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*Over 12,000 edits (most edits on site, [[user:Esemono|Esemono]] has 9,000+)

*Created many templates, most notably - organizational templates and infoboxes

*Created/edited my fair share of articles, especially starships

*Editor since August 2006 (9 months, w00t! =D)

*Created Halopedia Forums

*Repeated vandal fighting

*Halopedian of the Month for January 2007

Cheers,

#--[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] _{([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|Contact]])} 18:17, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

#--I'm absolutely for Relentless being a administrator on Halopedia...and i'm not kissing his ass either. :D '''([[User:CommanderTony|CommanderTony)]]'''

#--[[User:KillerCRS|'''Kwarsh''']]  

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#[[User:Spartan G-23|Spartan G-23]] 15:12  March 25 2007

#[[User:Gears Fanatic|<span style="color:silver">Silenced Nighthawk</span>]]^{([[User Talk:Gears Fanatic|<span style="color:gold">Comlink</span>]])([[Special:Contributions/Gears Fanatic|<span style="color:black">Past Missions</span>]])} 20:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

#Bloody Hell (I'm allowed to say that, right?) RR an admin?  May the Vandals be prepared. Just don't let this go to your head. '''For''' RR -- [[User:TheObviousOne|TheObviousOne]] 20:31, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

##Yeah, you can say that. I, at least, have no objection. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]^{([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])}</b> 21:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

#Why not, Peace.--[[User:The Chazz025|The Chazz025]] and [[User:The Chazz025/Taliban Command (Tango Company)|Clan]] 20:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

#[[User:Red Death|Mr.]] [[User talk:Red Death|WOZ]] [[Special:Contributions/Red Death|<font color="red">$</font>]] 20:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

#He is a good admin on Gearspedia, I know he will be good here. [[User:Darth tader|Darth tader]],[[User Talk:Darth tader|Talk to the Tader]],[[Special:Contributions/Darth tader|My work]] 20:55, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

#[[User:Shoe shot|Shoe shot]] 21:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC) Of course, RR pwns

#--[[User:John010117|John010117]] 23:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

#He saved me when I was new...OH, Wait, I still am! UP WITH RR!!! [[User:SPARTAN-118|SPARTAN-118]]

# I am definitely for RR becoming an admin.  I won't list all of my reasons, but here are a few,

:In my opinion RR is the most community minded user, personally welcoming as many people as he can, and making a new person feel welcome, and that he is an important part of the group.

::Esemono brought up the point of the 5000 edits. To the point of adminship, Yes RelentlessRecusant has done many, many things for Halopedia, but, in my opinion, Donut THX 1138, Caboose, Manticore, Rot, Ryanngreenday and GPT have too. If this goes through, the same reasoning could be applied to admiship for them, and it could be easily said that they deserve it for the exact same reasons. We do not ''need'' a new admin, the way things are currently working, we have 3 admins who work closely together and get everything that needs doing done. -[[User:ED|ED]] 21:09, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

:::And I would like to point out that none of those people save Ryanngreenday have applied for adminship. I for one am not interested in becoming an admin here. Sure, I did some nice things (though I can't remember them...perhaps my name's on there by mistake...), but I'm not applying for adminship. And if everything was working the way it needed to, there certainly wouldn't be so much strife and arguing going on.

:::::The reason for all the strife ''is'' that things were fine before. Vandalism is just as common and severe as before, and it is still dealt with quickly and efficently. So why are we pretending it has suddenly become an unmanageable crisis? -[[User:ED|ED]] 19:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

#What? You deserve it.[[User:Darth Gree|'''<font color="yellow">Envy</font>''']] [[User Talk:Darth Gree|'''<font color="Red">Skull</font>''']] [[Special:Contributions/Darth Gree|'''<font color="Orange">Effects</font>''']]

#<font color="#000000">[[user:Thepie|<font color="#000000">Shadow o</font><font color="#A9A9A9">f The Broken</font>]]<sub>([[user talk:Thepie|<font color="#A9A9A9">D</font><font color="#808080">isencha</font><font color="#000000">nted Sou</font>l]])([[user:Spartan 387|<font color="teal">The Plague Begins]])

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#Him helping out here and helping nubs and all that doesn't really mean anything; it's just that he's here a lot, so he'd be able to ban vandals nearly right away, respond to delete tags sooner, just little things like that, and our admins aren't here enough... no offense, it's just, yeah. As much as I would love to pwn RR by being an admin before him, he gets mah vote. '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">G</font><font color="#770000">^ü</font><font color="#cc0000">é</font><font color="#ff0000">_ß</font><font color="#ff3333">Ł</font><font color="#ff6666">^¥</font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#9999ff">∏</font><font color="#6666ff">_é</font><font color="#3333ff">Ґ</font><font color="#0000ff">^∫</font><font color="#0000cc">ø</font><font color="#000066">_ñ</font><font color="#000000">¥</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">^†</font><font color="#007700">ħ</font><font color="#00cc00">_î</font><font color="#00ff00">И</font><font color="#44ff44">^g</font><font color="#99ff99">¥</font>]]''' 22:34, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

:Right. I am constantly here and constantly block vandals and undo their work almost inststantly, not that I am ever recognized for it in any way. Check the block log against vandalism and tell me we aren't here enough. -[[User:ED|ED]] 22:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

::I said no offense. I'm not saying you don't do your job as an admin; I'm saying that sometimes none of the admins are on during a vandal crisis, and it would just help to have another. Anyway, as for recognition, check your talk page. '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">G</font><font color="#770000">^ü</font><font color="#cc0000">é</font><font color="#ff0000">_ß</font><font color="#ff3333">Ł</font><font color="#ff6666">^¥</font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#9999ff">∏</font><font color="#6666ff">_é</font><font color="#3333ff">Ґ</font><font color="#0000ff">^∫</font><font color="#0000cc">ø</font><font color="#000066">_ñ</font><font color="#000000">¥</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">^†</font><font color="#007700">ħ</font><font color="#00cc00">_î</font><font color="#00ff00">И</font><font color="#44ff44">^g</font><font color="#99ff99">¥</font>]]''' 03:09, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

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#--[[User:Commander Jake|CT-5619]] ^{[[User talk:Commander Jake|helmet comlink]]} 15:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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===Comments===

Good lord, RR, a Wikia admin thinks you should be an Admin.

::See ya,

*Good luck getting to be an admin. [[User:Gears Fanatic|<span style="color:silver">Silenced Nighthawk</span>]]^{([[User Talk:Gears Fanatic|<span style="color:gold">Comlink</span>]])([[Special:Contributions/Gears Fanatic|<span style="color:black">Past Missions</span>]])} 20:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

He deserves it. Good luck, RR. [[User:Red Death|Mr.]] [[User talk:Red Death|WOZ]] [[Special:Contributions/Red Death|<font color="red">$</font>]] 20:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

RR, You deserve to be an admin here. I know you'll do a great job of fighting against vandals. RR ftw! --[[User:John010117|John010117]] 23:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I think he should be an Administrator for all the things he's done for Halopedia. --[[User:Halofan|Halofan]] 17:23, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

*RR, I will hopefully talk with you in private on the IRC or something like that, but ''when'' you become admin, you will have to give halopedia as much attention as the other wiki's you are an admin(or sysops or buerocrats, etc.)in. I'm sure you're aware of this, and I will be interested in finding out what becomes of this site with the release of Halo 3, and seeing the affect of new adminship also. I think that you are very smart and realize all of this stuff already and the implications of new leadership. I knew you before I know most of the admins. It would be good for this site if we could have an admin that does not always stay in the shadows, but greets new users, actively contributes(obviously), and is not unreachable. But, you will also probably be getting a lot more messages, and frankly speaking, you are not very good about returning messages(spoken from personal experience). Don't take this the wrong way and think that I am pointing out mistakes or chastising you for something...I'm just saying this stuff, leaving it out in the air and letting time answer the questions. Peace. '''[[user:James-001|<font color=Yellow>I</font><font color=Gold>'</font><font color=Orange>m</font><font color=DarkOrange> O</font><font  

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#I'm absolutely for Relentless being a administrator on Halopedia...and i'm not kissing his ass either. :D '''([[User:CommanderTony|CommanderTony]])'''

==Neutral==

#I'm too new to Halopedia politics to make an intelligent decision. -[[User:Chickenman|Chickenman]] 22:57, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

#what Caboose said. [[User:Halofan|HДĿΘFáṆ]] 19:48, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

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'''1.)''' NO, I have almost 3000 edits and as  Esemono onece said to me, Rlentess Does '''NOT''' ues the preview button and that i probly had more edits then him. I Created/edited my fair share of articles to, mostly all the ranks and also made afew templates. I mad tons of userboxes and fought of many many vandels, I stay up very late on haloepdia so i to am on more then all the admits too, and on more then one time stayed up all night with out sleep on halopedia fighting vandels and making userboxes. I was the second halopedian of the month, so if he can be an admit i think i could be to.--''[[User:Ryanngreenday/Lima Company|<font color="black">'''M'''</font>]]''[[User:Ryanngreenday/History of Lima Company|<font color="black">'''E'''</font>]]''' '''[[User:ryanngreenday|<font color="black">'''The'''</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday/Archive|<font color="Maroon">'''Gre'''</font>]]''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="Maroon'">'''a'''</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|<font color="Maroon">'''t'''</font>]] 18:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

'''5.)''' Just because someone has a lot of contribs doesn't mean anything, no offense RR, but your contribs are: Forum, Talk page, Fanfic, Reverts, and little bit of main space edits. Sorry, but I can't say For. Besides this wiki has a ton of users already that can block users and what not.--[[User:H*bad|H*bad]] 12:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

:::Would just like to point out that while RR does contribute quite a bit to Forum, Talk page, and Fanfic, his main edit count is still more than most people's edit count including Forum, Talk page, and Fanfic. I believe...Esemono or ED (bad memory + laziness) estimated his main edit count to be 3000. Just thought you ought know.

'''7.)''' relentless in my oppinion should not be an admin. if he is to come to power he will use it against me and ryanngreenday, i can garantee that. we also have hade our fude in the past and it was over nothing. in closing, RR is evil bent on halopedia domination.- this message brought to you by Gravemind {{unsigned|Gravemind}}

:So basically what you're saying is that because you and RR had an argument and one point over something petty, he shouldn't be admin? Bullocks if you ask me. But then, we are each entitled to our opinion...I suppose

'''8.)''' Nope I have no problem with RR or what ever the hell he calls himself now it changes every week (I even tried to convince him to stay when he made a big deal about leaving). But ive said before there is no need for more Admins; maybe when Halo 3 and Halo Wars are realized and we are over run by more users and hundreds of new articles to write there will be cause for something like this, but is the fabric of Halopedia breaking down with chaos and hundreds of vandals? Is there really a need for a Knight in shinning armour to stand up and restore order? we are running better than ever with a good staff and each Users brings something new to our society wither its user box's or a new style of article, the thought of Adminship being the greatest honor a User can receive on Wikia divides us all . And those of us who have voted against him must prey for our immortal souls for the vengeance he will release on use if he succeeds (That’s all), and sorry if this is to late ive been..ill  --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 13:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)     

P.S. i have had personal experiences with RR's "advice", i felt like I was being criticized  

===Comments===

:'''Comment''': Everyone makes a small spelling error every once now and then. But I think that perhaps that's not so bad thing. And rarely a wiki is '''democratic'''. It's majority what counts. If a majority of users wants RR to be admin - fair. If the majority of users doesn't want Ryanngreenday to become an admin - fair. And there's a reason why Wikia has an IRC channel and an IRC client aswell. It's so that you can alert staff about vandalism, as there's no point of losing your sleep over Wikia. Yes, Wikia can be addictive, but you need to learn when things are going too far. --[[User:Jack Phoenix|Jack Phoenix]] _{([[User talk:Jack Phoenix|Contact]])} 19:15, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

:This is what I'm afraid of.  If RR is able to force his way in then everyone who added a lot of FanFiction onto halopedia will be able to get an Admin spot. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 01:14, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

*So if I understand Ryanngreenday's argument correctly, he is saying that he is against RR being an admin because he isn't being considered for the position? Don't you have to apply for the position, because if so, it just means RR took the initiative where Ryan didn't. Ryan, if you want to be an admin, apply.

*Well i cant sat my real argumnet because i promised i wouldnt, but I am applying as of now, i'd be just as good as relentless but im not able to do any of the fancy forum page thingys or something because im indisposed at this curnet time.--''[[User:Ryanngreenday/Lima Company|<font color="black">'''M'''</font>]]''[[User:Ryanngreenday/History of Lima Company|<font color="black">'''E'''</font>]]''' '''[[User:ryanngreenday|<font color="black">'''The'''</font>]]'' ''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday/Archive|<font color="Maroon">'''Gre'''</font>]]''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="Maroon'">'''a'''</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Ryanngreenday|<font color="Maroon">'''t'''</font>]] 21:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

:Cheers,

::As an outsider, I'm good at commenting these things. So, I think that admins/bureaucrats are forgetting one thing: admins are not "GodKings" or above normal users in ''any way''. This, from an outsiders point of view, seems cabalistic. RelentlessRecusant is a devoted member of your community. He seems to be a very good contributor. The community consensus is very clear, in my opinion. 19 people have voted '''for''' on RR's adminship.

::And it would be good if every user would use the preview button, yes. But what kind of a wiki is a wiki where you can't edit a page more than once? I tell you, it might be a website, but not a wiki.

::''Even if you requested the wiki be created, you do not own it. The wikis are owned by the communities, not by any one user.''

::Summa summarum: If the community has decided that an user should be made an admin of the site, current buraucrats(/admins) can't '''ignore''' the community consensus just because they don't like the consensus.

I miss any?

::I don't know who said some of the above things, but I can respond with my perspective.

:1.) Agreed.

:3.) To me, this is the main issue.

:4.) Something you all don't seem to understand is Esemono's style. He is brisk and to the point. Here to edit, not socialize. He doesn't sugarcoat the things he has to say, he just says them. As far as I have seen, he has never resorted to insulting people for no good reason, and it can not be proven that he has had a "mean tone" to what he says. No one can prove any "tone" on the internet. We can only trust his words, and he has denied that he "hates" RelentlessRecusant, it is something he has been denying for months.

:4. My only point here is that in a way Esemono and RR are much alike, and since point four didn't apply to Esemono, it shouldn't apply to RR.

:5. I do remember RR's leave, and I would like to point out that it was more of an accusation that he addressed, and the accuser just kept on saying it, even though that person was contradicting his or her self. I would be fed up as and would have walked away from the situation. Perhaps not as dramatically, but I still would have been frustrated at my powerlessness to stop the person from being a jerk. I feel the same way about vandals.

   

:::I really don't want to intrude, but two items:

::::#What "vandalism" have I done during my leave? You can see my leave...[http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20061208002919&limit=100&target=RelentlessRecusant  here]. My "leave" was actually from [http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20061208002919&limit=100&target=RelentlessRecusant  0845 hours to 1112 hours on December 7, 2006]. That's...two and a half hours. A major haitus indeed.   

::::#I was never at the "old Halopedia". You must be thinking of someone else. My first week or so here and my several month haitus on Wookieepedia and away from Halopedia was spent as [[Special:Contributions/RelentlessRogue|RelentlessRogue]].

:::Cheers,

:::::To YOUR two points which were directed to me: Hmm, it seems I was mistaken about you being at old.halopedia but the "leave" i was talking about was the one you made during August 13 - November 14 2006. That is, in fact, a "maor hiatus". You tagged every "ilovebees" article for deletion and placed templates on numerous pages without citing any reasons. Ilovebees was tagged as canon in July 2006. I won't name names, but some users came to Dragonclaws calling it vandalism. The accusation was never answered by you, and most of those edits had to be reverted. There are probably other instances other people are talking about, but that's one that comes to mind to me. -[[User:ED|ED]] 21:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

::::::Regardless of ILB's canon-ness, which was not known at the time, is the fact that it was highly notable and Microsoft-produced. RR called it fanfiction and said it should be deleted, but whether or not it was canon was not the main issue in defending it. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]^{([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])}</b> 21:30, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

all these people who r against RR r just people who want to be in charge.