Talk:Sangheili: Difference between revisions

:Well they most likely age at a different rate, Jul is probably in what would be a human's 30s, is what I would guess. [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 17:49, 20 September 2013 (EDT)

Sangheili are colourblind. They cannot see purple. The entire time they thought that they were using blue. Their visual spectrum ranges from Blue to the infrabrown range. Therefore it can be assumed that they do not have a word for purple and instead they use other species' words to describe colours in the purple region that they cannot see. Josh Holmes and Frankie conformed that on Twitter. Check my Twitter for the source because I cannot link you since I am on mobile phone. My account is: @TheMasterBuild1 {{Unsigned|‎The Master Builder}}

Nobody said that they are dichromats, only that they see our purple as blue. We should ask Frankie for clarification. About infra brown; brown is made of black,yellow and red and covers many wavelengths. We should state only that Sangheili see purple as blue. {{Unsigned|‎The Master Builder}}

:Considering the source linked sounds entirely like a joke at Mr. O'Connor's expense, I would err on the side of doubt until we get a more official source for it. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue>^{The Autocrat}</font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple>^{of Morheka}</font></i></u>]] 06:59, 22 April 2014 (EDT)

For now we should leave it as it is. What we can do is bombard 343i on Twitter about the subject. I can get a couple of Archivers to assist.{{Unsigned|‎The Master Builder}}

    I added a template tag for "Verify_Source" as I don't believe there are any merits to including this colour vision issue in the article. The first problem is that due to the tweet no longer being available, it's now very difficult for people to assess the context within which the tweet was made. Was it a serious observation or comment on the canon, or just something made in jest? Looking at the text of the tweet, above, it seems to have been a friendly jibe at Frank O'Conner's expense as opposed to a proper comment on the fiction.

    I think that what Morhek said here years ago was the most sensible course of action - hold out until a more reliable source comes up. A more reliable source is needed in my opinion because this out-of-context tweet is actually challenging years of established canon regarding what colours we have seen Sangheili characters comment on. Throughout canon (both new and old) there are several references to Sangheili commenting on red colours as well as blues, which means that the article is wrong in claiming that Sangheili lack an analogue for the L-cone receptor. The ability for them to distinguish red and blue also challenges the idea that they can't see purple, as purple is composed of blue and red light wavelengths leaving a material's surface and both being detected by the eye. The argument that they are merely using other species' names for red doesn't make sense, as they would be unable to distinguish red materials (from a human point of view) in order to know when to use that word. What they would see would either be grey if the material only had red light leaving its surface - or some other colour that they could see if there were other wavelengths of light leaving the surface that they could detect.

    Finally, the word "infrabrown" - as far as I can tell it doesn't mean anything. Top google results just reveal discussions about this exact topic on some Halo sites, followed by a deluge of social media handles. Infra means "before", so "Infrared" for example only makes sense because red is on the EM spectrum of wavelength where we can apply concepts such as "before" and "after" with reference to another wavelength on that spectrum. Brown isn't on the EM spectrum so "infrabrown" makes no sense. There is no "before brown".