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| == In Halo 3 does Master Chief wear Mark VI? == | | I think that It would be best if the [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor#Armor Versions|Armor Versions]] section of this article was organized in a fashion similar to the [[Covenant Empire#Species|Species]] section of the article about The Covenant Empire. An available picture of the armor may be displayed beside the synopsis where applicable. Is this a good suggestion? --<big>[[User:Pikapi|''<font color="teal">Chris</font>]]''</big> [[User_talk:Pikapi|<font color="blue">''talk''</font>]] <font color="blue">''blog''</font> 11:59, 12 January 2011 (EST) |
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| Are we completely sure that the newest pictures of the Chief are in Mark VI? The color looks kind of different...I think we should remove the image because of the possibility that it is Mark VII.--[[User:JohnSpartan117]] [http://installation07.uk.to] 02:00, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
| | :I'm actually working on it. :) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 12:04, 12 January 2011 (EST) |
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| :I think I agree. The newest images of the Chief from H3 are most likely the Mark VII(or whatever the folks at Bungie decide to call the next version;) So we shouldn't presume to know the facts regarding it's designation...even though it's very likely. It's almost definitely not the Mark VI, though. For the same reason we should label any references to the Mark VII armor as speculation, since we don't have factual data on it yet. Keep the images, because they are dynamic, but don't mislead the readers.--[[User:Cu Roi|Cu Roi]] 19:35, 31 December 2006 (UTC) | | ::Scratch that, I thought you meant the Armor Permutation article. :P |
| :Actually, if you look at a zoomed in picture of the new halo 3 hoodie, there is a caption below the MC saying: UNSC Mark VI Mjolnir --Dockman 22:53, 5 January 2007 (UTC) | | ::This article is fine as it is, by the looks of it. Armor Permutation is where the mess is. ;) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 12:07, 12 January 2011 (EST) |
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| What if it is mark vi.2??
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| I wouldn't call it VI or VII yet. Wait until the game is out. Although Bungie is in love with seven.... [[User:65.87.44.196|65.87.44.196]] 10:01, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
| | This is a huge discussion page and most of the information on it is YEARS old. I suggest a clean-up. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 19:36, 6 April 2012 (EDT) |
| ==GoO Spartans had Mark VI Armour!==
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| The article states that John is the only one to have received VI. However, if you look on the cover of GoO, a Spartan wearing VI is in the background.
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| :That's Kurt in the MJOLNIR MARK V armor!--[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 09:49, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
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| who assumes that They were the only ones wearing Mark V? i was always under the assumption that everyone was getting the new armour-Fred swaps damaged parts of his Mark V with someone who had died! why would they be the only ones to have it?
| | Where is it started that Mjolnir itself used fission at any point? Halo: The Fall of Reach states that the Mk. IV introduced in November 2525 used a fusion power pack: |
| | "John glimpsed veinlike microcapillaries, a dense sandwich of optical crystal, a circulating pump, '''even what looked like a miniature fusion cell in the backpack.'''" |
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| :*What in god's name did you just say? [[User:CaptainAdamGraves|CaptainAdamGraves]] 04:12, 6 January 2007 (UTC) | | One of the citations in this article is page 45 of Ghosts of Onyx. All it says is: |
| | "MJOLNIR suit construction, maintenance staff, and '''recent upgrades to their microfusion plants'''" |
| | Never does it say or even hint that the upgrades were from a fission to a fusion power source. |
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| ::*read the article. under the Mark V heading, it has what i'm talking about.
| | Finally, the other citation comes from Halsey's Journal, specifically the Jan. 7, 2535 entry. Under the Mk. IV section, it reads: |
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| :I thought that they got the Mark VI parts from a secret weapons locker deep under the base. [[User:Kerek|Kerek]] 09:11, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
| | Again, at no point does it state that Mjolnir ever used fission power. There's arguably an implication that it did, but the comment in the journal could just as easily be a reference to the power source for the old exoskeletons. In light of this, I think the mention of a fission power source should be removed, as there's no solid evidence for it (unless there's a missing citation somewhere). --[[User:Toa Freak|Toa Freak]] ([[User talk:Toa Freak|talk]]) 19:47, 18 February 2018 (EST) |
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| | :Removed. It's likely that the experimental versions of the MJOLNIR did utilise fission but that was not implemented in the finalised version (as per the comment in the journal). Thanks for checking this up! — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 06:09, 24 February 2018 (EST) |
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| ::I think it's Mark VI Because Halo 2 Takes course over a very, very, very short period of time so I don't think there would be enough time to even make a Mark VII! [[User:Kerek|Kerek]] 09:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC) | | :And lo! ''Silent Storm'' has the Spartans' Mjolnir equipped with fission plants in 2526. --[[User:Tacitus|Tacitus]] ([[User talk:Tacitus|talk]]) 02:53, 28 September 2018 (EDT) |
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| Kurt-051 have received the cut down version of the MJOLNIR armor, it was mentioned in Ghost of Onyx (or did I carelessly misread the article?)--[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 10:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
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| :Kurt has his old MJOLNIR suit, but he chooses to wear his SPI armor instead because he doesn't want to feel separate from his S-III unit. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|talk]])</sup> 23:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
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| No, I am talking about the distribution of the armor, Kurt received one, why his his name not written on the article?--[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 04:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
| | Foreword: I unfortunately do not have the Essentials Visual Guide, nor the Halo Encyclopedia, so I can't double-check these. However I'm quite confused with the dates as listed currently. The Mark III Exoskeleton (the one using experimental power transmission) is introduced first in 2510, then the Cyclops is introduced in 2513 based on this, and ''then'' the Mark I Exoskeleton is initiated in 2515?--[[User:The Ragin Pagan|The Ragin Pagan]] ([[User talk:The Ragin Pagan|talk]]) 15:15, May 30, 2021 (EDT) |
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| On the cover of Halo: Ghosts of Onyx it is Kelly in MJOLNIR Mark V armor because Dr. Halsey kiddnapped her in Halo: First Strike.-- [[User:MCDBBlits|MCDBBlits]] 18:10, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
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| Wasn't it like this?
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| *Fred- Mark VI
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| *Will- Mark VI
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| *Linda- Mark VI
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| *Kelly- Mark V
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| Cuz kelly wouldn't have recieved upgrades, (Dr. Halsey's fault) But Blue Team surely would have. The UNSC would have given Blue Team all the support they could have. Plus I think Kurt only had the Mark IV because it was his origional suit (I think anyway. forgive me if I am wrong) --[[User:Omrifere|Captain Jacob Rathens]] 02:56, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
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| *I think I read somewhere that some of the Spartans upgraded the Mk. V with some of the Mk. VI components like the helmet. I forgot where though. Can someone confirm? [[User:Leonidas-300|Leonidas-300]] 04:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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| Right, this is how i know it: Its not been said who has what armour, however as far as i know only John-117 recieved the Mk. VI because it was far to expensive. Blue team however recieved upgrades, giving them the 'V.5' armour with parts of the VI installed on thier V armour. Kurt did not have Mk. IV armour, he had the SPI Mk. II. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 09:04, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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| Thats what I said, he was wearing SPI Mark II but thae armor in his locker (the one he didn't wear) would have been a Mark IV MJOLNIR armor i think. And why does everyone assume that the Mark VI would be to expensive for the other Spartans to upgrade? the parts the other spartans got on Reach were prototypes. I think. so does anyone have sources on the whole "Mk. VI was to expensive" thing? --[[User:Omrifere|Rear Admiral Jacob Rathens]] 03:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
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| Sorry to bump old discussion but i'd like to nore that cover of GoO is just ART! So all other Spartans probably don't have Mark VI
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| ==Master Chief is NOT wearing Mark VII armor in Halo 3 "Time"==
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| Some believe that the chances of the Master Chief wearing Mjolnir Mark VII armor is impossible, saying that 'there was no chance for him to acquire the armor because the Covenant already had control of Earth.'
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| Indeed, it seems unlikely that John would have the time to acquire such a high tech piece of armor, considering the Covenant had control of most of Earth when he returned aboard the Prophet's ship.
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| Some also believe that small parts of the armor were exchanged for newer, more upgraded parts. And this might lead Bungie to call it 'Mjolnir Mark VII', because of the new parts.
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| Other theories could be the possibility of the armor's color wearing out from countless battles. The green color would slowly dissipate and turn into an olive green, then from that onto an olive green/brown. This might be another reason why the Master Chief's armor appears brownish instead of the normal green.
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| Well, I think that the gloves is slightly different, and the HUD is definetly a big change. There might be a long period after Halo 2, so it appears so [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 05:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
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| Well I think while the Forerunner Ship jumped there was a gap whilte they were in Slipspace so the Chief may have may have Mark VII or Mark 6.5 and there is no evidence that all of Earth is under control because Blue Team has been killing all of them.
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| There is a period between Halo 3, and Master Chief must have gone through a fight without killing himself. if he's using Mark VI he could have died a long time ago. It must be an upgraded one[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 05:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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| The UNSC would not put the mark 6 in production just to turn around as little as a mounth later and put a mark 7 into production, its at best an upgraded mark 6 and as stated in the fall of Reach when the mark 4 was retired it had long lost its color.-- [[User:MCDBBlits|MCDBBlits]] 18:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
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| That's not the point, when Mark VI was produced the world is not at high risk at Covenant invasion, they are not at the point of ruining Earth, but at the end of Halo 2 the Flood, Covenants are boarding Earth, and it seems that might need a better armor for the MC to defend Earth. If he is still wearing the batty old Mark VI than he would have died in the blast in Starry Night Trailer.
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| [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 04:52, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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| Who said Earth is completely Covenant controlled at the start of H3? There could of been time between the Prophet's ship landing and the complete capture of Earth. You just don't know if there was time for a new suit to be made and issued until they release the game. Unless you work at Bungie or something. [[User:Teflon4|Teflon4]] 11:42, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
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| During the Beta we were given access to the "Standard Mjolnir armour" that the Master Chief is wearing during Halo 3. When you clicked down the righ thumb stick you could zoom in about 2X. On either the bottom left of right hand corners of this 'in helmet view' it stated that the suit in use was a Mark VI. Check the beta videos if you need to. But I think that's fairly conclusive proof.
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| Not really. Bungie might of put it in there for you super searching nerds. THe armour from the 2007 tralier looks as green as even which means it could have been upgrated and is brand new looking. [[User:Qwertyui606|Qwertyui606]] 07:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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| I'm just going to say this: so far, every new mark has had at least 1 MAJOR change. From MKIII to MKIV it was reactive metal for faster movements instead of a robotic exoskeleton. From MKIV to MKV it was energy shields and room for a starship grade AI. from MKV to MKVI it was healing capabilities. (don't pretend the 'shield upgrade' actually helped. Or did the Covies at the same time upgrade their plasma rifles? You tell me. Either case, not a major change)
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| In Halo 3, you get new gloves, and perhaps a paint job. New Mark? I don't think so.--[[User:CGD|CGD]] 19:49, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
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| ==where is the mark II armour mentioned==
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| in all my time playing halo reading the books and looking around here this is the first instance i have ever heard of the mark II armour can somebody tell me where it is mentioned
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| --[[User:Fatman ninja|Fatman ninja]] 18:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
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| :I think they might have mentioned it in Fall of Reach, I am not sure, but I've seen something similar about it too[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 05:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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| Maby it was just ASSUMED!?
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| I thought the exo armor the trainers use to train against the S-II in Fall of Reach was the begginings of the MJOLNIR armors development -- [[User:MCDBBlits|MCDBBlits]] 18:17, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
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| I don't think anyone ever mentions "MJOLNIR" MkI, MkII or MkIII. The exoskeleton Mk1 is mentioned in "Fall of Reach" but Dr H stated that for project Mjolnir the design concept of the exoskeleton projects had to be scraped and Mjolnir was redesigned from the ground up; wich would give the Mjolnir its own Mk I, II, and III. Page 70 Fall of Reach. Personally, I don't feel that the Mjolnir system was ever plugged in or used broadcast power.
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| [[User:Dagger133|Dagger133]] 04:14, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
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| ==This is exactly the same as the wikipedia article...==
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| They just changed a couple of words-- [[User:Black Mercy|Black Mercy]] 18:35, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
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| :I agree. [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 04:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
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| == Armor Shields ==
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| I heard that after 20 shield depletes/recharges the shields stop working,Is that true? --[[User:Mac10&Cheese|Mac10&Cheese]] 23:28, 18 March 2007
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| I don't think so. In game you can do more than that. Plus, in First Strike the Master Chief's shields were damaged. I think Cortana damaged then when she teleported Chief. But I still don't think it is 20. --[[User:Omrifere|Captain Jacob Rathens]] 02:48, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Well for one thing if you shoot someone with the sniper rifle 5 times.(shoot,recharge shoot,recharge etc.)you die.
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| huh? now I'm confused. I still think it recharges indefinetly. --[[User:Omrifere|Captain Jacob Rathens]] 05:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
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| In the game it will recharge every time it is hit. (unless you die). THough in game lore after Halo 1 it is replaced since it was highly damaged. It can be recharged in game forever. [[User:Qwertyui606|Qwertyui606]] 07:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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| ==Mystery Armor==
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| [[Image:S117orig.JPG|thumb|What version is this?]]
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| Where did you get that?--[[User:UNSC AI|UNSC AI]] 20:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
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| I know that, that's a picture from The Art of Halo. That's a pic from an early screenshot in 1999, the first announcment of the Halo game, actually![[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 11:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
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| :That was an early concept for MJOLNIR armor before it became what it is today. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front<font color="000000">(shockfront)]</font></sup></b> 20:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
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| I'm the guy who put it in so go ahead, Shower me with HATE Mail, I can take it! -- [[User:Ptowery|Ptowery]] 22:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
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| WHO PUT THE FREAKING CLEAR TEMPLATE IN!?!? Anyway, it isn't hate mail. '''[[w:c:halo:User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">G</font><font color="#770000"><sup>ü</sup></font><font color="#cc0000">é</font><font color="#ff0000"><sub>ß</sub></font><font color="#ff3333">Ł</font><font color="#ff6666"><sup>¥</sup></font>]]-[[w:c:halo:User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#9999ff">∏</font><font color="#6666ff"><sub>é</sub></font><font color="#3333ff">Ґ</font><font color="#0000ff"><sup>∫</sup></font><font color="#0000cc">ø</font><font color="#000066"><sub>ñ</sub></font><font color="#000000">¥</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000"><sup>†</sup></font><font color="#007700">ħ</font><font color="#00cc00"><sub>î</sub></font><font color="#00ff00">И</font><font color="#44ff44"><sup>g</sup></font><font color="#99ff99">¥</font>]]''' 22:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
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| I just like to know more about these concept arts after all, [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 10:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
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| == Mark 1? ==
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| I'm goint to remove the picture under mark 1. It's just an image of the halo that would be released for the pc, which means it is no longer cannon.
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| WHAT THE??? WHO PUT MISTER CHIEF IN MARK 1???!!! [[user:the evil O,malley
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| Yes, I put that pic in thinking it was Mark 1 Because of the gun on his Sholders and the Extentions... (see ABOVE) -- [[User:Ptowery|Ptowery]] 22:30, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
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| The Mark I doesn't even have green armor on it. --[[User:Uneven elephant|Uneven elephant]] 22:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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| ==I have a question...==
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| How come people like, let's say a [[Marine]], how come they don't wear MJOLNIR Armor?--[[User:SWME|SWME]] 14:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
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| *OK, I got my answer [[SPARTAN-II#MJOLNIR Armor|here]]. But this arises a new question; What was the reason regular humans died from wearing the armor? I don't see how.--[[User:SWME|SWME]] 21:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
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| It looks like a plain armor to me, it doesn't looks like half a ton. ![[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 01:27, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Well, appearances are deceiving. --[[User:GhostXIII|Ghost]] 01:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
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| Very deceiving. [[User:Qwertyui606|Qwertyui606]] 07:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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| The armor from Halo Wars is not the Mk IV. The MJOLNIR Mk IV armor is identical to the Mk V but with a smaller backpack. The Halo Wars armor looks like the MJOLNIR Mk VI, so that's different MJOLNIR. Mk VII? I bet those are SPARTAN-IV. Either way, the Omega Spartans are NOT in Mark IV armor. --[[User:MLG Cheehwawa]]
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| You might want to check your facts over alot. No mention is made that the two armor sets look identical in the books. Also seeing as the game is set in 2531-2551, during wihch the SPARTANS would be using Mk.IV MJOLNIR armor. And seeing as there aren't 'SPARTAN-IVs' (in fact by the start date there aren't even SPARTAN-IIIs) then it can be safely assumed that the armor is MK.IV. The image returns. --[[User:Ajax 013|Ajax 013]] 17:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
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| == Unlocking the armor ==
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| I'm amazed no one has put this up yet. To get the helmet, you must achieve the Sargent rank in matchmaking. Working on getting the others. [[User:Spartan657|Kage]]
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