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You guys have got some of the information on the Elephant a little mistaken. First of all it can't hold a scorpion, a warthog, and 2 mongooses. But instead a scorpion OR a warthog OR two mongooses. Not all 4 but one of the 3. The reason the back is open in the pic at the bottom is because there is a crane that is used to put the vehicles in there. The top may need to be open to insert the vehicles. (Or maybe it is open for the Hornet nobody can be sure) ALL THE INFO I HAVE GIVEN U IS CONFIRMED BY BUNGIE IN THERE UPDATES AND PODCASTS. Some of u refer back to it but you didn't read the articles quite right. READ THEM AGAIN.- RammsteinGunner
You guys have got some of the information on the Elephant a little mistaken. First of all it can't hold a scorpion, a warthog, and 2 mongooses. But instead a scorpion OR a warthog OR two mongooses. Not all 4 but one of the 3. The reason the back is open in the pic at the bottom is because there is a crane that is used to put the vehicles in there. The top may need to be open to insert the vehicles. (Or maybe it is open for the Hornet nobody can be sure) ALL THE INFO I HAVE GIVEN U IS CONFIRMED BY BUNGIE IN THERE UPDATES AND PODCASTS. Some of u refer back to it but you didn't read the articles quite right. READ THEM AGAIN.- RammsteinGunner


Sounds like this thing is going to be good. Also sounds like we'll probably be able to drive the [[Scarab]] thing. --[[Image:Final Goji.jpg|30px]] [[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 23:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Sounds like this thing is going to be good. Also sounds like we'll probably be able to drive the Scarab thing. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland</font>]][[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 23:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


I have discovered that the original concept for the Elephant was a toy that was actually released in the 1990's. I will attempt to post a picture of it when I can -- RadicalEdward2
I have discovered that the original concept for the Elephant was a toy that was actually released in the 1990's. I will attempt to post a picture of it when I can -- RadicalEdward2


Is this going to be the UNSC's answer to the scarab? [[Image:Marine Corp CPL.JPG|30px]][[Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/A Company|<font color="black">'''Cpl.'''</font>]] [[User:Simon_rjh|'''simon''']] [[User_talk:Simon_rjh|<font color="red">'''rj'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<font color="green">'''h'''</font>]][[Image:rjh.jpg|30px]] 17:49, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Is this going to be the UNSC's answer to the scarab? UoH/A Company|<font color="black">'''Cpl.'''</font>]] [[User:Simon_rjh|'''simon''']] [[User_talk:Simon_rjh|<font color="red">'''rj'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<font color="green">'''h'''</font>]] 17:49, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


Isn't that obvious?
Isn't that obvious?
[[User:Spartan-007|Spartan-G007]] [[Image:kpisalasergod2.gif|35px]] <sup>[http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=SpartanG007 <font color=green>XBL gamertag:SpartanG007</font>]</sup>
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Not to me... [[Image:Marine Corp CPL.JPG|30px]][[Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/A Company|<font color="black">'''Cpl.'''</font>]] [[User:Simon_rjh|'''simon''']] [[User_talk:Simon_rjh|<font color="red">'''rj'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<font color="green">'''h'''</font>]][[Image:rjh.jpg|30px]] 09:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Not to me... UoH/A Company|<font color="black">'''Cpl.'''</font>]] [[User:Simon_rjh|'''simon''']] [[User_talk:Simon_rjh|<font color="red">'''rj'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<font color="green">'''h'''</font>]] 09:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


Oh wait it says it is in the article. [[Image:Marine Corp CPL.JPG|30px]][[Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/A Company|<font color="black">'''Cpl.'''</font>]] [[User:Simon_rjh|'''simon''']] [[User_talk:Simon_rjh|<font color="red">'''rj'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<font color="green">'''h'''</font>]][[Image:rjh.jpg|30px]] 09:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Oh wait it says it is in the article. UoH/A Company|<font color="black">'''Cpl.'''</font>]] [[User:Simon_rjh|'''simon''']] [[User_talk:Simon_rjh|<font color="red">'''rj'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<font color="green">'''h'''</font>]] 09:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)


By what it says in the specifications, it sounds more like the opposite of a Covenant Shadow. [[User:HarryButtkiss|HarryButtkiss]] 15:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
By what it says in the specifications, it sounds more like the opposite of a Covenant Shadow. [[User:HarryButtkiss|HarryButtkiss]] 15:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
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In the the article it says: This drivable vehicle appears to be like a mobile base: twelve soldiers can ride in it. Where did the information of it housing twelve players come from? Because if it's true then that could be indicative of 12v12 multiplayer matches.
In the the article it says: This drivable vehicle appears to be like a mobile base: twelve soldiers can ride in it. Where did the information of it housing twelve players come from? Because if it's true then that could be indicative of 12v12 multiplayer matches.


The recent Bungie Weekly Update (08-11-2007) stated that it can hold a Scorpion and two Mongooses.[[User:72.190.59.217|72.190.59.217]] 05:35, 11 August 2007 (UTC)and all the players from both teams[[User:Spartan-007|Spartan-G007]] [[Image:kpisalasergod2.gif|35px]] <sup>[http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=SpartanG007 <font color=green>XBL gamertag:SpartanG007</font>]</sup>
The recent Bungie Weekly Update (08-11-2007) stated that it can hold a Scorpion and two Mongooses.[[User:72.190.59.217|72.190.59.217]] 05:35, 11 August 2007 (UTC)and all the players from both teams[[User:Spartan-007|Spartan-G007]] <sup>[http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=SpartanG007 <font color=green>XBL gamertag:SpartanG007</font>]</sup>


I'm not so sure that you can fit all of those in there. He just said there was enough room for them all. He may be talking about walkways and the top included. Who knows though. I want all of those things in there. That would be awesome.
I'm not so sure that you can fit all of those in there. He just said there was enough room for them all. He may be talking about walkways and the top included. Who knows though. I want all of those things in there. That would be awesome.
-Rudefire
-Rudefire


Personally, if this is possible and it can hold 2 Mongoose's and a Scorpion, I'll park a Scorpion and a Warthog in there instead. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 20:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Personally, if this is possible and it can hold 2 Mongoose's and a Scorpion, I'll park a Scorpion and a Warthog in there instead. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland</font>]][[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 20:51, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


http://www.halo.fr/images/screen3/screen270.jpg NEW SCREEN !
http://www.halo.fr/images/screen3/screen270.jpg NEW SCREEN !
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Why won't it let me edit this page?!?!?! There aren't any edit buttons!--[[User:GhostR17|GhostR17]] 00:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Why won't it let me edit this page?!?!?! There aren't any edit buttons!--[[User:GhostR17|GhostR17]] 00:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)


Does the crane actually do anything? Or is it only there for asthetic purposes? [[User:Daedalus969|Daedalus]] 08:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Does the crane actually do anything? Or is it only there for asthetic purposes? [[User:Daedalus969|Daedalus]] 08:20, 1 September 2007 (UTC)


Where did someone get that trivia about the script for managing to flip the Elephant? [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 17:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Where did someone get that trivia about the script for managing to flip the Elephant? [[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 17:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


Does the crane actually do anything? I must know. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland]]</font>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 19:20, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Does the crane actually do anything? I must know. --[[User:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">Lordofmonsterisland</font>]][[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland| <font color="green">"Roar to me"</font>]] 19:20, 24 September 2007 (UTC)


Yeah i wana know to... REALY BADLY!!! Why won't you tell us?  
Yeah i wana know to... REALY BADLY!!! Why won't you tell us?  
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Fun with grunts.
Fun with grunts.


I think that if you put the scorpion tank ON top then it could fit 2 warthogs and 2 mongooses, with a scorpion on top like it says in the article. Hehe. that would be AWSOME!!! [[PsycoThunder strikes!]]
I think that if you put the scorpion tank ON top then it could fit 2 warthogs and 2 mongooses, with a scorpion on top like it says in the article. Hehe. that would be AWSOME!!! PsycoThunder strikes!
 
hey guys the crane does not do a thing dis is grege.


== Elephant in Campaign? ==
== Elephant in Campaign? ==


I don't have Halo 3 yet, but is the Elephant featured in Campaign? Just a thought. Please answer WITHOUT SPOILERS! [[User:Vtar 'Kakumee|&lt;font color=#FF0000&gt;&#91;&#91;User: Vtar &#39;Kakumee&#124;Vtar,]]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color= #FFFF00&gt; &#91;&#91;User talk: Vtar &#39;Kakumee&#124; give me a fuzz]]&lt;/font&gt; &lt;font color=#800000&gt;&#91;&#91;The Chronicles Of Vtar &#39;Kakumee&#124;An Epic story about Heresy, Lies and about following your beleives]] &lt;/font&gt;]] 18:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
I don't have Halo 3 yet, but is the Elephant featured in Campaign? Just a thought. Please answer WITHOUT SPOILERS! [[User:Vtar 'Kakumee|&lt;font color=#FF0000&gt;&#91;&#91;User: Vtar &#39;Kakumee&#124;Vtar,]]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font color= #FFFF00&gt; &#91;&#91;User talk: Vtar &#39;Kakumee&#124; give me a fuzz]]&lt;/font&gt; &lt;font color=#800000&gt;&#91;&#91;The Chronicles Of Vtar &#39;Kakumee&#124;An Epic story about Heresy, Lies and about following your beleives]] &lt;/font&gt;]] 18:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


:I've completed Halo 3 on Normal, Heroic, and Legendary...It is saddly not in campain.--[[User:Lt. Commander|<font color="Black">'''Lieutenant''' </font>''']][[User talk:Lt. Commander|<font color="Silver">'''Commander'''</font>]] 15:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
:I've completed Halo 3 on Normal, Heroic, and Legendary...It is saddly not in campain.--[[User:Lt. Commander|<font color="Black">'''Lieutenant''' </font>]][[User talk:Lt. Commander|<font color="Silver">Commander</font>]]''' 15:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)'''




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== NO! ==
== NO! ==


It says its the counterpart to the scarrab? NO! It cant be, its not big enough! ti has no large guns, its too easy to board! NO WAY! --[[User:Ptowery|þ†öW讥]] <sup>[[User:Ptowery|^]]</sup> <sup>([[user talk:Ptowery|UNSC Fleetcom]])</sup><sup>([http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Ptowery%27s_Category UNSC History])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Ptowery|UNSC Mision Log]])</sup> 12:01, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
It says its the counterpart to the scarrab? NO! It cant be, its not big enough! ti has no large guns, its too easy to board! NO WAY! --[[User:Ptowery|þ†öW讥]] <sup>[[User:Ptowery|^]]</sup> <sup>([[user talk:Ptowery|UNSC Fleetcom]])</sup><sup>([http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Ptowery%27s_Category UNSC History])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Ptowery|UNSC Mision Log]])</sup> 12:01, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


you know when you flip the elephant, it says "wait what, how did u do that?"
you know when you flip the elephant, it says "wait what, how did u do that?"
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RadicalEdward2 20:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
RadicalEdward2 20:35, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


There are TONS of ways to flip the elephant. I did it with trip mines before logging on here. It was cool with the trip mines. [[User: PyschoThunder strikes!]]
There are TONS of ways to flip the elephant. I did it with trip mines before logging on here. It was cool with the trip mines. User: PyschoThunder strikes!


== New Trivia ==
== New Trivia ==


Based on the overall look of the elephant, it incredibly resembles a Sandcrawler from Star Wars, i suggest we add it to the Trivia. [[User:QX100|QX100]] 08:20, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Based on the overall look of the elephant, it incredibly resembles a Sandcrawler from Star Wars, i suggest we add it to the Trivia. QX100 08:20, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 
It kinda does! Lol, theres where Bungie was inspired. - [[User:Echo 1 | Cprl. Echo 1]] image: SpecHarness.jpg | 28px [[User_Talk:Echo 1 | High Resolution]] [[Special:Contributions/Echo 1 | Poor Quality]] 20:11, July 20, 2010 (UTC)


== I flipped the elephant! ==
== I flipped the elephant! ==


All I did was I went to Forge (Sandtrap), I took all o the Covenant batteries and Fusion Coils, put them into a big pile, drove the Elephant on to them, and blew them up. I have a video and screenshot of it in my fileshare. My gamertag is SilentKillerx07.
All I did was I went to Forge (Sandtrap), I took all of the Covenant batteries and Fusion Coils, put them into a big pile, drove the Elephant on to them, and blew them up. I have a video and screenshot of it in my fileshare. My gamertag is SilentKillerx07.
 
I made some instaspawn trip mines and went nuts on the side. Then i popped a frag in that mess and WHAM!!! This dude


== Somethings Wrong ==
== Somethings Wrong ==
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== Behemoth/M312 Discrepancy ==
== Behemoth/M312 Discrepancy ==


Which is the official term for the vehicle? --[[w:c:halo:User:Lordofmonsterisland|Lord of SPARTANs]]<sub>[[w:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">LOMI HQ</font>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#33FFFF>I here your cries</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#CC3333>May your works be honorable</font>]]</sub><br /> 16:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Which is the official term for the vehicle? --[[halowikia:User:Lordofmonsterisland|Lord of SPARTANs]]<sub>[[wikia:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">LOMI HQ</font>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#33FFFF>I here your cries</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#CC3333>May your works be honorable</font>]]</sub><br />16:25, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:Behemoth-class is probably the way it's called unofficially, while M312 is the official designation. Spirit of Fire 16:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Best Story of the Elephant ==
 
What's the best thing that's ever happened to you, good or bad, in the elephant in Multi-player?
Once, I got around 20-25 wheelmans in an elephant, but I have a better story.
Capture the Flag - One flag, one elephant. Team has to come to our base, take the flag, run back and plant it at their base's elephant. Unfortunately, this round it's the enemies' elephant. I grab a Trip Mine, 2 plasma grenades and a rocket launcher, and without any vehicle, run to the other side of the map and hop in their elephant. I find no enemy resistance.
I drive the elephant slowly and somehow unnoticed around one side of the map (Pelican side) No allies come to help or spawn, no enemies even come close to me.
I finally park my elephant behind our base, and at that moment, it says 'Flag Taken'. I then realize my mistake, seeing as the enemy has to only walk out of the underground base and walk a few feet to end the game.
But they don't. They go out another exit, to our vehicle spawn, and get in a warthog, driving back to their base. I look out the cockpit with my Rocket Launcher scope and laugh. Around 1 minute left in the game. I overhear an enemy mic say 'Where's our flag point?'. It never occures to anyone that I had the elephant, but my mic wasn't working, so I couldn't tell my allies of my plan. Round ends, and we win the game. I look and see the person with my flag running around in circles, not knowing where his Elephant was. Moral: Never underestimate the slow. <font color="green">Adios, amigos! - [[User:Juan Jose Rodriguez|José]] </font>15:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 
 
 
:I used it as a sniping range in multiplayer.[[User talk:WoWDeathknight|-WoWDeathknight]] 16:00, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Weight ==
 
Can we get some info on the weight of this thing? I'm sure its in the old strategy guide.--[[User talk:Halofighter92|Halofighter92]] 06:51, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 
The Scorpion weighs 66 tons, so the elephant would be an easy 300 tons. {{Unsigned|173.88.7.28}}
 
:You don't know that for sure. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 07:16, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 
==ODST Oliphant-JOTUN?==
So I made it my mission today to find every AudioLog pertaining to Sadie's Story in ODST. I got to the part involving Sadie's discussion with Jonas about finding a way to cart him out of the city and saw that the superintendent displayed a VERY interesting picture of an Oliphant with the Jotun logo. So it can easily be deduced that the Oliphant is made by Jotun Heavy Engineering right? Makes sense to me. So can we agree to put that on the page? And what about the military grade Elephant? Do you think that applies as well?--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 01:41, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 
:You said Audio Log, so I came sniffing around ^_^. I suppose we could add it, as it does say that... perhaps a pic? Source: http://www.youtube.com/user/r3b3link#play/uploads/23/QWyza1ABsuM
 
:--[[User talk:KickButtUnggoy|KickButtUnggoy]] 01:58, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 
:That image actually showcases the Elephant, not the Oliphant, so I think it can be safely assumed that the manufacturer of the M312 is indeed Jotun.--[[User talk:TDSpiral94|TDSpiral94]] 02:11, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 
:: Olifant is the Afrikaan saying of Elephant. They are the same thing. Source: [[Elephant]] "Olifant is an Afrikaan, as well as Archaic English word for Elephant" in Halo ODST section. --[[User talk:KickButtUnggoy|KickButtUnggoy]] 09:17, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
 
:::While totally unrelated to JOTUN, but all to do with Oliphant, it should and must be noted that in the Lord of the Rings franchise, the "elephants" are called Olifants (with one 'f', not two) or Oliphaunt/Oliphant by the Halflings (the Hobbits), and are also referred to more specifically, as Mûmakil, or for short, Mûmak. [[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 17:58, 8 July 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330<sub></sub>
 
::::Not really relevant. As a South Afrikaner himself by birth and early childhood, Tolkien used the South African name for the creature because it would seem exotic to his English/American readers. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:20, 8 July 2011 (EDT)
 
== gauss cannon? ==
 
could the elephants warthog machine gun be replaced by a gauss turret?
:It could.--<font face="century gothic"><font color="red">[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Lol</font>]]@[[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#666666">Phailure</font>]]</font></font> 01:56, December 10, 2009 (UTC)
<center>'''Elephant''' '''in Campain'''</center>
I really think bungie (or 343i) should accually relise the elephant's capibillitys and use it in Halo Reach
 
Just think, a campain level where you and Noble Squad (or some marines) have to defend a '''destoyable''' elephant while traveling to another place on Reach, the elephant has its main Elephant gun, Two side turrets, (in halo 3 on forge i put 4 machine gun turrets on the elephant, two on the side, one above the cockpit, and one at the back of the elephant)
and a mongoose or warthog that some sqaud members could scout ahead and then pull back and either take cover in the elephant or drive like an escort beside them.          It would be one freakin awesome level!
 
 
even having part of a level shooting out of the back of a pelican would be fun.
 
:Sign your posts and spell check. Also, talk pages are not for unrelated speculation on content that might not even be in a future game. [[User:SPARTAN-118|The user without a decent sig]]
 
== M312 or M313? ==
 
Right in front of me (IRL) is the Art of Halo 3 and the Elephant in the book is printed as M313 and not M312... is this a typo or has no one actually checked, ignored this and go along with what others said? - [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 01:56, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
how does this get down to the surface?
 
== Elephant in Spartan Assault ==
 
Okay, this page says the Elephant (M313) is in halo Spartan Assault. It may be from the image, but the actual ingame model is the M312 elephant from halo wars, aka the troop transport version. The two have distinctly different hull layouts. I think it should be reviewed and corrected, especially since the game is both on PC and xbox now.


:Behemoth-class is probably the way it's called unofficially, while M312 is the official designation. {{User:Spirit of Fire/Sig}} 16:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
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