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Anyone care to speculate on the general plot of Halo 5?  [[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 13:31, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
Anyone care to speculate on the general plot of Halo 5?  [[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 13:31, 16 May 2014 (EDT)


:If the concept art is any indication, I have a feeling we'll be visiting multiple settings, though I suppose that's a given for the series. Along with pretty much everyone else I think we'll be returning the the Ark at some point, while [[:File:Sparth unknown future project.jpg|this piece]] suggests Venezia. The statue in the background of the [[:File:Halo-5-guardians-concept-art.jpg|newest image]] is holding an energy sword or twin-scythe: given the architecture and the environment, my money's on Sanghelios. While the Chief's ''Halo 4'' duds are my favorite MJOLNIR variant ever, I hope he winds up with a new suit in the game proper. Frankly, given the way ''Escalation'' is developing he may not get the chance, but that suits me fine as long as the story provides a good justification for him to continue using it. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 13:58, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
:If the concept art is any indication, I have a feeling we'll be visiting multiple settings, though I suppose that's a given for the series. Along with pretty much everyone else I think we'll be returning the the Ark at some point, while this piece suggests Venezia. The statue in the background of the [[:File:Halo-5-guardians-concept-art.jpg|newest image]] is holding an energy sword or twin-scythe: given the architecture and the environment, my money's on Sanghelios. While the Chief's ''Halo 4'' duds are my favorite MJOLNIR variant ever, I hope he winds up with a new suit in the game proper. Frankly, given the way ''Escalation'' is developing he may not get the chance, but that suits me fine as long as the story provides a good justification for him to continue using it. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 13:58, 16 May 2014 (EDT)


::{{Quote|Dark Samus? It looks like the long-awaited Halo/Metroid crossover is coming to fruition.|Braidenvl}}
::{{Quote|Dark Samus? It looks like the long-awaited Halo/Metroid crossover is coming to fruition.|Braidenvl}}
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:We may be visiting it in campaign & multiplayer, just like Halo: Reach. Although people may have a huge disdain for that if we do. Who knows.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 16:57, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
:We may be visiting it in campaign & multiplayer, just like Halo: Reach. Although people may have a huge disdain for that if we do. Who knows.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 16:57, 16 May 2014 (EDT)


I definitely think this character at the top is an ONI assassin/tracker/hunter that's going after a rogue Master Chief. The cloak makes sense when you're trying to conceal yourself. Why would Chief go rogue? Well, Halo 4 Spartan Ops points to that pretty heavily. After Halsey defected to Jul 'Mdama's side, and Chief didn't know Halsey was still alive this whole time until recently, it seems like a pretty apt assumption to make. Maybe you're playing this ONI hunter as well as Master Chief in a sort of Halo 2-esque campaign?--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 20:01, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
I definitely think this character at the top is an ONI assassin/tracker/hunter that's going after a rogue Master Chief. The cloak makes sense when you're trying to conceal yourself. Why would Chief go rogue? Well, Halo 4 Spartan Ops points to that pretty heavily. After Halsey defected to Jul 'Mdama's side, and Chief didn't know Halsey was still alive this whole time until recently, it seems like a pretty apt assumption to make. Maybe you're playing this ONI hunter as well as Master Chief in a sort of Halo 2-esque campaign?--''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 20:01, 16 May 2014 (EDT)


@FluffyEmoPenguin: yes. yes. so much yes. That is just what I thought. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 23:46, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
@FluffyEmoPenguin: yes. yes. so much yes. That is just what I thought. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 23:46, 16 May 2014 (EDT)


:I'm placing my money on it being Fred, forced to hunt down his old friend/leader, John, who's gone rogue for a bit to try and find a way to bring Cortana back or rescue Halsey. So while John is fighting his way through Insurrectionists or Covenant, Fred is following his trail, trying to bring him in to answer for his actions. You can justify "new character" as "new to the games" if you have to. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:01, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
:I'm placing my money on it being Fred, forced to hunt down his old friend/leader, John, who's gone rogue for a bit to try and find a way to bring Cortana back or rescue Halsey. So while John is fighting his way through Insurrectionists or Covenant, Fred is following his trail, trying to bring him in to answer for his actions. You can justify "new character" as "new to the games" if you have to. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:01, 17 May 2014 (EDT)


::I just read that the game's creative director is Tim Longo of ''Republic Commando'' fame. Not only is ''Republic Commando'' one of my absolute favorite ''Star Wars'' games, - and I've played a ''lot'' of them - it's probably the coolest squad-based FPS I've ever played. I know there are objectively better games in the genre, though in my opinion none of them can hold a candle to the atmosphere and tight pacing of ''RC''. I wonder how many elements from that game will find their way into ''Halo 5''. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 11:53, 18 May 2014 (EDT)
::I just read that the game's creative director is Tim Longo of ''Republic Commando'' fame. Not only is ''Republic Commando'' one of my absolute favorite ''Star Wars'' games, - and I've played a ''lot'' of them - it's probably the coolest squad-based FPS I've ever played. I know there are objectively better games in the genre, though in my opinion none of them can hold a candle to the atmosphere and tight pacing of ''RC''. I wonder how many elements from that game will find their way into ''Halo 5''. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 11:53, 18 May 2014 (EDT)
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:::That's what I was thinking when the news broke. ''RC''-style simple but elegant squad command system with Blue Team? With no ''vocal'' feedback most of the time, just acknowledgment lights flashing on your HUD? Yes please. I'm also glad about the switch in art direction. Kenneth Scott was always a poor fit for ''Halo'''s visual style and while I consider Sparth's redesign of the ''Dawn'' as going too far, I'm more hopeful with him at the helm given his portfolio. Let's hope the cartoonishly ugly Covenant (and Forerunner!) designs were an unfortunate one-off occurrence. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:51, 18 May 2014 (EDT)
:::That's what I was thinking when the news broke. ''RC''-style simple but elegant squad command system with Blue Team? With no ''vocal'' feedback most of the time, just acknowledgment lights flashing on your HUD? Yes please. I'm also glad about the switch in art direction. Kenneth Scott was always a poor fit for ''Halo'''s visual style and while I consider Sparth's redesign of the ''Dawn'' as going too far, I'm more hopeful with him at the helm given his portfolio. Let's hope the cartoonishly ugly Covenant (and Forerunner!) designs were an unfortunate one-off occurrence. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:51, 18 May 2014 (EDT)


::::That ONI tracker idea sounds very likely (whether it is or isn't Fred). With what's been happening with ONI, Halsey, and John, and all of their relationships to each other, this could be very interesting, and also an excellent mirror of Halo 2, not only in the split campaign, but also that the second character is after the first, until they meet up and the latter learns the truth about Chief, and then they team up. It's also looking even more likely that those [[Siege Bike|REAP-X]] [[Light Assault VTOL|ONI]] [[Quad Walker|vehicles]] will show up. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 20:53, 18 May 2014 (EDT)
::::That ONI tracker idea sounds very likely (whether it is or isn't Fred). With what's been happening with ONI, Halsey, and John, and all of their relationships to each other, this could be very interesting, and also an excellent mirror of Halo 2, not only in the split campaign, but also that the second character is after the first, until they meet up and the latter learns the truth about Chief, and then they team up. It's also looking even more likely that those REAP-X ONI vehicles will show up. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 20:53, 18 May 2014 (EDT)


I have to say, the font for the number "5" does not click with the "Halo" title. Feels out of place. Also, one needs to question why the UNSC has not fixed John's dented armour after the events of ''Halo 4''. What happened to that ample supply of nanomachines on the ''Infinity''? Also, the concept arts might be concepts for multiplayer play space rather than campaign play space. I'll reserve my comments about other stuff. :P — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  13:45, 19 May 2014 (EDT)
I have to say, the font for the number "5" does not click with the "Halo" title. Feels out of place. Also, one needs to question why the UNSC has not fixed John's dented armour after the events of ''Halo 4''. What happened to that ample supply of nanomachines on the ''Infinity''? Also, the concept arts might be concepts for multiplayer play space rather than campaign play space. I'll reserve my comments about other stuff. :P — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  13:45, 19 May 2014 (EDT)
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::You guys already pointed out most of the hints and clues so far, though one thing that's extremely interesting is that the cryo pods are open and empty, and I doubt they would go to all this trouble just to bring back Cutter and Anders as flood. Anders could fill the UNSC scientist role vacated by Halsey, especially given their apparent history. Another Halo Wars would make a lot of sense too, not doing so would be kind of like not bringing back Thel in the next main game, especially when he was in Escalation. While I do love how interconnected all of the Halo universe's media is, I hope they don't go too drastic with the changes and revelations in Escalation, they've already killed of Paul DeMarco, put Hood in a wheelchair, infected the Spirit of Fire with flood, and it looks like we're getting the entire setup to Chief's next game, even apparently involving the Didact. Still nothing with the squad from ODST at all yet, though if they just bring them back just to kill (some of them) off, I'd rather they just not; it's pretty much the only Halo story where everyone doesn't die. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 18:48, 1 June 2014 (EDT)
::You guys already pointed out most of the hints and clues so far, though one thing that's extremely interesting is that the cryo pods are open and empty, and I doubt they would go to all this trouble just to bring back Cutter and Anders as flood. Anders could fill the UNSC scientist role vacated by Halsey, especially given their apparent history. Another Halo Wars would make a lot of sense too, not doing so would be kind of like not bringing back Thel in the next main game, especially when he was in Escalation. While I do love how interconnected all of the Halo universe's media is, I hope they don't go too drastic with the changes and revelations in Escalation, they've already killed of Paul DeMarco, put Hood in a wheelchair, infected the Spirit of Fire with flood, and it looks like we're getting the entire setup to Chief's next game, even apparently involving the Didact. Still nothing with the squad from ODST at all yet, though if they just bring them back just to kill (some of them) off, I'd rather they just not; it's pretty much the only Halo story where everyone doesn't die. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 18:48, 1 June 2014 (EDT)


:Flaw - Sanghelios occupies a ''triple'' star system, not a binary one. I do think it's setting the Spirit of Fire's cast and characters up for a new story in the future, and I'm personally hoping for a Halo Wars 2. I really doubt, though, that they will feature in Halo 5 with the Master Chief. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:12, 1 June 2014 (EDT)
:Flaw - Sanghelios occupies a ''triple'' star system, not a binary one. I do think it's setting the Spirit of Fire's cast and characters up for a new story in the future, and I'm personally hoping for a Halo Wars 2. I really doubt, though, that they will feature in Halo 5 with the Master Chief. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:12, 1 June 2014 (EDT)


Aw, I thought it was a binary system. Also, thanks for giving me that article on the Post-Battle Investigation on Installation 00. I didn't even know that had happened. Interesting. Maybe it was showing Sanghelios's Two Moons, cause I guess they are a little close to Sanghelios to be Suns. I'm sticking to my theory. I guess we'll see if I'm right in 5 Days, or for me 11 Days, cause that's when Gameinformer comes out. Cheers, [[Special:Contributions/76.17.73.143|76.17.73.143]] 08:37, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
Aw, I thought it was a binary system. Also, thanks for giving me that article on the Post-Battle Investigation on Installation 00. I didn't even know that had happened. Interesting. Maybe it was showing Sanghelios's Two Moons, cause I guess they are a little close to Sanghelios to be Suns. I'm sticking to my theory. I guess we'll see if I'm right in 5 Days, or for me 11 Days, cause that's when Gameinformer comes out. Cheers, [[Special:Contributions/76.17.73.143|76.17.73.143]] 08:37, 4 June 2014 (EDT)
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Oops, sorry. I would recommend zooming out to about 10 in order to see the full 'The Package' Image. Much bigger than I thought they would. Cheers, [[Special:Contributions/76.17.73.143|76.17.73.143]] 16:41, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
Oops, sorry. I would recommend zooming out to about 10 in order to see the full 'The Package' Image. Much bigger than I thought they would. Cheers, [[Special:Contributions/76.17.73.143|76.17.73.143]] 16:41, 26 June 2014 (EDT)


:I'm guessing the Spartan wearing the Tracker variant is Linda, since that get-out would be pretty useful for a sniper. The one next to the Chief in the EVA would probably be Kelly, since she's been depicted in that recently, and the one in the back left would therefore be Fred in his old Mark VI helmet, probably updated. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:17, 27 June 2014 (EDT)
:I'm guessing the Spartan wearing the Tracker variant is Linda, since that get-out would be pretty useful for a sniper. The one next to the Chief in the EVA would probably be Kelly, since she's been depicted in that recently, and the one in the back left would therefore be Fred in his old Mark VI helmet, probably updated. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:17, 27 June 2014 (EDT)


::It looks like "Linda"'s MA5 has the Prime skin on it. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 17:06, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
::It looks like "Linda"'s MA5 has the Prime skin on it. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 17:06, 28 June 2014 (EDT)
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I agree, I would hate for the ADS Mechanic to be introduced into Halo 5: Guardians. It would just kinda screw up the experience. Although it would be cool to have different kinds of sights for maybe different zoom levels or maybe even NV Scopes or maybe even like the target locator scope from Black Ops II, that would be awesome. Cheers, [[Special:Contributions/76.17.73.143|76.17.73.143]] 15:09, 14 June 2014 (EDT)
I agree, I would hate for the ADS Mechanic to be introduced into Halo 5: Guardians. It would just kinda screw up the experience. Although it would be cool to have different kinds of sights for maybe different zoom levels or maybe even NV Scopes or maybe even like the target locator scope from Black Ops II, that would be awesome. Cheers, [[Special:Contributions/76.17.73.143|76.17.73.143]] 15:09, 14 June 2014 (EDT)


:Considering the entire point of the helmet-mounted display is that you don't need to manually align your sights with your eyes, implementing iron sights literally makes no sense. I can understand weapons being ''able'' to have iron sights, for warfighters who don't have that uplink, but not Spartans or ODSTs. I wouldn't mind limited gun customisation though, at least aesthetically - the skins from Halo 4 look nice, but I wouldn't mind things like different optics or even that 40mm grenade launcher we;ve heard tell about for the MA5. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:19, 14 June 2014 (EDT)
:Considering the entire point of the helmet-mounted display is that you don't need to manually align your sights with your eyes, implementing iron sights literally makes no sense. I can understand weapons being ''able'' to have iron sights, for warfighters who don't have that uplink, but not Spartans or ODSTs. I wouldn't mind limited gun customisation though, at least aesthetically - the skins from Halo 4 look nice, but I wouldn't mind things like different optics or even that 40mm grenade launcher we;ve heard tell about for the MA5. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:19, 14 June 2014 (EDT)
::I would think it would indeed be different zoom levels or specialized sights like night vision/IR. Suppressors, flashlights, and yes, grenade launchers would also be possible, but I doubt we'll see actual ADS. It would be kind of like the M7S's scope. I still find it very amusing that Red vs. Blue beat actual Halo canon to having the MA5's underslung launcher. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 17:33, 17 June 2014 (EDT)
::I would think it would indeed be different zoom levels or specialized sights like night vision/IR. Suppressors, flashlights, and yes, grenade launchers would also be possible, but I doubt we'll see actual ADS. It would be kind of like the M7S's scope. I still find it very amusing that Red vs. Blue beat actual Halo canon to having the MA5's underslung launcher. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 17:33, 17 June 2014 (EDT)


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:It might be that the Chief is accessing files that he shouldn't. I've felt that 343i is getting ready for a massive shift for a while now, where John actually goes up against ONI, if not the whole UNSC - Halsey's been thoroughly alienated, though I doubt her goals for the preservation of humanity have changed even in the hands of Jul 'Mdama; Cortana, his moral compass, is no longer in play; his newfound confidence in defying bad orders from superior officers, starting in First Strike and culminating in Halo 4; and ONIs actions have been getting less justifiable as being in defence of humanity. It might be that the Chief has set out to ''save'' the Arbiter from an ONI assassination, and that it's this act which forces ONI to send Locke to bring him in.
:It might be that the Chief is accessing files that he shouldn't. I've felt that 343i is getting ready for a massive shift for a while now, where John actually goes up against ONI, if not the whole UNSC - Halsey's been thoroughly alienated, though I doubt her goals for the preservation of humanity have changed even in the hands of Jul 'Mdama; Cortana, his moral compass, is no longer in play; his newfound confidence in defying bad orders from superior officers, starting in First Strike and culminating in Halo 4; and ONIs actions have been getting less justifiable as being in defence of humanity. It might be that the Chief has set out to ''save'' the Arbiter from an ONI assassination, and that it's this act which forces ONI to send Locke to bring him in.
:I am also glad they're describing them as actual, genuine friends. I can't think of two less likely friendships - the supreme commander who glassed Reach, and the Spartan who cut through the Covenant like a hot knife through butter. But it's also one that, in this weird and crazy universe, I can see working out - a mutual, if grudging, respect between soldiers and a shared enemy in the Prophets and those Elites who refuse to lay down arms. On the other hand, I'm not sure what they're hinting with the Arbiter - that he's done things that will change our mind about the Arbiter? -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:42, 6 July 2014 (EDT)
:I am also glad they're describing them as actual, genuine friends. I can't think of two less likely friendships - the supreme commander who glassed Reach, and the Spartan who cut through the Covenant like a hot knife through butter. But it's also one that, in this weird and crazy universe, I can see working out - a mutual, if grudging, respect between soldiers and a shared enemy in the Prophets and those Elites who refuse to lay down arms. On the other hand, I'm not sure what they're hinting with the Arbiter - that he's done things that will change our mind about the Arbiter? -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:42, 6 July 2014 (EDT)


::That's the same lines I've thought I've had, and yeah, not sure what they're hinting at about Arbiter either. To me, it sounded more like a regretful "what have I done?" rather than a "I'm doing evil things that Chief wouldn't be happy about". It can't be something about his past either, I can't imagine anything Thel could have done during the war that would change Chief's opinion of him, I mean, Chief's a Spartan will at that entails. Obviously it could be something completely new, but if it's something existing, could it be his working with ONI? A couple other things about trailer, two of the frames are very interesting, one of an Elite in some unknown armour with a jetpack (a Ranger?) jumping into a snowy place, and the other is a group and (maybe?) Covenant on a Forerunner structure with a Keyship in the background. Also, it looks like the city battle later is the schism on High Charity; near the end you can see the leg of a Keyship on the right side. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 14:53, 6 July 2014 (EDT)
::That's the same lines I've thought I've had, and yeah, not sure what they're hinting at about Arbiter either. To me, it sounded more like a regretful "what have I done?" rather than a "I'm doing evil things that Chief wouldn't be happy about". It can't be something about his past either, I can't imagine anything Thel could have done during the war that would change Chief's opinion of him, I mean, Chief's a Spartan will at that entails. Obviously it could be something completely new, but if it's something existing, could it be his working with ONI? A couple other things about trailer, two of the frames are very interesting, one of an Elite in some unknown armour with a jetpack (a Ranger?) jumping into a snowy place, and the other is a group and (maybe?) Covenant on a Forerunner structure with a Keyship in the background. Also, it looks like the city battle later is the schism on High Charity; near the end you can see the leg of a Keyship on the right side. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 14:53, 6 July 2014 (EDT)
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During the recent 2014 Gamescon Xbox One Panel, during the Halo segment, towards the end of it they briefly showed off some of the weapons. What was shown was the AR, BR, DMR, SMG, Sniper, and what I can only assume is some kind of heavy weapon, but it doesn't look like the rocket launcher we all know and love. Looks more like the AT4, which is a one shot anti tank weapon, but only time will tell what it actually is. However, the one I'm more interested in is the SMG, which most likely means Duel wielding is returning in Halo 5: Guardians. Of course, I could be wrong, and it would function much like the Surpressor, but I really want Duel Wielding back. What do you guys think? Siphon 117 19:10, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
During the recent 2014 Gamescon Xbox One Panel, during the Halo segment, towards the end of it they briefly showed off some of the weapons. What was shown was the AR, BR, DMR, SMG, Sniper, and what I can only assume is some kind of heavy weapon, but it doesn't look like the rocket launcher we all know and love. Looks more like the AT4, which is a one shot anti tank weapon, but only time will tell what it actually is. However, the one I'm more interested in is the SMG, which most likely means Duel wielding is returning in Halo 5: Guardians. Of course, I could be wrong, and it would function much like the Surpressor, but I really want Duel Wielding back. What do you guys think? Siphon 117 19:10, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
:I would love for dual wielding to return, but I think 343i said it is too difficult to balance and, as of now, it isn't in ''Halo 5''. So I'm thinking to balance the SMG, it will be some M7 variant. I think it will be like the Suppressor; does little damage at distances, but very deadly in close-quarters combat. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 19:33, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
:I would love for dual wielding to return, but I think 343i said it is too difficult to balance and, as of now, it isn't in ''Halo 5''. So I'm thinking to balance the SMG, it will be some M7 variant. I think it will be like the Suppressor; does little damage at distances, but very deadly in close-quarters combat. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 19:33, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
:Very interested in that rocket launcher. I know Halo 1 was originally planned to have a single-tube rocket launcher as well as the M41, but that it got dropped. It wouldn't be the first time a weapon cut from the original game made it into a later one - the flamethrower made it into Halo PC and Halo 3, and the gravity rifle got retooled into the beam rifle. The new assault rifle is giving me a pretty gnarly M41A Pulse Rifle vibe, which is neat. I've also seen some worries that the BR with iron sights represents adoption of a CoD aim style, but I'm hoping it just represents a way to functionally differentiate the BR and DMR in terms of gameplay. Just because a weapon has iron sights doesn't mean Chief has to use them. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:38, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
:Very interested in that rocket launcher. I know Halo 1 was originally planned to have a single-tube rocket launcher as well as the M41, but that it got dropped. It wouldn't be the first time a weapon cut from the original game made it into a later one - the flamethrower made it into Halo PC and Halo 3, and the gravity rifle got retooled into the beam rifle. The new assault rifle is giving me a pretty gnarly M41A Pulse Rifle vibe, which is neat. I've also seen some worries that the BR with iron sights represents adoption of a CoD aim style, but I'm hoping it just represents a way to functionally differentiate the BR and DMR in terms of gameplay. Just because a weapon has iron sights doesn't mean Chief has to use them. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:38, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
::I seriously doubt standard FPS aiming will be added, if anything that trailer emphasized that they're going back on some of the more controversial changes in 4 (like Loadouts). And while I'm not sure how it would work with everyone starting with the same stuff, it ''looks'' like we might see weapon customization. The M7 looks like it has a small rail for optics over the front sight as well as a side rail near the front, and the MA5D and BR85 both added a side rail as well; oddly the M395 doesn't have one. The BR's red dot sight is interesting, and it and the DMR's scope are both rail-mounted. What was the MA5D's fire selector in Halo 4 is now something else (I see "IR" as one setting), and there's a new fire selector added to the rear and below, in a much more practical position. The BR85 actually has a flash hider now, and one that would cause the four-way muzzle flash it has too. Most interestingly, the M7 has a charging handle on both sides, and given that we've gone back to proper reload animations after ODST, we'll actually be using it for the first time! That said, it looks like we don't have the side magazine anymore; I would assume it's in the pistol grip, though that said, every M7 looks like it has a pistol grip mag. That rocket launcher looks suspiciously like an AA launcher, we'll see. I'm definitely happy 343 realized that not having the SMG made for a broken human weapon sandbox, and even just showing the AR/BR/SMG/DMR together like they were in the trailer is rather reassuring. There are still five weapon in the Beta that weren't shown in the trailer, though one can be assumed to be the M6, and probably the Shotgun (I wonder if the reload animation will finally be fixed) and Plasma Pistol too. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 00:36, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
::I seriously doubt standard FPS aiming will be added, if anything that trailer emphasized that they're going back on some of the more controversial changes in 4 (like Loadouts). And while I'm not sure how it would work with everyone starting with the same stuff, it ''looks'' like we might see weapon customization. The M7 looks like it has a small rail for optics over the front sight as well as a side rail near the front, and the MA5D and BR85 both added a side rail as well; oddly the M395 doesn't have one. The BR's red dot sight is interesting, and it and the DMR's scope are both rail-mounted. What was the MA5D's fire selector in Halo 4 is now something else (I see "IR" as one setting), and there's a new fire selector added to the rear and below, in a much more practical position. The BR85 actually has a flash hider now, and one that would cause the four-way muzzle flash it has too. Most interestingly, the M7 has a charging handle on both sides, and given that we've gone back to proper reload animations after ODST, we'll actually be using it for the first time! That said, it looks like we don't have the side magazine anymore; I would assume it's in the pistol grip, though that said, every M7 looks like it has a pistol grip mag. That rocket launcher looks suspiciously like an AA launcher, we'll see. I'm definitely happy 343 realized that not having the SMG made for a broken human weapon sandbox, and even just showing the AR/BR/SMG/DMR together like they were in the trailer is rather reassuring. There are still five weapon in the Beta that weren't shown in the trailer, though one can be assumed to be the M6, and probably the Shotgun (I wonder if the reload animation will finally be fixed) and Plasma Pistol too. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 00:36, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
:After taking a good long look at the unidentified rocket launcher, I've come to the conclusion that its not a rocket launcher. About mid ways on the weapon, is what looks like a magazine mounted on the top at an angle. It looks more to me that rather than a one shot rocket launcher, as previously thought, but rather a multi shot, micro missile launcher. At least, that would make sense in my mind, anyway, due to the fact that there's a magazine mounted on, it. And I know its not the target sight, as that is below the magazine. Any thoughts? Here's a picture #REDIRECT [[http://www.halopedia.org/File:Halo5_Rocket.png]] Siphon 117 14:45, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
:After taking a good long look at the unidentified rocket launcher, I've come to the conclusion that its not a rocket launcher. About mid ways on the weapon, is what looks like a magazine mounted on the top at an angle. It looks more to me that rather than a one shot rocket launcher, as previously thought, but rather a multi shot, micro missile launcher. At least, that would make sense in my mind, anyway, due to the fact that there's a magazine mounted on, it. And I know its not the target sight, as that is below the magazine. Any thoughts? Here's a picture #REDIRECT [[http://www.halopedia.org/File:Halo5_Rocket.png]] Siphon 117 14:45, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
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I guess I just automatically went with an SAW Type weapon. I guess it could be a Multi-Shot Railgun, or even Lock-On Micro Missle-firing weapon. I guess the magazine in top just confused me a lot. Its just so weird. Cheers, [[Special:Contributions/76.17.73.143|76.17.73.143]] 20:36, 22 August 2014 (EDT)
I guess I just automatically went with an SAW Type weapon. I guess it could be a Multi-Shot Railgun, or even Lock-On Micro Missle-firing weapon. I guess the magazine in top just confused me a lot. Its just so weird. Cheers, [[Special:Contributions/76.17.73.143|76.17.73.143]] 20:36, 22 August 2014 (EDT)


:I would bet that it's a one-shot missile launcher with a very accurate lock-on, supplementing a non-tracking double-barrelled rocket launcher, separating the two roles again. Halo 3 tried to separate the two niches with its missile launcher as a heavy weapon, but I don't think that was a great success. This seems a better way to go - make it another first-person power weapon, but visually and functionally distinct. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:59, 24 August 2014 (EDT)
:I would bet that it's a one-shot missile launcher with a very accurate lock-on, supplementing a non-tracking double-barrelled rocket launcher, separating the two roles again. Halo 3 tried to separate the two niches with its missile launcher as a heavy weapon, but I don't think that was a great success. This seems a better way to go - make it another first-person power weapon, but visually and functionally distinct. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:59, 24 August 2014 (EDT)


I'm not liking the reflex sight on the [[:File:Halo5 BR.png|br]] mainly because it's making me fear for the addition of ADS from other shooters. If Halo steps down that road, the series will once again be headed in the wrong direction. Then that rocket launcher looking weapon just doesn't look futuristic to me let-alone the "new" SMG. Basically, imo these designs seem like a step down from the previous games. Now as far as what the rocket launcher does, I don't know. But a one-shot fire & forget missile or micro-missile launcher would be interesting.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 08:29, 24 August 2014 (EDT)
I'm not liking the reflex sight on the [[:File:Halo5 BR.png|br]] mainly because it's making me fear for the addition of ADS from other shooters. If Halo steps down that road, the series will once again be headed in the wrong direction. Then that rocket launcher looking weapon just doesn't look futuristic to me let-alone the "new" SMG. Basically, imo these designs seem like a step down from the previous games. Now as far as what the rocket launcher does, I don't know. But a one-shot fire & forget missile or micro-missile launcher would be interesting.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 08:29, 24 August 2014 (EDT)
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:The Braille just makes it way more probable. The armor is also very similar, so I have hope. It would be awesome if Fred and the rest of Blue Team was in ''Guardians'', possibly working with Locke or John. I'm really hoping they aren't killed off in ''Escalation'' like Team Black was though. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 20:48, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
:The Braille just makes it way more probable. The armor is also very similar, so I have hope. It would be awesome if Fred and the rest of Blue Team was in ''Guardians'', possibly working with Locke or John. I'm really hoping they aren't killed off in ''Escalation'' like Team Black was though. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 20:48, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
::The way I see it is they've pretty much confirmed Fred makes it off Installation 03 at least. I'm sure Kelly and Linda will too.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 20:50, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
::The way I see it is they've pretty much confirmed Fred makes it off Installation 03 at least. I'm sure Kelly and Linda will too.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 20:50, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
:::I'm still paranoid that they'll kill off Blue Team to make John's story have more pathos and personal impact. I hope they don't. I ''really'' hope they don't. But if Blue Team appeared in Halo 5, in a significant role, I think I would starve myself for a few months to buy an Xbox One and Halo 5. Ideally, they'd fill the "chatter" roles that need to be filled - the significant speaking parts that fill in the story as you play, provide banter, and provide objectives and stakes as you play. Now that Cortana's gone (for now) and the fans didn't react as well as 343i had hoped to Palmer and her Spartans, bringing in Blue Team to fill those parts makes sense. It especially appeals to long-term fans who know that these are people the Master Chief's sense of identity is heavily invested in. Not to mention, I still want to know how John and Fred deal with Fred's promotion. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:25, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
:::I'm still paranoid that they'll kill off Blue Team to make John's story have more pathos and personal impact. I hope they don't. I ''really'' hope they don't. But if Blue Team appeared in Halo 5, in a significant role, I think I would starve myself for a few months to buy an Xbox One and Halo 5. Ideally, they'd fill the "chatter" roles that need to be filled - the significant speaking parts that fill in the story as you play, provide banter, and provide objectives and stakes as you play. Now that Cortana's gone (for now) and the fans didn't react as well as 343i had hoped to Palmer and her Spartans, bringing in Blue Team to fill those parts makes sense. It especially appeals to long-term fans who know that these are people the Master Chief's sense of identity is heavily invested in. Not to mention, I still want to know how John and Fred deal with Fred's promotion. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:25, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
::::I think you can relax a little. I'm sure what you said will probably happen. Then we can have that Regular Show battle in Halo 7 >:D [[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 21:31, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
::::I think you can relax a little. I'm sure what you said will probably happen. Then we can have that Regular Show battle in Halo 7 >:D [[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 21:31, 12 August 2014 (EDT)


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:::::I definitely agree on the Forerunner style; I think one of the best examples of an art style I absolutely love vs the more modern is Valhalla vs Ragnarok. I recall reading somewhere that the pictures of the Guardians armour we have right now are the "factory standard" models if you will, and they'll get scuff marks, scrapes, and other "used" aesthetic features applied to them later. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 17:48, 19 November 2014 (EST)
:::::I definitely agree on the Forerunner style; I think one of the best examples of an art style I absolutely love vs the more modern is Valhalla vs Ragnarok. I recall reading somewhere that the pictures of the Guardians armour we have right now are the "factory standard" models if you will, and they'll get scuff marks, scrapes, and other "used" aesthetic features applied to them later. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 17:48, 19 November 2014 (EST)


:::Yeah, I feel like Halo 3 had a great art style in most areas. It felt very true to what Halo is supposed to be: distinct styles between the different factions. Definitely the worst-looking Spartan armor textures, though. They looked like shiny plastic toys. Halo 2 and Reach probably had the best armor textures, since they looked really beat up and metallic, though Reach's armor colors were too saturated for my tastes. Halo 4's armor definitely got on my nerves with how exaggerated and non-UNSC-looking most of them were. Very few of Halo 4's armors stayed true to the image of UNSC hardware (especially looking at you, [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Venator|Venator]], [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Pioneer|Pioneer]], and [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Wetwork|Wetwork]]). I'm also not digging some of the weapon design choices in Halo 5 that we've seen so far. The BR's reflex sight is just so out of place and ugly (not to mention the whole redundancy of looking through the sight). It actually looks kind of Covenant with the curved "horns". The DMR's new sight is also pretty ugly, since it looks like some kind of CRT monitor, and the SMG's reflex sight makes it look kinda like a grenade launcher. I also don't like the look of the Hydra. Again, it doesn't really give me a UNSC vibe. It looks like something straight out of Titanfall. However I will say that the Forerunner art direction in Halo 4 was by far the greatest of any Halo game, hands down, and it's probably my favorite artwork in any video game ever. Hopefully retaining this style for Halo 5.--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 13:47, 25 January 2015 (EST)
:::Yeah, I feel like Halo 3 had a great art style in most areas. It felt very true to what Halo is supposed to be: distinct styles between the different factions. Definitely the worst-looking Spartan armor textures, though. They looked like shiny plastic toys. Halo 2 and Reach probably had the best armor textures, since they looked really beat up and metallic, though Reach's armor colors were too saturated for my tastes. Halo 4's armor definitely got on my nerves with how exaggerated and non-UNSC-looking most of them were. Very few of Halo 4's armors stayed true to the image of UNSC hardware (especially looking at you, [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Venator|Venator]], [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Pioneer|Pioneer]], and [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Wetwork|Wetwork]]). I'm also not digging some of the weapon design choices in Halo 5 that we've seen so far. The BR's reflex sight is just so out of place and ugly (not to mention the whole redundancy of looking through the sight). It actually looks kind of Covenant with the curved "horns". The DMR's new sight is also pretty ugly, since it looks like some kind of CRT monitor, and the SMG's reflex sight makes it look kinda like a grenade launcher. I also don't like the look of the Hydra. Again, it doesn't really give me a UNSC vibe. It looks like something straight out of Titanfall. However I will say that the Forerunner art direction in Halo 4 was by far the greatest of any Halo game, hands down, and it's probably my favorite artwork in any video game ever. Hopefully retaining this style for Halo 5.--''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 13:47, 25 January 2015 (EST)


==Halo 5 Beta BTS==
==Halo 5 Beta BTS==
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:I think you're not using the word online right.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 19:58, 19 November 2014 (EST)
:I think you're not using the word online right.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 19:58, 19 November 2014 (EST)


:Halo hasn't ported one of its AAA games since Halo 2, so personally, I doubt it. Besides, they want to boost sales of their new console through their flagship game series, so releasing it for PC at the same time or near would be counter-productive to that. In the long run, who knows? -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:01, 19 November 2014 (EST)
:Halo hasn't ported one of its AAA games since Halo 2, so personally, I doubt it. Besides, they want to boost sales of their new console through their flagship game series, so releasing it for PC at the same time or near would be counter-productive to that. In the long run, who knows? -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:01, 19 November 2014 (EST)


== Balistic weaponry thats looks futuristic  ==
== Balistic weaponry thats looks futuristic  ==
Its good to see this many of the ballistic weapons that unsc have might be more advanced then 21st century but they still operate the same way as they do in the 21century this actually feels like a weapon that they would be using in the 26 century from a ballistics point of view and the railgun as well I know but just that we should have guns that operate more like the needler and this is definietly a step in that direction :){{unsigned|‎Spartan Matt}}
Its good to see this many of the ballistic weapons that unsc have might be more advanced then 21st century but they still operate the same way as they do in the 21century this actually feels like a weapon that they would be using in the 26 century from a ballistics point of view and the railgun as well I know but just that we should have guns that operate more like the needler and this is definietly a step in that direction :){{unsigned|Spartan Matt}}


== Beta ==
== Beta ==
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==Are Pegasus and Orion set on different "remixed" Forge maps?==
==Are Pegasus and Orion set on different "remixed" Forge maps?==
As in, the base maps themselves are considered different maps? Every map in the Beta featured a "remixed" counterpart, which may be something that every map will have in the full game. If so, I think the Forge maps that Pegasus and Orion are set on could be considered remixed counterparts. I haven't noticed anything in the layout of the actual surroundings that would be different (from the short time I was able to observe these maps), but the times of day are different, with Pegasus in the daytime and Orion at sunset. Now, it could just be that this is still the same map but you can somehow change the time of day for it (possibly with something like the Filter FX objects or just a setting in the pause menu). Also, if they are remixed maps, do you think Pegasus and Orion are the names of the base maps themselves?--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 13:25, 25 January 2015 (EST)
As in, the base maps themselves are considered different maps? Every map in the Beta featured a "remixed" counterpart, which may be something that every map will have in the full game. If so, I think the Forge maps that Pegasus and Orion are set on could be considered remixed counterparts. I haven't noticed anything in the layout of the actual surroundings that would be different (from the short time I was able to observe these maps), but the times of day are different, with Pegasus in the daytime and Orion at sunset. Now, it could just be that this is still the same map but you can somehow change the time of day for it (possibly with something like the Filter FX objects or just a setting in the pause menu). Also, if they are remixed maps, do you think Pegasus and Orion are the names of the base maps themselves?--''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 13:25, 25 January 2015 (EST)


==New Covenant ships==
==New Covenant ships==
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::::::I doubt it's the Didact.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 14:59, 17 February 2015 (EST)
::::::I doubt it's the Didact.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 14:59, 17 February 2015 (EST)


:Looking at the figure next to the "Forerunner" object, it definitely looks reminiscent of the Didact - silver armour, orange highlights. It might not be the Didact, but I'm guessing it will be. The tank looks like a modified Scorpion. It might represent an updated variant? And I would love for the Vulture to be playable, or at least present, in Halo 5, but my biggest want from Halo Wars is the Locust. Imagine that stomping around multiplayer, plasma cannon blasting away at Spartans hiding behind cover as a Scorpion rolls up to deal with it. It would provide some gameplay variety from the Scorpion or Wraith while filling a similar, but slightly different role. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:10, 17 February 2015 (EST)
:Looking at the figure next to the "Forerunner" object, it definitely looks reminiscent of the Didact - silver armour, orange highlights. It might not be the Didact, but I'm guessing it will be. The tank looks like a modified Scorpion. It might represent an updated variant? And I would love for the Vulture to be playable, or at least present, in Halo 5, but my biggest want from Halo Wars is the Locust. Imagine that stomping around multiplayer, plasma cannon blasting away at Spartans hiding behind cover as a Scorpion rolls up to deal with it. It would provide some gameplay variety from the Scorpion or Wraith while filling a similar, but slightly different role. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:10, 17 February 2015 (EST)
::The Locust would be a great add being like a giant Focus Rifle. I still like my idea for the Cobra acting as a reverse Scorpion, driver gets machine gun and gunner gets cannon. And I still don't think it's the Didact. I don't think his new form would be smaller.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 18:35, 17 February 2015 (EST)
::The Locust would be a great add being like a giant Focus Rifle. I still like my idea for the Cobra acting as a reverse Scorpion, driver gets machine gun and gunner gets cannon. And I still don't think it's the Didact. I don't think his new form would be smaller.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 18:35, 17 February 2015 (EST)


[http://news.xbox.com/2015/02/games-halo-nyc-toy-fair-2015 In other news] it's been confirmed the ship is Promethean. Called the Promethean [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaeton_(carriage) Phaeton] Gunship and that it will be in H5G. The only odd thing is calling the tank a Scorpion after we just got told it's not a Scorpion. So my money is with Morhek here that it's just a new Scorpion variant.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 18:41, 17 February 2015 (EST)
[http://news.xbox.com/2015/02/games-halo-nyc-toy-fair-2015 In other news] it's been confirmed the ship is Promethean. Called the Promethean [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaeton_(carriage) Phaeton] Gunship and that it will be in H5G. The only odd thing is calling the tank a Scorpion after we just got told it's not a Scorpion. So my money is with Morhek here that it's just a new Scorpion variant.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 18:41, 17 February 2015 (EST)


:I like the name, going with Greco-Roman themes to differentiate them from human or Covenant machines. And regarding the Didact - are these minifigs to scale? Elites are quite a bit taller than even a Spartan-II, yet they seem approximately the same size in minifig form. I imagine the to-scale form of the Didact will still be quite a bit bigger. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:39, 17 February 2015 (EST)
:I like the name, going with Greco-Roman themes to differentiate them from human or Covenant machines. And regarding the Didact - are these minifigs to scale? Elites are quite a bit taller than even a Spartan-II, yet they seem approximately the same size in minifig form. I imagine the to-scale form of the Didact will still be quite a bit bigger. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:39, 17 February 2015 (EST)
::The Didact minifig that came with the Broadsword set was pretty big. I'm putting this minifig down as a new kind of Promethean, possibly one meant for piloting vehicles.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 21:35, 17 February 2015 (EST)
::The Didact minifig that came with the Broadsword set was pretty big. I'm putting this minifig down as a new kind of Promethean, possibly one meant for piloting vehicles.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 21:35, 17 February 2015 (EST)


To add to the confusion not only is the Scorpion not a Scorpion, but the Banshee is not a Banshee. [https://twitter.com/HaloFanForLife/status/567888336850939904 Sauce].[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 22:41, 17 February 2015 (EST)
To add to the confusion not only is the Scorpion not a Scorpion, but the Banshee is not a Banshee. [https://twitter.com/HaloFanForLife/status/567888336850939904 Sauce].[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 22:41, 17 February 2015 (EST)


:Either the Mega Bloks sales rep was confused about what he was talking about, or that is just confusingly weird. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck,and swims like a duck, you don't shrug and say it's called something else unless the definition of "duck" has changed, which is a possibility I can't rule out with 343. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:10, 18 February 2015 (EST)
:Either the Mega Bloks sales rep was confused about what he was talking about, or that is just confusingly weird. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck,and swims like a duck, you don't shrug and say it's called something else unless the definition of "duck" has changed, which is a possibility I can't rule out with 343. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:10, 18 February 2015 (EST)


::I think the Xbox.com communiqué should be enough to create an article for the Phaeton. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 05:26, 18 February 2015 (EST)
::I think the Xbox.com communiqué should be enough to create an article for the Phaeton. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 05:26, 18 February 2015 (EST)
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:For me, everything points to Buck being the one in the ODST helmet. His request at the end of ''[[Halo: New Blood]]'' - to join a new team, but not to lead it - was some pretty blatant foreshadowing. I'm not so sure about Romeo, though. His signature weapon is a sniper rifle, yet unlike Linda, none of Locke's team is carrying one. Also, the way Buck and Romeo silently went to their own quarters at the end of the story leads me to think they might be looking for some time away from each other; though maybe I'm looking too much into that.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 20:21, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
:For me, everything points to Buck being the one in the ODST helmet. His request at the end of ''[[Halo: New Blood]]'' - to join a new team, but not to lead it - was some pretty blatant foreshadowing. I'm not so sure about Romeo, though. His signature weapon is a sniper rifle, yet unlike Linda, none of Locke's team is carrying one. Also, the way Buck and Romeo silently went to their own quarters at the end of the story leads me to think they might be looking for some time away from each other; though maybe I'm looking too much into that.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 20:21, 28 April 2015 (EDT)


::Agreed. If Buck's in it, then Romeo probably won't be. As for the rest, my guess is also Holly over Macer, and then I thought it might be a character from the Traviss books - Mike Spenser, perhaps, or Evan Phillips, people who can directly engage with the Sangheili on their own terms, a skill that might be useful in Covenant territory. Ten again, the Spartan in the Elite-made variant seems to be female, so that might rule Phillips and Spenser out. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:29, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
::Agreed. If Buck's in it, then Romeo probably won't be. As for the rest, my guess is also Holly over Macer, and then I thought it might be a character from the Traviss books - Mike Spenser, perhaps, or Evan Phillips, people who can directly engage with the Sangheili on their own terms, a skill that might be useful in Covenant territory. Ten again, the Spartan in the Elite-made variant seems to be female, so that might rule Phillips and Spenser out. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:29, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
::Edit: Locke's team has just made me realize something I hadn't - Halo 4, you couldn't tell the stories of characters by their armour. They lost that visual quality.
::Edit: Locke's team has just made me realize something I hadn't - Halo 4, you couldn't tell the stories of characters by their armour. They lost that visual quality.
::Every member of Noble team had their own visual quirks. Kat with the robot arm. Jorge with his sheer size. Emile with the faceplate and the kukri. Jun with the sniper getup. And Carter just looked stoic, immediately telling you he was a leader. The patchwork makeup of the armour itself also told you these were an unconventional unit. Even with the current Blue Team, you can visually tell what role each roughly fills - Chief as leader, Linda as the sniper, Kelly with her distinctive EVA helmet as the scout/runner, and Fred as the solid all-rounder. You can do that with Locke's team, too - you can imagine the stories. We all expect the guy in ODST armour to be an ODST (hopefully a specific one). The one in Helioskrill wearer could be an interpreter, a go-between. Even the one in the Recruit armour looks like they have a story to them. Whereas with Majestic, I couldn't tell what the armour choices represented, and the uniform blue further stripped them of individuality.
::Every member of Noble team had their own visual quirks. Kat with the robot arm. Jorge with his sheer size. Emile with the faceplate and the kukri. Jun with the sniper getup. And Carter just looked stoic, immediately telling you he was a leader. The patchwork makeup of the armour itself also told you these were an unconventional unit. Even with the current Blue Team, you can visually tell what role each roughly fills - Chief as leader, Linda as the sniper, Kelly with her distinctive EVA helmet as the scout/runner, and Fred as the solid all-rounder. You can do that with Locke's team, too - you can imagine the stories. We all expect the guy in ODST armour to be an ODST (hopefully a specific one). The one in Helioskrill wearer could be an interpreter, a go-between. Even the one in the Recruit armour looks like they have a story to them. Whereas with Majestic, I couldn't tell what the armour choices represented, and the uniform blue further stripped them of individuality.
::I like it. I hope they keep it up. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:16, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
::I like it. I hope they keep it up. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:16, 28 April 2015 (EDT)


Anyone else think that Tanaka's model looks too bulky to be female? Also, I guess this means that the red one is almost definitely Macer, and that Buck and Romeo did go their separate ways, assuming the ODST is one of them. [[Special:Contributions/82.27.24.49|82.27.24.49]] 11:44, 30 May 2015 (EDT)
Anyone else think that Tanaka's model looks too bulky to be female? Also, I guess this means that the red one is almost definitely Macer, and that Buck and Romeo did go their separate ways, assuming the ODST is one of them. [[Special:Contributions/82.27.24.49|82.27.24.49]] 11:44, 30 May 2015 (EDT)


:It's super-advanced powered armour, worn my a surgically and cybernetically enhanced person. The bulk is probably just the armour itself, rather than a product of the shape of the wearer. People apparently had trouble telling Spartan IIs apart in Mark IV and V armour, so I find it entirely plausible. I thought it might belong to a woman before Tanaka was confirmed, but I wasn't sure. Nice to see 343 not making a big deal out of that. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:57, 30 May 2015 (EDT)
:It's super-advanced powered armour, worn my a surgically and cybernetically enhanced person. The bulk is probably just the armour itself, rather than a product of the shape of the wearer. People apparently had trouble telling Spartan IIs apart in Mark IV and V armour, so I find it entirely plausible. I thought it might belong to a woman before Tanaka was confirmed, but I wasn't sure. Nice to see 343 not making a big deal out of that. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:57, 30 May 2015 (EDT)


:Women come in all shapes and sizes. That's true for all of us from couch potatoes to supersoldiers. Spartans of various genders don't have cookie cutter physiques outside of those that we personally create. Holly's armor is a breath of fresh air. With the exception of earlier SPARTAN-II depictions, Spartan women have always been seen wearing bare-bones, contoured armor with little extra functionality compared to their male counterparts. This new Spartan wears a suit that breaks that mold entirely. {{User:Helianthus/Sig}}
:Women come in all shapes and sizes. That's true for all of us from couch potatoes to supersoldiers. Spartans of various genders don't have cookie cutter physiques outside of those that we personally create. Holly's armor is a breath of fresh air. With the exception of earlier SPARTAN-II depictions, Spartan women have always been seen wearing bare-bones, contoured armor with little extra functionality compared to their male counterparts. This new Spartan wears a suit that breaks that mold entirely. {{User:Helianthus/Sig}}
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:And speaking of Cortana, I'm also excited to see the Chief dealing with the fallout of her "death," and the idea that Blue can take up the slack. I don't expect her to be dead for long - if she stays dead until at most Halo 6, I will be very surprised. But it's nice to see the original Spartans get their time to shine.
:And speaking of Cortana, I'm also excited to see the Chief dealing with the fallout of her "death," and the idea that Blue can take up the slack. I don't expect her to be dead for long - if she stays dead until at most Halo 6, I will be very surprised. But it's nice to see the original Spartans get their time to shine.
:As for the new Spartans...we knew it was coming, but god DAMN does it feel good to KNOW Buck is ready to drop feet first into Halo 5 along with us. And Tanaka seems like she's a really interesting character, and we'll be getting a look at Olympia's character with Hunters in the Dark. I'm surprised by the diversity in the game - you have a 50/50 gender split which is great, plus Locke and Tanaka, one black and the other mixed-race black/asian.
:As for the new Spartans...we knew it was coming, but god DAMN does it feel good to KNOW Buck is ready to drop feet first into Halo 5 along with us. And Tanaka seems like she's a really interesting character, and we'll be getting a look at Olympia's character with Hunters in the Dark. I'm surprised by the diversity in the game - you have a 50/50 gender split which is great, plus Locke and Tanaka, one black and the other mixed-race black/asian.
:Overall, damned impressed, and I just wish I could afford an Xbone in the near future! :c -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:36, 10 June 2015 (EDT)
:Overall, damned impressed, and I just wish I could afford an Xbone in the near future! :c -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:36, 10 June 2015 (EDT)


It still feels very surreal that Blue Team's actually going to appear in a game and stick around with the Chief all the way through. And on top of that Buck's coming back as well. And the Arbiter. Looks like I'm really going to have to get that Xbone after all. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 14:59, 11 June 2015 (EDT)
It still feels very surreal that Blue Team's actually going to appear in a game and stick around with the Chief all the way through. And on top of that Buck's coming back as well. And the Arbiter. Looks like I'm really going to have to get that Xbone after all. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 14:59, 11 June 2015 (EDT)


:It sounds like they're rebalancing the Prometheans nicely. The Knights felt far too big and bulky to replace Elites or Brutes, but they feel nicely placed to occupy a more Hunter-like niche as heavy weapons support and shock troops, leaving the new Soldier class to occupy a smaller, nimbler Elite-like role. The humanoid shape also makes me wonder whether that was a conscious decision to smoothe us into facing enemy Spartans with similar combat behaviour. Whatever the case, I appreciate that reshifting. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:04, 12 June 2015 (EDT)
:It sounds like they're rebalancing the Prometheans nicely. The Knights felt far too big and bulky to replace Elites or Brutes, but they feel nicely placed to occupy a more Hunter-like niche as heavy weapons support and shock troops, leaving the new Soldier class to occupy a smaller, nimbler Elite-like role. The humanoid shape also makes me wonder whether that was a conscious decision to smoothe us into facing enemy Spartans with similar combat behaviour. Whatever the case, I appreciate that reshifting. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:04, 12 June 2015 (EDT)


==The E3ening==
==The E3ening==
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*New weapons - the Phaeton looks like 343i took the lessons from the Pelican in Halo 4, and modified it to be balanced in multiplayer, and I really like the result. It looks visually interesting, fills a different niche to the other aircraft in the game, and doesn't feel too out of place in the Forerunner sandbox. And the plasma caster looks pretty neat, a Covenant equivalent to the Hydra, a mix between the concussion rifle and the plasma launcher. We saw a glimpse of a Forerunner heavy weapon that looks a bit like the UNSC turret, and I look forward to that.
*New weapons - the Phaeton looks like 343i took the lessons from the Pelican in Halo 4, and modified it to be balanced in multiplayer, and I really like the result. It looks visually interesting, fills a different niche to the other aircraft in the game, and doesn't feel too out of place in the Forerunner sandbox. And the plasma caster looks pretty neat, a Covenant equivalent to the Hydra, a mix between the concussion rifle and the plasma launcher. We saw a glimpse of a Forerunner heavy weapon that looks a bit like the UNSC turret, and I look forward to that.
*Wargames looks like it's going to be awesome. I know people have wanted 24 player multiplayer since at least rumours before Halo 3, and the answer was always "it became unbalanced," not to mention throwing in enemy AI and bosses. The Baron Banshee already looks like a cool figure, though I can't help wondering how much of this boss system was influenced by Destiny. Not to say that's a bad thing, just curious. I know people were disappointed Destiny didn't live up to the potential it promised, and it would be pretty ironic if Halo managed to achieve it. Firefight was much missed in Halo 4, and Spartan Ops just wasn't a substitute for it. Hopefully this fills that emptiness in players' hearts!
*Wargames looks like it's going to be awesome. I know people have wanted 24 player multiplayer since at least rumours before Halo 3, and the answer was always "it became unbalanced," not to mention throwing in enemy AI and bosses. The Baron Banshee already looks like a cool figure, though I can't help wondering how much of this boss system was influenced by Destiny. Not to say that's a bad thing, just curious. I know people were disappointed Destiny didn't live up to the potential it promised, and it would be pretty ironic if Halo managed to achieve it. Firefight was much missed in Halo 4, and Spartan Ops just wasn't a substitute for it. Hopefully this fills that emptiness in players' hearts!
So, overall, yes, EXTREMELY hyped, and hopeful that I can manage to get an Xbone before christmas to play it! -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 23:27, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
So, overall, yes, EXTREMELY hyped, and hopeful that I can manage to get an Xbone before christmas to play it! -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 23:27, 15 June 2015 (EDT)


I know right? This is going to be one of the biggest games of the year, I'm sure of it. Just making me more excited for the end of October to get here.Siphon 117 14:36, 16 June 2015 (EDT)
I know right? This is going to be one of the biggest games of the year, I'm sure of it. Just making me more excited for the end of October to get here.Siphon 117 14:36, 16 June 2015 (EDT)
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:Heh, maybe it's a response to the overheating issues tribarrels had in Reach and Halo 4? :P
:Heh, maybe it's a response to the overheating issues tribarrels had in Reach and Halo 4? :P
:Regardless, I actually really like the look. I hope it comes with a corresponding boost in rate of fire, or actually lowers the rate at which it heats to fire longer. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:11, 18 June 2015 (EDT)
:Regardless, I actually really like the look. I hope it comes with a corresponding boost in rate of fire, or actually lowers the rate at which it heats to fire longer. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:11, 18 June 2015 (EDT)


== Sangheili Storm in Thel's faction  ==
== Sangheili Storm in Thel's faction  ==
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Oh and this isn't a "Hate on Halo 5" rant. The game looks so freakin' awesome, based on what I saw from E3. Cannot wait until October. The campaign looks phenomenal and I am really interested in the multiplayer this time around (not usually being much of a multiplayer guy). The ONLY issue I have is the aforementioned problem. Still gonna be Game of the Year for sure! [[User:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|SLiD1nG Pr0Xy]] ([[User talk:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|talk]]) 19:11, 21 June 2015 (EDT)
Oh and this isn't a "Hate on Halo 5" rant. The game looks so freakin' awesome, based on what I saw from E3. Cannot wait until October. The campaign looks phenomenal and I am really interested in the multiplayer this time around (not usually being much of a multiplayer guy). The ONLY issue I have is the aforementioned problem. Still gonna be Game of the Year for sure! [[User:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|SLiD1nG Pr0Xy]] ([[User talk:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|talk]]) 19:11, 21 June 2015 (EDT)


:It irks me, yes, but not to a dealbreaking degree. I'm still where those helmets from Halo 3 came from or went - was that just retconned into being the old Halo 1/2/Reach helmet, or does it still appear in Thel's ranks? Not that I especially liked the look - its predecessor was immeasurably cooler - but some consistency would be nice. I do agree, it would be far better to have Thel's troops wear the Halo 2 Anniversary look, at the very least to differentiate any SoS allies you may have from the Mdama Covenant you face in the game. Which makes me wonder if we WILL have Sangheili allies in the game. I'd like it to be the case, to show that not all the old Covenant are resurgent zealots like Mdama - 343i clearly wants to expand the scale of their universe, and establishing and emphasising the conflict on Sanghelios is a nice way to do that. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:07, 21 June 2015 (EDT)
:It irks me, yes, but not to a dealbreaking degree. I'm still where those helmets from Halo 3 came from or went - was that just retconned into being the old Halo 1/2/Reach helmet, or does it still appear in Thel's ranks? Not that I especially liked the look - its predecessor was immeasurably cooler - but some consistency would be nice. I do agree, it would be far better to have Thel's troops wear the Halo 2 Anniversary look, at the very least to differentiate any SoS allies you may have from the Mdama Covenant you face in the game. Which makes me wonder if we WILL have Sangheili allies in the game. I'd like it to be the case, to show that not all the old Covenant are resurgent zealots like Mdama - 343i clearly wants to expand the scale of their universe, and establishing and emphasising the conflict on Sanghelios is a nice way to do that. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:07, 21 June 2015 (EDT)


::I am also excited at the prospect of having Sangheili on our side in the game. If incorporated well, 343 will have completely changed my opinion on the company (I wasn't too happy with Halo 4). It simply wouldn't make sense to have the SoS and 'Mdama Covenant looking exactly the same, as they are completely different factions. I agree with your opinion of the Halo 3 Sangheili helmet. It was too overly decorative and snazzy-looking. The Halo 1/2/Reach helmet looked more practical for combat situations. I liked the increasing armor complexity with rank though (except for the General armor ''shudders''). Can't wait to see some Covenant-on-Covenant action in Halo 5. I also hope we get some Unggoy and Mgalekgolo support as well. That would help emphasise that Thel's faction dosent consist solely of Sangheili. Given that we have Remnant and Elder Mgalekgolo opponents with unique colorations, it wouldn't be too hard to make a SoS variant. [[User:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|SLiD1nG Pr0Xy]] ([[User talk:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|talk]]) 21:35, 21 June 2015 (EDT)
::I am also excited at the prospect of having Sangheili on our side in the game. If incorporated well, 343 will have completely changed my opinion on the company (I wasn't too happy with Halo 4). It simply wouldn't make sense to have the SoS and 'Mdama Covenant looking exactly the same, as they are completely different factions. I agree with your opinion of the Halo 3 Sangheili helmet. It was too overly decorative and snazzy-looking. The Halo 1/2/Reach helmet looked more practical for combat situations. I liked the increasing armor complexity with rank though (except for the General armor ''shudders''). Can't wait to see some Covenant-on-Covenant action in Halo 5. I also hope we get some Unggoy and Mgalekgolo support as well. That would help emphasise that Thel's faction dosent consist solely of Sangheili. Given that we have Remnant and Elder Mgalekgolo opponents with unique colorations, it wouldn't be too hard to make a SoS variant. [[User:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|SLiD1nG Pr0Xy]] ([[User talk:SLiD1nG Pr0Xy|talk]]) 21:35, 21 June 2015 (EDT)


:::I've heard that you'll have Marine reinforcements periodically during Wargames, so it would be great to get some Arbiter-sent Covenant allies, dropping in via Phantom or in drop pods.-- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:09, 22 June 2015 (EDT)
:::I've heard that you'll have Marine reinforcements periodically during Wargames, so it would be great to get some Arbiter-sent Covenant allies, dropping in via Phantom or in drop pods.-- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:09, 22 June 2015 (EDT)


== Observations thus far (post-E3 2015) ==
== Observations thus far (post-E3 2015) ==
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:I'm more excited about this game's campaign than I was for Halo 4's. As if Blue Team wasn't enough, the way they've created a Spartan-IV team that I can believe are worthy of the name has been impressive. I'd also love a zero-gee section. Something like the EVA level in Dead Space 2 would be really impressive, especially with what you can do with the new thruster gear.  
:I'm more excited about this game's campaign than I was for Halo 4's. As if Blue Team wasn't enough, the way they've created a Spartan-IV team that I can believe are worthy of the name has been impressive. I'd also love a zero-gee section. Something like the EVA level in Dead Space 2 would be really impressive, especially with what you can do with the new thruster gear.  
:I'll admit, split-screen is going to be missed by a lot of people, but I'm assuming they think it's a redundant feature what with Xbox Live removing the need to even GO to a friend's house. And presumably, encouraging people to get their own Xbox to play with their friend is an incentive to buy. Again, I don't like it but I understand it.
:I'll admit, split-screen is going to be missed by a lot of people, but I'm assuming they think it's a redundant feature what with Xbox Live removing the need to even GO to a friend's house. And presumably, encouraging people to get their own Xbox to play with their friend is an incentive to buy. Again, I don't like it but I understand it.
:I am, however, a little perplexed by a couple of additions. The Wraith appears to have lost a lot of mass in its rear, and the new human tank looks too much like the Scorpion to be worth doing, and not enough like the Scorpion to be just a slight update. Not sure what's going on there. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:05, 14 July 2015 (EDT)
:I am, however, a little perplexed by a couple of additions. The Wraith appears to have lost a lot of mass in its rear, and the new human tank looks too much like the Scorpion to be worth doing, and not enough like the Scorpion to be just a slight update. Not sure what's going on there. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:05, 14 July 2015 (EDT)


:Halo 5 has the biggest and baddest battles in Halo thus far, and I don't think Xbone has enough horsepower to display these immense battles on two separate screens on one television. They might be able to add splitscreen for the smaller multiplayer maps, but it being absent in other modes would just make the game look incomplete overall. 343 decided to exchange offline/local play for dedicated servers, which I'm very much okay with. Lag in online co-op campaign was at times a huge problem for me, and I'm extremely happy it's completely gone now. And no more host migrations, thank god. Who doesn't use a internet connection these days?
:Halo 5 has the biggest and baddest battles in Halo thus far, and I don't think Xbone has enough horsepower to display these immense battles on two separate screens on one television. They might be able to add splitscreen for the smaller multiplayer maps, but it being absent in other modes would just make the game look incomplete overall. 343 decided to exchange offline/local play for dedicated servers, which I'm very much okay with. Lag in online co-op campaign was at times a huge problem for me, and I'm extremely happy it's completely gone now. And no more host migrations, thank god. Who doesn't use a internet connection these days?
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What happened to [[REAP-X]]? With [[Siege_bike|all]] [[Quad_walker|of]] [[Kestrel|this]], I expected a lot more of these ideas to make it into Halo 5. Sure we're a little over a month away, and there might be fabulous things hidden in the game that aren't and won't be in the promotionals, but I'm starting to get a little nervous. How do you think Reap X will affect Halo 5?  --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 21:28, 13 September 2015 (EDT)
What happened to REAP-X? With all of this, I expected a lot more of these ideas to make it into Halo 5. Sure we're a little over a month away, and there might be fabulous things hidden in the game that aren't and won't be in the promotionals, but I'm starting to get a little nervous. How do you think Reap X will affect Halo 5?  --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 21:28, 13 September 2015 (EDT)


== Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation ==
== Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation ==
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==Found This In The H5:G Opening Cinematic==
==Found This In The H5:G Opening Cinematic==
Loving the new Sangheili capital ship designs. On that topic, has anyone else noticed [[:File:H5GOC-WTF.jpg|this?]] It appears onscreen for all of 2 seconds, from 1:52 to 1:54, but it looks like a shockingly familiar design (akin to those of 7 other sentient species). Maybe we'll finally get some insight on where it came from in H5:G.{{unsigned|DJenser}}
Loving the new Sangheili capital ship designs. On that topic, has anyone else noticed this? It appears onscreen for all of 2 seconds, from 1:52 to 1:54, but it looks like a shockingly familiar design (akin to those of 7 other sentient species). Maybe we'll finally get some insight on where it came from in H5:G.{{unsigned|DJenser}}


:I don't think it looks much like the Alpha Halo ship. It does, however, look a little like a Watcher with its thrusters folded behind it. Might represent 'Mdama's Covenant adopting some Promethean technology for its own use? Either way, it's a really interesting-looking visual design. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:25, 2 September 2015 (EDT)
:I don't think it looks much like the Alpha Halo ship. It does, however, look a little like a Watcher with its thrusters folded behind it. Might represent 'Mdama's Covenant adopting some Promethean technology for its own use? Either way, it's a really interesting-looking visual design. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:25, 2 September 2015 (EDT)


You see it again later on in the video when the Spartans are impersonating an avalanche. I doubt it is a 7SS ship. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 03:29, 2 September 2015 (EDT)
You see it again later on in the video when the Spartans are impersonating an avalanche. I doubt it is a 7SS ship. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 03:29, 2 September 2015 (EDT)