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:I added Cryptum's cover to the gallery above. Has anyone else made the connection between this and the floating structures seen in Halo 4's concept art? I think the symbol could have been based upon/used to represent Forerunner architecture. Pause the concept art trailer at 0:43 and you can see another example of a similar structure. -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 07:33, 14 January 2012 (EST)
:I added Cryptum's cover to the gallery above. Has anyone else made the connection between this and the floating structures seen in Halo 4's concept art? I think the symbol could have been based upon/used to represent Forerunner architecture. Pause the concept art trailer at 0:43 and you can see another example of a similar structure. -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 07:33, 14 January 2012 (EST)


:The Forerunner Trilogy is using actual Halo 4 concept art for their covers. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 15:48, 14 January 2012 (EST)
:The Forerunner Trilogy is using actual Halo 4 concept art for their covers. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 15:48, 14 January 2012 (EST)


::I'm aware of that thanks. I'm saying that Halo 4's concept art (Cryptum's cover included) seems reminiscent of that symbol. -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 11:56, 15 January 2012 (EST)
::I'm aware of that thanks. I'm saying that Halo 4's concept art (Cryptum's cover included) seems reminiscent of that symbol. -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 11:56, 15 January 2012 (EST)


:::Sorry, I must have misread your statement. There have been statements in the novels that Forerunner glyphs have multi-dimensional aspects, and we see a few symbols dissected in layers during animations in H:CEA. I suppose it makes sense that Forerunners would build using glyphs as an architectural basis, or vice versa. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 23:30, 15 January 2012 (EST)
:::Sorry, I must have misread your statement. There have been statements in the novels that Forerunner glyphs have multi-dimensional aspects, and we see a few symbols dissected in layers during animations in H:CEA. I suppose it makes sense that Forerunners would build using glyphs as an architectural basis, or vice versa. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 23:30, 15 January 2012 (EST)


== Forerunners Ain't Dead ==
== Forerunners Ain't Dead ==
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So in conclusion what i'm getting at is that we add something along these lines to the article (probably in the overview): '''The total population of the entire Forerunner race is over 226,911,000,000.''' And then reference that to the first terminal text and maybe this post for reference on how that specific number came to be via inference. I wanted to run this past the site members to get feedback and so people understand the reasoning behind the aforementioned statement before it is included in the article, if included at all. Thanks for reading, please comment:
So in conclusion what i'm getting at is that we add something along these lines to the article (probably in the overview): '''The total population of the entire Forerunner race is over 226,911,000,000.''' And then reference that to the first terminal text and maybe this post for reference on how that specific number came to be via inference. I wanted to run this past the site members to get feedback and so people understand the reasoning behind the aforementioned statement before it is included in the article, if included at all. Thanks for reading, please comment:


[[User:The parkster|<font color="#ff6600">'''''the parkster'''''</font>]] [[w:c:Burnout:Main Page|<font color="gray"><small>'''@Burnopedia'''</small></font>]] 20:04, December 20, 2009 (UTC)
[[User:The parkster|<font color="#ff6600">'''''the parkster'''''</font>]] [[wikia:Burnout:Main Page|<font color="gray"><small>'''@Burnopedia'''</small></font>]] 20:04, December 20, 2009 (UTC)


:They might have been talking about the entire population. I think they'd have specified it if they were talking about one particular planet. On top of that, that would have to be a pretty large planet to support that many Forerunner. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:#770000; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:#770000; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 02:16, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
:They might have been talking about the entire population. I think they'd have specified it if they were talking about one particular planet. On top of that, that would have to be a pretty large planet to support that many Forerunner. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:#770000; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:#770000; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 02:16, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
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Well seeing as how they look the same (or close to the same) in both origins and the terminals, then one would assume that that wasn't just the imagination of a rampant AI [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 03:58, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
Well seeing as how they look the same (or close to the same) in both origins and the terminals, then one would assume that that wasn't just the imagination of a rampant AI [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 03:58, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
:The ''first appearance'' of the Forerunners would be ''Origins'', since they are seen visually. They are just merely mentioned in the terminals, but are not ''seen''. However, the Terminals are not the first mentione of the Forerunner either. The first mention of the Forerunners by name is in ''Halo: Combat Evolved'':
:The ''first appearance'' of the Forerunners would be ''Origins'', since they are seen visually. They are just merely mentioned in the terminals, but are not ''seen''. However, the Terminals are not the first mentione of the Forerunner either. The first mention of the Forerunners by name is in ''Halo: Combat Evolved'':
{{Quote|This ring isn't a cudgel, you barbarian, it's something else... something much more important. The Covenant were right... this ring... it's Forerunner. Give me a second to access... yes, the Forerunners built this place, what they called a "fortress world", in order to... no, that can't be. Oh, those Covenant fools, they must have known, there must have been signs!|Cortana, Assault on the Control Room}}
{{Quote|This ring isn't a cudgel, you barbarian, it's something else... something much more important. The Covenant were right... this ring... it's Forerunner. Give me a second to access... yes, the Forerunners built this place, what they called a "fortress world", in order to... no, that can't be. Oh, those Covenant fools, they must have known, there must have been signs!|Cortana, Assault on the Control Room}}


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Nah, nothing.  I just can't see the sign that says "this is a Forerunner." So either I'm stoned or it's as "clear" as you say it is. '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 23:52, 21 April 2012 (EDT)!
Nah, nothing.  I just can't see the sign that says "this is a Forerunner." So either I'm stoned or it's as "clear" as you say it is. '''[[User:Vegerot|<font color="blue">('''or so it says in the sacred caves''')</font> Vegerot!]]''''' 23:52, 21 April 2012 (EDT)!


What's stopping it simply being an infected human kept for study? The Halo research facilities would probably study a lot of different species' reactions to Flood infection. Even then, until it's ''confirmed'' to be a Forerunner, we can't just assume. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:58, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
What's stopping it simply being an infected human kept for study? The Halo research facilities would probably study a lot of different species' reactions to Flood infection. Even then, until it's ''confirmed'' to be a Forerunner, we can't just assume. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 00:58, 22 April 2012 (EDT)


If I read Primordium correctly, the Flood weren't interested on infecting humans because they would be tested later on. Therefore this has to be a Forerunner. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 01:52, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
If I read Primordium correctly, the Flood weren't interested on infecting humans because they would be tested later on. Therefore this has to be a Forerunner. --[[User talk:ADinoSupremacist|ADinoSupremacist]] 01:52, 27 April 2012 (EDT)


:Except that some Forerunners were very keen on human experimentation, especially regarding human infection. For all we know, the Forerunners themselves could have forced infection on a human for study. And that's the key word - "for all we know". -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:53, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
:Except that some Forerunners were very keen on human experimentation, especially regarding human infection. For all we know, the Forerunners themselves could have forced infection on a human for study. And that's the key word - "for all we know". -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:53, 27 April 2012 (EDT)


== (Notable) Forerunner Names ==
== (Notable) Forerunner Names ==
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Although most of them were wiped out by halo array a handful did survive I wonder what 343 have for this as 100000 years later their numbers would probably in the billions again.  Wonder what have 343 indicated about this. {{unsigned|Spartan Matt}}
Although most of them were wiped out by halo array a handful did survive I wonder what 343 have for this as 100000 years later their numbers would probably in the billions again.  Wonder what have 343 indicated about this. {{unsigned|Spartan Matt}}


:So far, 343i have said nothing about what happened to the handful of Forerunner surivors. They may have actually died out, they may have relocated and flourished elsewhere, or they may still be biding their time in Cryptums to reclaim their old empire. We just don't know. Frankly, my money is on option 3. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:50, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
:So far, 343i have said nothing about what happened to the handful of Forerunner surivors. They may have actually died out, they may have relocated and flourished elsewhere, or they may still be biding their time in Cryptums to reclaim their old empire. We just don't know. Frankly, my money is on option 3. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:50, 30 September 2013 (EDT)
 
== Naaaaaaames ==
 
I'm sorry, but it really bugs me how Forerunner names make NO SENSE AT ALL. e.x.: Bornstellar Makes Eternal Lasting. WHAT?? Chant-to-Green? Splendid-Dust-of-Ancient-Suns?????? First-Light-Weaves-Living-Songs???????????????????????????
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