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| Is there any prof that the Pilots seen in Halo 3 are Marines they may be Navy pilots instead. | | Is there any prof that the Pilots seen in Halo 3 are Marines they may be Navy pilots instead. |
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| *In Halo 2, it resembles the Russian Flora pattern; | | *In Halo 2, it resembles the Russian Flora pattern; |
| *And in Halo 3, it appears to be based off of the British 2 colour-Desert DPM pattern. [[User talk:Nohomers48|Nohomers48]] 11:41, May 16, 2010 (UTC) | | *And in Halo 3, it appears to be based off of the British 2 colour-Desert DPM pattern. [[User talk:Nohomers48|Nohomers48]] 11:41, May 16, 2010 (UTC) |
| :Update: Halo Reach's Army and Marine BDUs use camo patterns similar to Multicam, Russian KLMK and TTSkO series patterns .Halo 4's Marine and Army forces don't wear any camouflage patterned BDU, just the multi-coloured fatigues.– '''''Lt.'' [[User:Nohomers48|Nohomers48]] <small>([[User talk:Nohomers48|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nohomers48|contribs]] • UserWiki:Nohomers48|wiki]])</small>''' 03:43, 13 November 2012 (EST) | | :Update: Halo Reach's Army and Marine BDUs use camo patterns similar to Multicam, Russian KLMK and TTSkO series patterns .Halo 4's Marine and Army forces don't wear any camouflage patterned BDU, just the multi-coloured fatigues.– [[Image:Lieutenant Grade One.png|20px]] '''''[[Help:User Levels|Lt.]]'' [[User:Nohomers48|Nohomers48]] <small>([[User talk:Nohomers48|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nohomers48|contribs]] • [[UserWiki:Nohomers48|wiki]])</small>''' 03:43, 13 November 2012 (EST) |
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| == White coloration == | | == White coloration == |
| Who in their right mind would make Marine BDUs WHITE? Tex the Spartan | | Who in their right mind would make Marine BDUs WHITE? Tex the Spartan |
| :Because fashion. How would we know what was going through the minds of Marine uniform board members or 343i artists? {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | | :Because fashion. How would we know what was going through the minds of Marine uniform board members or 343i artists? {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} |
| ::Arctic warfare? Considering the nuclear winter that glassing seems to create, I would think it would be a huge stable of the Marine arsenal while fighting on these colonies. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:36, 22 March 2013 (EDT) | | ::Arctic warfare? Considering the nuclear winter that glassing seems to create, I would think it would be a huge stable of the Marine arsenal while fighting on these colonies. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:36, 22 March 2013 (EDT) |
| :::Still, white for the MAIN variant? Also, the only time they tried to retake a glassed world was Harvest. Also, it's not like humanitys fighting on glassed colonies anymore, and the UNSC seems to have modernized its infantry considerably. Making the uniforms white would only make troops a better target. | | :::Still, white for the MAIN variant? Also, the only time they tried to retake a glassed world was Harvest. Also, it's not like humanitys fighting on glassed colonies anymore, and the UNSC seems to have modernized its infantry considerably. Making the uniforms white would only make troops a better target. |
| ::::How do we know that the Marines seen on Infinity are representative of all UNSC Marines as of 2557-onwards? We already know that at least a few units were issued with the Insurrection-Era model (which considering H2A I actually see as more of a visual update of M52B) because of Spartan Strike. It's very likely that the Infinity Marine and Army contingents are trialing new prototype BDU's. Besides, in the completely white, spacially restricted interior of Infinity, the lightly-armored white BDU we see in Spartan Ops cutscenes (which you guys seem to assume is the new standard model) makes complete sense. --[[User:Grim Looters|Grim Looters]] ([[User talk:Grim Looters|talk]]) 19:12, 28 February 2016 (EST)
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| == There is no such thing as the "Insurrection era BDU" == | | == There is no such thing as the "Insurrection era BDU" == |
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| Now, the Halo Wars design may live on if that design has in fact overridden the classic Halo 2/Halo 3 designs (which is why I believe the BDU appears in Spartan Strike), but that's neither here nor there. --[[User:AlphaBenson|AlphaBenson]] ([[User talk:AlphaBenson|talk]]) 17:44, 16 July 2015 (EDT) | | Now, the Halo Wars design may live on if that design has in fact overridden the classic Halo 2/Halo 3 designs (which is why I believe the BDU appears in Spartan Strike), but that's neither here nor there. --[[User:AlphaBenson|AlphaBenson]] ([[User talk:AlphaBenson|talk]]) 17:44, 16 July 2015 (EDT) |
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| :The problem is that what overrides what is all up to interpretation. Sure, "Insurrection era BDU" is probably an inaccurate label (the only "accurate" way to list the variants would be to do it by game/work), but it's hard for us to say a design overrides another without veering into fan fiction. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:42, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
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| ::Unless there's some official word that the two models are canonically the same, there's no reason to think they are. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our answer is at hand.'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 17:55, 17 July 2015 (EDT)
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| ::: And yet, this is something we've always done. Whenever two things have been very similar in appearance to each other, we have generally assumed them to be the same entity, until stated otherwise. For example, the Sangheili have been given several different designs as the series has gone on, and yet, we have never acted like each Sangheili design was a subspecies or variant, or anything of that sort. The ONLY reason why we treat the Halo 4 Jackals as a subspecies is because it has been stated that they are, in fact, a sub species. Prior to that, Halopedia had the Halo 4 Jackal as the Kig-Yar's article picture, obviously suggesting that Halopedia believed that the new Kig-Yar design was a retcon. And I'm sure no one here actually believes that the H2A Campaign SMG is a completely different model than the H2A Multiplayer SMG. --[[User:AlphaBenson|AlphaBenson]] ([[User talk:AlphaBenson|talk]]) 18:38, 29 July 2015 (EDT)
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| Interestingly, considering the visual developments of Halo 2 Anniversary, if anything the 'Insurrection Era' model actually seems to be a visual update of the M52B body armor previously seen in the original versions of Halo 2 and Halo 3, thought I guess we'd need to see Marines in a Halo 3 Anniversary game before we knew for sure.--[[User:Grim Looters|Grim Looters]] ([[User talk:Grim Looters|talk]]) 19:06, 28 February 2016 (EST)
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| == This Page is in Need of Minor Overhaul... ==
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| Look, I don't know who came up with the idea of the four different BDU's, but they were on the right track. But I personally think it needs to be more flexible. The following are just a few little ideas that have been niggling at me since Halo 2 Anniversary was released.
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| Firstly, I think it's very likely that what we're calling the 'Insurrection-Era' BDU is actually a visual update on the M52B BDU from Halo 2 and Halo 3. Up until now, we assumed that the Marines in Halo 2 were wearing a low-detail version of the M52B, but now they're suddenly wearing a variant of the armor that would have been considered out of date in H2A? Not likely. I'm not saying a major change needs to be made, but I think the article could do with some restructuring following the visual updates of the Anniversary games. I guess we'll just have to wait until Halo 3 Anniversary (if it happens) to know for sure.
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| Secondly, I disagree with referring to the BDU seen in Reach and CE as the 'Cross-branch BDU'. I mean, all we know for sure about it is that it's the BDU primarily used by the UNSC Army. Wouldn't it make sense to simply make note of the fact that the UNSC Marine Corps makes use of the Army's BDU on certain occasions, likely because of logistical ease.
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| Anyway, that's all I got. Just some suggestions. --[[User:Grim Looters|Grim Looters]] ([[User talk:Grim Looters|talk]]) 19:46, 28 February 2016 (EST)
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