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:I'm sorry you're not buying that the ship's dimensions "feel" wrong. Hard data trumps feelings, fortunately. Like most gigantic objects in the Halo games, the big objects are made smaller for various reasons, mostly to conserve game memory and to limit depth of field issues. I personally verified 343i's 6 page doc of stats and calculations just about the ''Mantle's Approach'' itself! In fact it was the first verification I did working on the Guide, before a copy of the book was even sent. I ran the numbers and verified values of the full ship mesh, various portions of in-between scaled meshes, plus the actual sized mesh of the playable area that has the defense turrets. Despite your "feeling", it does make sense and I wish I could prove it beyond these few words. Hint: The area you see damaged by ''Infinity'' is a smaller circle-within-a-circle than what is the obvious red-outlined area of the firing area on the full Mantle's Approach mesh. In the material I reviewed they even showed an area that had the damage in it from ''Infinity'' and the Broadsword playable area is tiny! Once the dimensions of ''Mantle's Approach'' was confirmed, I used that to calculate the size of Requiem as that was still unknown at the time. Coincidentally (based on the ship's height) Requiem ended up about slightly larger than a Halo ring in diameter. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 10:19, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
:I'm sorry you're not buying that the ship's dimensions "feel" wrong. Hard data trumps feelings, fortunately. Like most gigantic objects in the Halo games, the big objects are made smaller for various reasons, mostly to conserve game memory and to limit depth of field issues. I personally verified 343i's 6 page doc of stats and calculations just about the ''Mantle's Approach'' itself! In fact it was the first verification I did working on the Guide, before a copy of the book was even sent. I ran the numbers and verified values of the full ship mesh, various portions of in-between scaled meshes, plus the actual sized mesh of the playable area that has the defense turrets. Despite your "feeling", it does make sense and I wish I could prove it beyond these few words. Hint: The area you see damaged by ''Infinity'' is a smaller circle-within-a-circle than what is the obvious red-outlined area of the firing area on the full Mantle's Approach mesh. In the material I reviewed they even showed an area that had the damage in it from ''Infinity'' and the Broadsword playable area is tiny! Once the dimensions of ''Mantle's Approach'' was confirmed, I used that to calculate the size of Requiem as that was still unknown at the time. Coincidentally (based on the ship's height) Requiem ended up about slightly larger than a Halo ring in diameter. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 10:19, 22 September 2013 (EDT)


::That still doesn't answer the question of how a small nuke can destroy a ship the size of Maryland. And even then, if they had to make the ship smaller to fit in the game, why not just make the dimensions concide with the in-game size? To me, it just falls under the category of inconsistency. I'm not looking at this from a perpective of "feelings". Its more along the lines of what does and doesn't make sense to me. Its too over the top for me to believe even if you ran the numbers. Not to say you're wrong. It is what it is.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:58, 7 October 2013 (EDT)
::That still doesn't answer the question of how a small nuke can destroy a ship the size of Maryland. And even then, if they had to make the ship smaller to fit in the game, why not just make the dimensions concide with the in-game size? To me, it just falls under the category of inconsistency and not like the POA where "the maw" was longer than the actual size. Halo 4 does the opposite and that's what's bugging me. I'm not looking at this from a perpective of "feelings". Its more along the lines of what does and doesn't make sense to me. Its too over the top for me to believe even if you ran the numbers. Not to say you're wrong. It is what it is. If can, put together a new scale comparison of the new ships from Halo 4 (like w/ what you've done w/ all the other ships). With those new dimensions I want to see how big it scales in comparison to the rest of the ships in the game since my lil comparion is way off.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:58, 7 October 2013 (EDT)


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