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 ::What the heck is with this BS concept that Ryan and Manticore can only be admins at the exclusion of the other?  The administration team could either reject or take both of them by the time the voting is done based upon the decisions of this administration team.  Of course RR and GPT prefer Manticore over Ryan, but they won't make their decision on Ryan based upon whether Manticore got in or not - they'll make their decision based upon the merits and concerns raised regarding Ryan and the the degree of community support for Ryan.  This isn't a first past the post issue.  --[[User:Forgottenlord|forgottenlord]] 17:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 :::I just want to make something clear, the reason I am voting against Manticore isn't because RR and GPT prefer him more, it's because I am showing to you that I think that Manticore is qualified. This is more of a rebuttal against what is wrong. What is wrong is that everyone is influenced by these sysops that they have their new opinions about them. I will be willing to change my vote if they take their names out of the vote. Because that way people won't be so inclined to vote for that person for the wrong reason. Instead of the right reason, which is that they know why they are voting.--'''[[w:c:halofanon:User:H*bad|H*bad]] <sup>([[w:c:halofanon:User talk:H*bad|talk]])'''</sup> 03:23, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
+::::It is the Sysop's decision, not the final vote, that decides whether an RfA passes.  It is the right of those who's RfA's have been submitted to know where they stand with the Sysops and know what issues the Sysops have with them.  Look at RR's RfA: all 4 Sysops at the time voted against him - but they gave him many points worth considering and thinking about.  Despite that, the community supported RR - just as the community has supported Ryan despite the disapproval of the Sysops.
+::::Furthermore, explain to me how the Sysops are not a part of the community?  Why shouldn't they get a say?  Many members of the community have built up reputations and degrees of respect from community members that would be comparable to the sysops - should they not be allowed to vote too?  Should we have a secret ballot, known only by the candidate and the admins?  Why?
+::::I agree that all systems should always be questioned and tested and all issues about the system need to be considered.  However, I fail to see why you would punish Manticore, one of the most respected community members, to make your point understood.  It baffles me that you would sink to such a despicable tactic.
+::::H*Bad, you have levied complaint after accusation against Manticore - publicly and privately to Halopedia as a whole and to the Administrators.  You have made accusations of the most sinister nature and complaints that made little sense and when they fell apart, you changed your story, your argument, for why you're voting against Manticore.  Your story has changed no less than 4 times now - and you claim you never have lied to me.  Perhaps it is time to make a real complaint.  What is your problem with Manticore, and why are you so stubborn in your attacks on him? --[[User:Forgottenlord|forgottenlord]] 15:22, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 So, just to clarify: you're voting against me, because you think I'm qualified to do the job, but you'll change your mind if everyone else does? O_o -- [[User:Manticore|<font color=black>'''Manticore'''</font>]] [[Image:Fleet Admiral.jpg|20px]] <sup>[[User talk:Manticore|<font color=black>Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<font color=black>CSV</font>]] | [[Halopedia:Requests for Adminship/Manticore|<font color=black>RfA</font>]]</sup> 09:37, 30 August 2007 (UTC)