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In this article the name of the Forerunner ship is given, when was this name confirmed and how? Please confirm, doubtful info here. | In this article the name of the Forerunner ship is given, when was this name confirmed and how? Please confirm, doubtful info here. | ||
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In one of the many scrips I read, it was called the ''Pelious Aslydom'', this may be false.[[User:Darth nexes|Admaral Sozai]] | In one of the many scrips I read, it was called the ''Pelious Aslydom'', this may be false.[[User:Darth nexes|Admaral Sozai]] | ||
:As per Dragonclaws, I think that all such scripts are fake, and that there is no name for the Forerunner Ship. Cheers, <tt> -49 Proximal Secant ['''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]'' | :As per Dragonclaws, I think that all such scripts are fake, and that there is no name for the Forerunner Ship. Cheers, <tt> -49 Proximal Secant ['''[[User:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="red">Relentless</font>]]''[[User talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="blue">Recusant</font>]]''''']</tt> 19:54, 12 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
The name of the ship is The Dreadnought. That is what it is called in the books and in one of the games. | |||
== AI Construct Encountered by Cortana == | == AI Construct Encountered by Cortana == | ||
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== Keyship == | == Keyship == | ||
From the Terminal's during the Ark portion of the campaign, I'd say that this is a last survivng Keyship - it unlocked the portal to the Ark, so I think it's pretty likely. Thoughts? | From the Terminal's during the Ark portion of the campaign, I'd say that this is a last survivng Keyship - it unlocked the portal to the Ark, so I think it's pretty likely. Thoughts? '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 22:04, 28 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Yeah, that makes sense. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#000000">Dragon<font color="#FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 22:25, 28 September 2007 (UTC) | :Yeah, that makes sense. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#000000">Dragon<font color="#FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 22:25, 28 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Makes total sense. [[User:5748 PrimaryCipher|5748 PrimaryCipher]] 03:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC) | Makes total sense. [[User:5748 PrimaryCipher|5748 PrimaryCipher]] 03:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
So why don't we rename the article "Forerunner Keyship"? Regardless of what Truth calls it, that's what it must be, evidently. '''Honour Light Your Way - ''' | So why don't we rename the article "Forerunner Keyship"? Regardless of what Truth calls it, that's what it must be, evidently. '''Honour Light Your Way - ''' '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 06:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
:If we do change it, I'd suggest just "Keyship". "Forerunner" is not part of the name. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#000000">Dragon<font color="#FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 18:03, 14 October 2007 (UTC) | :If we do change it, I'd suggest just "Keyship". "Forerunner" is not part of the name. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#000000">Dragon<font color="#FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 18:03, 14 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
If you look closely in Terminal 7, to the side is what I believe to be the Dreadnaught. Which would mean that the Dreadnaught, while not nessicarily a Keyship, it is related to the Terminals. --[[User:Spartan226|Spartan226]] 11:00, 14 October 2007(UTC) | If you look closely in Terminal 7, to the side is what I believe to be the Dreadnaught. Which would mean that the Dreadnaught, while not nessicarily a Keyship, it is related to the Terminals. --[[User:Spartan226|Spartan226]] 11:00, 14 October 2007(UTC) | ||
:As per Spartan226: I believe there is no definitive evidence to name this a "Keyship", although it is strongly related to the Terminals (see Terminal 7 @ Halo). Furthermore, in one of the Terminals, the [[Didact]] announces he's self-destructed all the Keyships. Or maybe it was the [[Librarian]]. *RR shrugs* Just my 2 cents. =] Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|<span style="color: #6262FF; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''RelentlessRecusant'''</span>]] 'o the [[ | :As per Spartan226: I believe there is no definitive evidence to name this a "Keyship", although it is strongly related to the Terminals (see Terminal 7 @ Halo). Furthermore, in one of the Terminals, the [[Didact]] announces he's self-destructed all the Keyships. Or maybe it was the [[Librarian]]. *RR shrugs* Just my 2 cents. =] Cheers, [[user:RelentlessRecusant|<span style="color: #6262FF; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''RelentlessRecusant'''</span>]] 'o the [[halowikia:Halopedia:Administrators|Halopedia Team]] <small><sup>[[user talk:RelentlessRecusant|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://{{SERVERNAME}}/index.php?title=User_talk:RelentlessRecusant&action=edit§ion=new <font color="A9A9A9">MESSAGE</font>]</sub></small> 18:13, 14 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
That was the [[Librarian]]. the reason i changed it to keyship because in halowars those class of ships are specifically called "Forerunner dreadnoughts" and are a very different frame than this keyship. i'll go into further detail if needed.[[User talk:Grey101|grey]] 19:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC) Grey101 | |||
== Dreadnaught == | == Dreadnaught == | ||
The Dreadnaught is a class of a forerunner vessel, also in the terminals it states that Superluminal(Key ships) vessels are the only ones that can access the portals.--[[User:Darth nexes|<b><span style="color: purple"> Sozai 'Zorfitee xiizz'uee </span></b> | The Dreadnaught is a class of a forerunner vessel, also in the terminals it states that Superluminal(Key ships) vessels are the only ones that can access the portals.--[[User:Darth nexes|<b><span style="color: purple"> Sozai 'Zorfitee xiizz'uee </span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Darth nexes|<b><span style="color: light purple">FLEETCOMM</span></b>]]</sup> 01:29, 25 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Halo Contact Harvest confirms it is a Dreadnought (pg. 147) but notice the spelling. O not A. I propose moving this page to Forerunner Dreadnought, and making this page a redirect. Agree or disagree anyone? [[User:P03 James|P03 James]] 20:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC) | :Halo Contact Harvest confirms it is a Dreadnought (pg. 147) but notice the spelling. O not A. I propose moving this page to Forerunner Dreadnought, and making this page a redirect. Agree or disagree anyone? [[User:P03 James|P03 James]] 20:45, 2 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Are we sure the AI inside the Forerunner Dreadnought was [[Mendicant Bias]] and not [[Offensive Bias]]. For all we know, Mendicant Bias is taken to Installation 00 for study by Offensive Bias, but we don't know where Offensive Bias ends up. Basically, is there any direct reference where it states that the AI aboard the Forerunner Dreadnought is Mendicant Bias? | Are we sure the AI inside the Forerunner Dreadnought was [[Mendicant Bias]] and not [[Offensive Bias]]. For all we know, Mendicant Bias is taken to Installation 00 for study by Offensive Bias, but we don't know where Offensive Bias ends up. Basically, is there any direct reference where it states that the AI aboard the Forerunner Dreadnought is Mendicant Bias? | ||
:--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|<font color="green">Master Gunnery Sergeant</font>]] [[ | :--'''[[User:Rotaretilbo|<font color="green">Master Gunnery Sergeant</font>]] [[halofanon:Hank J Wimbleton IV|<font color="green">Hank J Wimbleton IV</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Rotaretilbo|<font color="green">COM</font>]]</sup><sub>[[halofanon:Halo: Galaxy|<font color="green">Halo: Galaxy</font>]]</sub>''' 02:29, 24 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
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It was made by forerunner scientists so it is possibly made of an enhanced armor that is super strong, heat resistant and very light or maybe a to humans unknown alloy.[[User:One On One|One On One]] 13:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)One On One | It was made by forerunner scientists so it is possibly made of an enhanced armor that is super strong, heat resistant and very light or maybe a to humans unknown alloy.[[User:One On One|One On One]] 13:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)One On One | ||
Yeah sure. Acutally something that big and that light would have a density so low it should float in air... It's just writers with a complete lack of any math skills or knowledge about building material. The UNSC ships are also far too light for there size, but while those are merely laughable this example is batshit insane. --[[Special:Contributions/65.188.242.2|65.188.242.2]] 13:03, September 27, 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Attached to the Portal == | == Attached to the Portal == | ||
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The size of 14 kilometers was approximated from Halo 2 cutscenes. In Halo 3, the dreadnought is not that large. Comparing it to a CCS-class battlecruiser, the size seems to be about 2.5 kilometers. Which source is to believe?[[User:Mutoid Chief|Mutoid Chief]] 09:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC) | The size of 14 kilometers was approximated from Halo 2 cutscenes. In Halo 3, the dreadnought is not that large. Comparing it to a CCS-class battlecruiser, the size seems to be about 2.5 kilometers. Which source is to believe?[[User:Mutoid Chief|Mutoid Chief]] 09:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
File:The_Forerunner_Dreadnaught.PNG]]Maybe but look at this but it could be that in perspective it looks smaller. | |||
:this is just the dreadnaut reactor engine or whatever you want to call it but it does appear in halo wars and if u look at the bio of high charity it says it is powered by a single dreadnaut core via the one shown in the cutscenes so i believe this is just the core of a dreadnaut the actual full ships are docked on a shield world and are destroyed by the spirit of fire's crew after srg. forge kills the arbiter and sends the spirit of fires reactor into the artificial sun while the dreadnauts were un-docking | :this is just the dreadnaut reactor engine or whatever you want to call it but it does appear in halo wars and if u look at the bio of high charity it says it is powered by a single dreadnaut core via the one shown in the cutscenes so i believe this is just the core of a dreadnaut the actual full ships are docked on a shield world and are destroyed by the spirit of fire's crew after srg. forge kills the arbiter and sends the spirit of fires reactor into the artificial sun while the dreadnauts were un-docking | ||
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The Dreadnaught makes an appearance in about 3 Halo Wars missions. Shouldn't this be mentioned? | The Dreadnaught makes an appearance in about 3 Halo Wars missions. Shouldn't this be mentioned? | ||
:Well...if it appeared in the game and nobody has added it, then put it in before someone else does. '''[[User:ChurchReborn|<span style="color: black; font-family: Chaparral Pro; font-size: 120%;">J</span>]][[Special:Editcount/ChurchReborn|<span style="color: black; font-family: Chaparral Pro; font-size: 120%;">u</span>]][[User talk:ChurchReborn|<span style="color: black; font-family: Chaparral Pro; font-size: 120%;">s</span>]][[Special:Random|<span style="color: black; font-family: Chaparral Pro; font-size: 120%;">t</span>]][[Special:Contributions/ChurchReborn|<span style="color: black; font-family: Chaparral Pro; font-size: 120%;">i</span>]][[ | :Well...if it appeared in the game and nobody has added it, then put it in before someone else does. '''[[User:ChurchReborn|<span style="color: black; font-family: Chaparral Pro; font-size: 120%;">J</span>]][[Special:Editcount/ChurchReborn|<span style="color: black; font-family: Chaparral Pro; font-size: 120%;">u</span>]][[User talk:ChurchReborn|<span style="color: black; font-family: Chaparral Pro; font-size: 120%;">s</span>]][[Special:Random|<span style="color: black; font-family: Chaparral Pro; font-size: 120%;">t</span>]][[Special:Contributions/ChurchReborn|<span style="color: black; font-family: Chaparral Pro; font-size: 120%;">i</span>]][[halofanon:User:ChurchReborn|<span style="color: black; font-family: Chaparral Pro; font-size: 120%;">n</span>]][[halowikia:User:ChurchReborn|<span style="color: black; font-family: Chaparral Pro; font-size: 120%;">e</span>]]<sup><span style="color: black; font-size: 90%;">[[wikia:tardis:Tenth Doctor|<font color="black">I'm</font>]] too cool to sparkle. That's what my [[wikia:tardis:Sonic Screwdriver|<font color="black">sonic screwdriver's</font>]] for.</span></sup>''' 10:45, 1 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:When did it appear? I don't recall seeing it in Halo Wars. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[ | :When did it appear? I don't recall seeing it in Halo Wars. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 08:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
The ships at The Apex are referred too as Forerunner Dreadnoughts in the Theatre. [[User talk:Dreaddraco2|Dreaddraco2]] 11:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC) | The ships at The Apex are referred too as Forerunner Dreadnoughts in the Theatre. [[User talk:Dreaddraco2|Dreaddraco2]] 11:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
::I added some info on the subject in the main article. Feel free to expand the section :) --[[User talk:KaragouniS|KaragouniS]] 23:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC) | ::I added some info on the subject in the main article. Feel free to expand the section :) --[[User talk:KaragouniS|KaragouniS]] 23:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::The ships in Halo Wars obviously aren't dreadnoughts, at least not the same model as the one in Halo 2&3. And i'm fairly certain they aren't "keyships". Someone should mention this is the article. Or, as i'd prefer, the Halo Wars ships shouldn't be mentioned in this areticle at all, as they have their own article. | |||
::::I think the Dreadnought from Halo 2/3 is a Keyship, as it activates the portals to the Ark (obvious). But if it is also a Dreadnought, and they were supposedly all destroyed remotely, then how does Offensive BIas make the claim of "commanding Dreadnoughts like fighters" in the terminals after the Halo Array was fired in its last Battle with Mendicant Bias. Note that that the terminal data states the battle did take place after the Array firing (Halo Firing) so that would mean Offensive's fleet had no Dreadnoughts, so what ships were he referring to. I think the Halo Wars ships fit the bill as they were re-docked after the war since the Forerunners would of wanted to use them if they were around. This last keyship may of not been destroyed as it was on the Ark already returning the last Indexed life and returned to Offensive Bias so he may take the captured Mendicant to the Ark as he stated he wanted to. Plus, you are never sure how big the Halo Wars ships are seen from those extreme distances. You would have to have them next to a known sized ship or vessel to compare them too (if it were besides a Cruiser not in some distant screenshot),so they very well could be as tall as a Keyship and weigh the same. This theory supported by the misuse of Forerunner names at the hand of the High Prophet Truth. He is the only one in all the games to call it a Dreadnought. Compared to the Covenant ships it would of seemed that way. But like other terms, possibly changed for their "religious" reasons (Monitor/Oracle).[[User talk:Hatchling001|Hatchling001]] 06:14, 18 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
And one other Unrelated matter, the picture from that comic used to show the inside of the Ship, looks exactly like one of the levels in Halo 2 when you as the Arbiter fight Heretics on the Gas Mine and see the Seraph Fighter for the first time.[[User talk:Hatchling001|Hatchling001]] 06:26, 18 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
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On the second battle of earth section, it says how master chief does all that stuff aboard the Dreadnought, including the brute asking him about the key of ossalon (I cant remember the name) where exactly is this mentioned, because I dont want to delete it without knowing if it's cannon or not. Please answer![[User talk:Papayaking|Papayaking]] 06:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
:The Halo: Uprising comic series which, as far as we know, is canon. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 08:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
Oh alright, thanks. I haven't read those yet.[[User talk:Papayaking|Papayaking]] 23:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
Mind you, the Forerunner Dreadnoughts in Halo Wars are "true dreadnoughts", meaning that they possess weaponry, shields, armor, etc. They are actual forerunner warships, so it likely they would utterly smash the UNSC if the Covenant did not decide to try and reverse engineer them, and instead commandered them.--[[User talk:IAMMURDERBEAM|IAMMURDERBEAM]] 05:51, September 15, 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Naming == | |||
I think this page should be moved back to "Forerunner Dreadnought", as it's about this particular ship, not the class as a whole. "Keyship" is just the ship's classification, and this ship's referred to as "Dreadnought" in every official source. There already is an article detailing the ship class, that is, [[Key Ship]]. So, we can assume that this ship's either named "Dreadnought", or referred to as such for some reason. Either way, I think this should be moved, as per official naming and because there already is an article for Keyships as a whole. --[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 07:18, October 29, 2009 (UTC) | |||
==Green Conduit== | |||
For the image showing the green conduit connected to the Dreadnaught, it states that its purpose is to transport individuals to and from the Dreadnaught. I believe this to be incorrect, as in ''Halo 2'' when the player ascends to the final room with the conduit's end linked to some source in High Charity, you can hear Cortana state her surprise at finding out that the Covenant is better at 'repurposing' Forerunner technology than she originally thought. This leads me to believe that the conduit is actually what draws the power from the Dreadnaught. Seeing as how Master Chief travelled through the conduit at the end of the level High Charity, I don't see it as a practical means of travel for distinguished personnel such as the Prophet of Truth. In addition, he was transported to the Dreadnaught via a Phantom, not the conduit. If it were used for travel, how would the Covenant enter it? The conduit is too high up to simply walk in, and while Prophets could use their anti-gravity technology, this still leaves how Elites and Brutes would enter the conduit a mystery, as there is no visible signs of stairs or ramps leading into the conduit. What are some ideas here? | |||
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== Halo Wars Section == | |||
I think the section about the Forerunner Ships in Halo Wars is kind of irrelevant in this article; this is about one ship, not even the class, which would be [[Keyship]]. The fact the ships in HW are referred to as Dreadnoughts doesn't mean they have anything to do with this ship in particular. It deserves a trivia mention, but not a complete section. Plus, that class of ships already has an article of its own. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 16:02, February 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I agree. This article is specifically referring to the Dreadnought seen in ''Halo 2'' and ''Halo 3'', not the class. <small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:24px">[[User:orionf22|'''<span style="background-color:#787878; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px"> ΘяɪɸɴF22 </span>''']][http://halopedian.com/User:orionf22<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> Me </span>][[User talk:orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px"> Talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/orionf22|<span style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick"> Contributions </span>]][http://xfire.com/clans/coag<span style="background-color:#787878; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px"> <b>CAG</b> </span>]</span></small> 16:16, February 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
Halo fans have grown accustomed to referring to the keyship this way. I resolved this, personally, by moving the unidentified covenant warship to "Forerunner dreadnaught (class)". If you see a problem with this change, I am sorry, and you may of course re-move it. --<big>[[User:Pikapi|''<font color="teal">Chris</font>]]''</big> [[User_talk:Pikapi|<font color="blue">''talk''</font>]] 16:31, 18 August 2011 (EDT) | |||