>. 17:25, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
:I think we should make a new article called '''Thel (The Package)'''. But I think that we should let some people give there thoughts of it aswell. --> [[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">'''Master'''</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">'''Chief'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">'''Petty'''</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">'''Officer'''</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">'''John-117'''</span>]] <sup>'''([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Personal Favorite</span>]])'''</sup>. 17:25, April 20, 2010 (UTC)


:One of the sources shown that the Major is Thel 'Vadam and that it was stated somewhere in the DVD commentary; whether this is confirmed or just a false source, I don't know. Could someone confirm this again? If it really has been affirmed that the Major is indeed Thel 'Vadam, then I'm afraid we should not create a new article about '''Thel (The Package)'''. Again, it could be what Jugus've stated (Frankie not admitting the mistakes and trying to find a way into the canon) and that Thel's first experience with a Spartan has been retconned by 343 Industries. Retcon is quite common nowadays.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 17:31, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
:One of the sources shown that the Major is Thel 'Vadam and that it was stated somewhere in the DVD commentary; whether this is confirmed or just a false source, I don't know. Could someone confirm this again? If it really has been affirmed that the Major is indeed Thel 'Vadam, then I'm afraid we should not create a new article about '''Thel (The Package)'''. Again, it could be what Jugus've stated (Frankie not admitting the mistakes and trying to find a way into the canon) and that Thel's first experience with a Spartan has been retconned by 343 Industries. Retcon is quite common nowadays.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 17:31, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
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#He is just called ''Thel'' so why should it be ''Thel'' from TCP and Halo 2, 3.
#He is just called ''Thel'' so why should it be ''Thel'' from TCP and Halo 2, 3.


#If he is ''Thel 'Vadamee'' then this should take place before TCP but then again when he fought ''Jai-006'' he acted like he had never seen a Spartan before. -->[[File:Gunnery_Sergeant.png|25px]] [[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">'''Master'''</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">'''Chief'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">'''Petty'''</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">'''Officer'''</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">'''John-117'''</span>]] <sup>'''([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Personal Favorite</span>]])'''</sup>. 18:51, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
#If he is ''Thel 'Vadamee'' then this should take place before TCP but then again when he fought ''Jai-006'' he acted like he had never seen a Spartan before. --> [[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">'''Master'''</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">'''Chief'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">'''Petty'''</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">'''Officer'''</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">'''John-117'''</span>]] <sup>'''([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Personal Favorite</span>]])'''</sup>. 18:51, April 20, 2010 (UTC)


::Cally, please be more constructive when contributing to discussions. No offense.
::Cally, please be more constructive when contributing to discussions. No offense.
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===Voting===
===Voting===
*{{Support}} - Per Jugus and... lol everyone . -->[[File:Gunnery_Sergeant.png|25px]] [[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">'''Master'''</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">'''Chief'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">'''Petty'''</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">'''Officer'''</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">'''John-117'''</span>]] <sup>'''([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Personal Favorite</span>]])'''</sup>. 18:51, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
*{{Support}} - Per Jugus and... lol everyone . --> [[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">'''Master'''</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">'''Chief'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">'''Petty'''</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">'''Officer'''</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">'''John-117'''</span>]] <sup>'''([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Personal Favorite</span>]])'''</sup>. 18:51, April 20, 2010 (UTC)


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