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:Much like history, honor is often a product of the winning side. Just take a look at feudal Japanese history & you'll see that it's littered with instances that would be deemed dishonorable by the average armchair samurai, but were written into the history books as "shrewd" or "tactically brilliant"... Likewise, many instances that were labelled as being supremely honorable were viewed by many contemporaries of the day as simple vengeance or organized thuggery... I've always wondered how a Sangheili who uses active camo in combat could be considered honorable... My guess is that it's their version of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" or, as it was in feudal Japan, the codified system of honor is a political tool used to rigidly enforce the social heirarchy of Sangheili society... In a peace-time setting, it clearly delineates the roles of its members & the acceptable norms of behavior. However, like most societal norms, it can often be obscured by the fog of war... Remember, the first casualty of any engagement is the battle plan... followed quickly by civilized behavior... - [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 16:10, 4 February 2013 (EST) | :Much like history, honor is often a product of the winning side. Just take a look at feudal Japanese history & you'll see that it's littered with instances that would be deemed dishonorable by the average armchair samurai, but were written into the history books as "shrewd" or "tactically brilliant"... Likewise, many instances that were labelled as being supremely honorable were viewed by many contemporaries of the day as simple vengeance or organized thuggery... I've always wondered how a Sangheili who uses active camo in combat could be considered honorable... My guess is that it's their version of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" or, as it was in feudal Japan, the codified system of honor is a political tool used to rigidly enforce the social heirarchy of Sangheili society... In a peace-time setting, it clearly delineates the roles of its members & the acceptable norms of behavior. However, like most societal norms, it can often be obscured by the fog of war... Remember, the first casualty of any engagement is the battle plan... followed quickly by civilized behavior... - [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 16:10, 4 February 2013 (EST) | ||
I do agree that the elite retconning is annoying, but the degredation of honor follows the books if you think of 'Mdama as setting the example for hes faction. In ''The Thursday War'' we see him increasingly learning to use human tactics (take lying as an oversimplification) in order to escape Onyx. It's not a big leap from there to accepting that humans may have some superior ground weapons that he should use, such as nukes. As for the "terrorist" I think that that word is probably used a little strongly. And if it is not, that is most likely because 'Mdama needs every Sangheili he can use. and if that terrorist, I forget his name, had a large stash of weapons/materials in his keep, then that would make him all the more valuable to 'Mdama, and, as long as he keeps fighting humans, all the more useful as a leader. As for them unleashing swords, the only explanation that I can think of is that 'Mdama attracts the wrong crowd. And lets remember that this is over 2 decades after the Cole Protocol, so things might have changed. These are all just excuses though, I'm right there with you on how annoying this is.--[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 19:20, 4 February 2013 (EST) | |||