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 :::'''Addendum''': Not to mention Manticore is essentially the "night shift" at Halopedia, and spends 6-8 hours during his day (our sleeptime) on the IRC, active. =] Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|<span style="color: #6262FF; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''RelentlessRecusant'''</span>]] 'o the [[w:c:halo:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]] http://images.wikia.com/rainbowsix/images/7/73/GDI2.jpg <small><sup>[[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit&section=new   <font color="A9A9A9">MESSAGE</font>]</sub></small> 01:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 ::::Why are you guys so wanting to get me to vote for this guy, that you guys go so far as to saying that I am being stupid for not voting for him. This is just a simple matter of not wanting him in office, because he is so endorsed by the Admins that he can't lose. Manticore, I have nothing against you, I just have against that the Admins endorse you more than they endorse Ryan. If the Admins would stop endorsing Manticore, then I will vote for him. Simple as that. And Relentless, you should know better, although after last (nights?) discussion I guess not. And Forgottenlord, the reason I have changed my story is because I have found a new thing to not like about Manticore.--'''[[w:c:halofanon:User:H*bad|H*bad]] <sup>([[w:c:halofanon:User talk:H*bad|talk]])'''</sup> 12:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
+:::::Quite simply: you are saying you've got something against Manticore.  You are disrespecting Manticore.  You are taking a private war against the admins and punishing an excellent person because of it.  I don't care if you vote against a person, I do care if you vote against the person for reasons that either don't make sense or are just plain wrong.  Thus far, you've hit that marker many times for your many different arguments.
+:::::I support people who say they aren't voting for a person because they don't like them, because they don't trust them, because they don't want to have to be on a community where that person is an admin.  I support people who go into much more detailed explanations of the flaws of such an individual.  It's not that you're stupid for not voting for him, it's just that your reason for not voting for him is stupid.
+:::::Even more importantly, your argument is just dead wrong - and I've said that both here and on your little essay.  The System must change before you can have the admins pull their votes.  It is the necessity of the system that the admins make their votes, and make Manticore aware of their concerns and non-concerns of his skills, abilities and aptitude.  Why?  Because it is the admins who must be convinced to make Manticore an admin - or convinced by the community to not grant Manticore adminship as the case may be.  Explain to me how it is fair to Manticore if he is not given this information, if such a vote of confidence or a vote of non-confidence from the admins is not provided to him.
+:::::Yes, this may have the effect of making the power-grabbers side with the admins, but that isn't what I think is happening here - despite your claims otherwise.  I don't even understand why you have claimed as such.  Why did you state, earlier, "You guys who are voting for him are, because you have to backbone to go against RR, GPT, and ED"?  Do you think that I voted for Manticore because RR said he was good?  Do you REALLY think that I haven't formed my own opinion of Manticore?  Do you really think that I didn't make my vote based upon my own opinions of Manticore?  Do you think Phil_E, HaloDude, Jack_Pheonix or Spartan-077 haven't formed their own opinions and made up their own minds based upon those opinions?  You, yourself, claim that there is no obvious reason to vote against Manticore, that there is nothing wrong with him.  So why would they not vote for him?  What reason is there not to vote for him - especially when his history with Rollback, his history of welcoming new users, his history of helping users, and his complete answers to 14 questions below all give him points with the userbase.
+:::::HBad, your argument doesn't make a lick of sense, and that is why I don't believe it is your argument.  If you don't want Manticore to be an administrator because you don't like him, because you think he's RR's lackey, because he's kicked or banned you a couple of times, or something else personal, put it down.  It is a valid argument and a valid reason and I would have nothing against you for that.  Right now, you are acting like the world's biggest idiot.
+:::::So HBad, what is your problem? --[[User:Forgottenlord|forgottenlord]] 16:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
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