Forum:Brutes Should NOT Join Elite Covenant Remnant Factions: Difference between revisions

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==Comments==
==Comments==
YES, THEY CAN AND HAVE.
YES, THEY CAN AND HAVE.
You're wrong. You're acting like canon information should be discarded simply because you want things to be simpler and for all members of an entire species to act and believe the same. {{Unsigned|Japeth555}}
You're wrong. You're acting like canon information should be discarded simply because you want things to be simpler and for all members of an entire species to act and believe the same. {{Unsigned|Japeth555}}
 
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* Where is it documented that they got into fistfights? And where does it say they hated each other from day 1?
* Where is it documented that they got into fistfights? And where does it say they hated each other from day 1?
* The reason why Brutes are rarely seen with Elites is because they bring psychological warfare, while the elites do not.  
* The reason why Brutes are rarely seen with Elites is because they bring psychological warfare, while the elites do not.  
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* Half of your "arguments" are flawed, come back when you think it through.
* Half of your "arguments" are flawed, come back when you think it through.
[[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 19:06, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
[[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 19:06, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
 
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Where is it documented that they got into fist fights you ask? almost every peice of Halo lore depicts that there was rivalry between the Elites and Brutes in the Covenant Empire, how do you not know this? I can't dig up the exact quote where they got into physical fights (I'm not going to dig through      every Halo book to find it, but it is there). Read the article on Brutes and on Elites in this wiki and you will find evidence that there was rivalry and resentment towards each other when they were both in the Original Covenant Empire. Where is it documented that they hate each other since day 1? Almost every Halo story takes the chance it has to tell the player the relationship between Brutes and Elites.  
Where is it documented that they got into fist fights you ask? almost every peice of Halo lore depicts that there was rivalry between the Elites and Brutes in the Covenant Empire, how do you not know this? I can't dig up the exact quote where they got into physical fights (I'm not going to dig through      every Halo book to find it, but it is there). Read the article on Brutes and on Elites in this wiki and you will find evidence that there was rivalry and resentment towards each other when they were both in the Original Covenant Empire. Where is it documented that they hate each other since day 1? Almost every Halo story takes the chance it has to tell the player the relationship between Brutes and Elites.  
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None of my arguments are flawed, you are just not aware of the Halo lore between the Brutes and Elites rivalry. If you had known this, you would know that if Jul or Elites can't make peace with the Arbiter's Swords of Sanghelios (A fellow brother species), or the Humans, they would never have the mindset to forgive the Brutes, their most hated enemy of all. [[User:SpartanEdit0r|SpartanEdit0r]] ([[User talk:SpartanEdit0r|talk]]) 22:32, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
None of my arguments are flawed, you are just not aware of the Halo lore between the Brutes and Elites rivalry. If you had known this, you would know that if Jul or Elites can't make peace with the Arbiter's Swords of Sanghelios (A fellow brother species), or the Humans, they would never have the mindset to forgive the Brutes, their most hated enemy of all. [[User:SpartanEdit0r|SpartanEdit0r]] ([[User talk:SpartanEdit0r|talk]]) 22:32, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
 
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I'm not sure why you care so much about a topic that's never been an issue. There's been nothing from Halo media claiming Brutes are joining Jul's remnant. It's as much a non-issue as the Flood joining the Covenant. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 20:03, 28 August 2015 (EDT)  
I'm not sure why you care so much about a topic that's never been an issue. There's been nothing from Halo media claiming Brutes are joining Jul's remnant. It's as much a non-issue as the Flood joining the Covenant. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 20:03, 28 August 2015 (EDT)  
 
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There are some Brutes in his Covenant, as evidenced by Spartan Strike. {{Unsigned|162.234.136.110}}
There are some Brutes in his Covenant, as evidenced by Spartan Strike. {{Unsigned|162.234.136.110}}
 
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Okay. First off, the tone of this piece comes across as defensive and accusatory. Just saying, you may want to work on that in the future.
Okay. First off, the tone of this piece comes across as defensive and accusatory. Just saying, you may want to work on that in the future.
Second, Glasslands, Spartan Strike, etc, are canon sources. Glasslands makes it explicitly clear that whatever misgivings you have about it, Brutes have continued to work with Elites in some limited numbers, albeit to serve their own purposes.
Second, Glasslands, Spartan Strike, etc, are canon sources. Glasslands makes it explicitly clear that whatever misgivings you have about it, Brutes have continued to work with Elites in some limited numbers, albeit to serve their own purposes.
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And addressing your last remark: I'm not the only disregarding canonical sources. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:45, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
And addressing your last remark: I'm not the only disregarding canonical sources. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:45, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
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