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==Cleanup== | |||
Pretty much redid the whole thing and took off the "cleanup" tag. Hope it sounds better to all. - [[User:Khazikane|Khazikane]] 02:14, 21 March 2008 (UTC) | Pretty much redid the whole thing and took off the "cleanup" tag. Hope it sounds better to all. - [[User:Khazikane|Khazikane]] 02:14, 21 March 2008 (UTC) | ||
==Confirmation== | |||
While it's more than likely that this is the Elite Homeworld, we have no official confirmation. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 19:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC) | While it's more than likely that this is the Elite Homeworld, we have no official confirmation. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 19:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Okay, now we do. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 13:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC) | :Okay, now we do. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 13:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
==Article image== | |||
If only we could get a picture from the Beastarium and upload the homeworld picture....[[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 18:25, 2 October 2007 (UTC) | If only we could get a picture from the Beastarium and upload the homeworld picture....[[User:Kap2310|Kap2310]] 18:25, 2 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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I think, this is the best picture of Sanghelios. [[User:Jadeitor|Jadeitor]] 12:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC) | I think, this is the best picture of Sanghelios. [[User:Jadeitor|Jadeitor]] 12:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
File:Sanghelios_Picture.jpg|thumb|right|Sanghelios?]] | |||
== WTF == | == WTF == | ||
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I ''Highly'' doubt Sanghelios would have a small fleet more like the fleets we see at High Charity and Unyielding Hierophant. Considering an outer outpost world like Joyous Exaltation had 200 ships Sanghelios would probably be opting at least 1000 ships | I ''Highly'' doubt Sanghelios would have a small fleet more like the fleets we see at High Charity and Unyielding Hierophant. Considering an outer outpost world like Joyous Exaltation had 200 ships Sanghelios would probably be opting at least 1000 ships | ||
:Unyeilding Hierophant was a stopping-off point for a massive invasion fleet, and High Charity is a mobile fortress, and the home of the prophets. Sanghelios probably does have its own fleet, but the majority of the Covenant's forces would be focussed on keeping High Charity safe at any cost. --''' | :Unyeilding Hierophant was a stopping-off point for a massive invasion fleet, and High Charity is a mobile fortress, and the home of the prophets. Sanghelios probably does have its own fleet, but the majority of the Covenant's forces would be focussed on keeping High Charity safe at any cost. --'''CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]]''' - '''''UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a</font>]] <font color=purple>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ascension_of_Morheka 'Morhek]</font>''''' 11:27, 13 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
there would be 2 diffrent fleets, the massive elite fleet gaurding sanghelios and ships that belong to the covenant. im positive the ships at sanghelios would belong to the elites and not the prophets. | there would be 2 diffrent fleets, the massive elite fleet gaurding sanghelios and ships that belong to the covenant. im positive the ships at sanghelios would belong to the elites and not the prophets. | ||
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Look at the Halo Encyclopedia! They have a clear picture of the planet!--<small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|'''''<span style="background-color:purple; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato</span>''''']]</span></small> 15:54, October 22, 2009 (UTC) | Look at the Halo Encyclopedia! They have a clear picture of the planet!--<small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|'''''<span style="background-color:purple; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato</span>''''']]</span></small> 15:54, October 22, 2009 (UTC) | ||
: • I scanned in the page from my copy; could it be used? File:He-sanghelios.jpg|thumb|right|]] [[User talk:Neme 'Zusatee|Neme 'Zusatee]] 00:02, 17 October 2011 (EDT) | |||
==Halo Legends== | ==Halo Legends== | ||
Where excatly is this planet in Halo Legends, or mentioned? I have seen both released episodes, no sign of it. | Where excatly is this planet in Halo Legends, or mentioned? I have seen both released episodes, no sign of it. Gruntijackal | ||
:Um, they're standing on it.--<small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|'''''<span style="background-color:purple; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato</span>''''']]</span></small> 02:26, November 25, 2009 (UTC) | :Um, they're standing on it.--<small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|'''''<span style="background-color:purple; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato</span>''''']]</span></small> 02:26, November 25, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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{{Oppose}}- I'm glad that you are performing in this manner, but I will still oppose. Sorry, but I've made my point multiple times... ''separate celestial bodies deserve separate articles.'' As Jugus put it, we would never mix Earth and Luna together... Why should we merge these?--<small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|'''''<span style="background-color:purple; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato</span>''''']]</span></small> 05:51, July 26, 2010 (UTC) | {{Oppose}}- I'm glad that you are performing in this manner, but I will still oppose. Sorry, but I've made my point multiple times... ''separate celestial bodies deserve separate articles.'' As Jugus put it, we would never mix Earth and Luna together... Why should we merge these?--<small><span style="border: 2px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|'''''<span style="background-color:purple; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato</span>''''']]</span></small> 05:51, July 26, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Yes, Luna is separate from Earth, this is reasonable. We have a substantial quantity of specific content pertaining to each, it is only reasonable to dedicate individual articles. While Luna and Earth are separate celestial bodies, they are not in separate celestial systems, they are both included within the same solar system belonging to Sol, so the argument of separate celestial bodies is not a strong argument.: | |||
:Hypothetically, if you have heap of sand, you wouldn't devote an article to each grain in that heap, you would however, devote an article about the heap as a whole, soley for the reason that the content for one grain of sand would be insignificantly different from that of another grain of sand in that heap.--[[User talk:Plasmic Physics|Plasmic Physics]] 01:15, July 28, 2010 (UTC) | |||
{{Oppose}} - As per why I opposed it previously.- [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 06:36, July 26, 2010 (UTC) | {{Oppose}} - As per why I opposed it previously.- [[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">Sketch</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#E32636;">ist</span>]]</sup> 06:36, July 26, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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{{Oppose}} - As I and the others said before. Not going to happen. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:28, July 26, 2010 (UTC) | {{Oppose}} - As I and the others said before. Not going to happen. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:28, July 26, 2010 (UTC) | ||
{{Oppose}} - Got to agree with everyone above - [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 13:31, July 27, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Star system dynamics == | |||
I noticed that it says in the [[Bestarium]] that Sanghelios orbits Urs (i.e. its primary). So there are two configurations the system could have: | |||
*Fied and Joori orbit each other as a close binary pair; they in turn orbit Urs at a distance, Urs being close to the system’s center of mass. A real-world example is the star system [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_188753 HD 188753]. | |||
*Fied and Joori are at the system’s center of mass as a binary pair; Urs and its planets orbit these at a distance. Real-world example: the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Centauri Alpha Centauri] system. | |||
There's been no more details of the system given, so the above is speculative, but I thought it might be of interest to note that! | |||
[[User talk:Neme 'Zusatee|Neme 'Zusatee]] 21:57, 16 October 2011 (EDT) | |||
That's very interesting, I never really thought about how a three-star system would work... I imagine the day/night cycles for Sanghelios could be pretty weird [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 23:06, 16 October 2011 (EDT) | |||
==Sangheili Conflict== | |||
By what title are we referring to the Servants of Abiding Truth's uprising against 'Vadam? I was thinking "Sangheili Civil War", the conflict seems to be on a large enough scale, but I wanted to get other opinions. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 01:42, 7 October 2012 (EDT) | |||
== State of... == | |||
We're currently using a standard of titling every Sangheili state with the prefix "State of..." following the template of our article on the [[State of Vadam]]. However, I've began to view this in questionable light given how ''Glasslands'' and ''The Thursday War'' never use the format; the supposed "[[State of Ontom]]" is just ''Ontom'' and the [[State of Acroli]] is ''Acroli''. Where did this standard come from, then? I suppose it originated from a single line referring to the "state of Vadam" in ''The Cole Protocol'' (p93); given this wiki's previous policy of randomly interpreting anything as a proper name, this ostensibly descriptive term found its way into usage it wasn't originally intended for ([[Talk:Insurrectionist#Possible merge to Insurrectionist|not the only time this has happened]]). The standard has later found its way to canon material; the ''Essential Visual Guide'' uses the same format - with "State" capitalized - when referring to [[Ripa 'Moramee]]'s home state; one can guess where they got the idea. | |||
Still, I don't think this is a problem we can't get around; given its canonical justification, it can be used as a more elegant way of disambiguating certain pages, like [[Vadam]] (the family) and the [[State of Vadam]]. However, it's completely unnecessary to use the "State of" in articles which need no disambiguation, which is basically all of the known Sangheili states other than Vadam. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 03:37, 17 October 2012 (EDT) | |||
== List of keeps == | |||
What happened to it? [[Special:Contributions/98.24.14.97|98.24.14.97]] 16:14, 16 February 2013 (EST) | |||
:The keeps are listed under the "Locations" section.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 16:19, 16 February 2013 (EST) | |||
==Locations section== | |||
I'm contemplating removing the locations section on this article (and on other articles with large location sections like Earth, Harvest, and Reach). When it's this large, it becomes harder to organize and it looks a bit messy. The locations category for Sanghelios is easier to manage and we don't really have to update it every time, so we could just link to that instead. Any thoughts? --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 12:29, 18 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
I think it should be left, but organized better so that the first tier of bullet points are always continents and then underneath them we could have smaller subdivisions. Then there would be a separate category entirely for places of unknown location, kind of like how the inner colonies and outer colonies and unknowns are listed on that page. ---Japeth555 | |||
:I think Nighthammer's suggestion would work best in the long run. These locations would likely be expanded in the near future and having the list being automated by way of a category would solve any issue of not keeping the list updated. It would also certainly look better in mobile view as well. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 08:44, 19 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
::Agreed. Of course, the Locations section can stay on articles with only a handful of locations and those that have no locations category. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 19:57, 19 October 2015 (EDT) | |||
==Infobox image?== | |||
I'm not sure if we should keep the current image or replace it with [http://www.halopedia.org/File:H5G-Sanghelios.png this]. The current image is much more clear and shows the landmasses better, but the new one is more accurate I guess? -- [[User:Topal the Pilot|'''Topal the Pilot''']] [[File:Blueteam.png|20px]] <small>([[User talk:Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Talk'''</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Contribs'''</span>]])</small> 20:01, 19 December 2015 (EST) | |||
:Both are good, but I think we should probably keep the current image as it is a clearer image. Perhaps place the new image elsewhere on the article. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 20:07, 19 December 2015 (EST) | |||
The in-game image is a thousand times better. The current one is kind of ridiculous with how close the moons are portrayed to be to the planet. -Japeth555 | |||
:The current one doesn't have the moons in it. The previous one from ''Blood Lines'' did, which is what I'm guessing you are referring to. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 22:01, 19 December 2015 (EST) | |||
== Warfleet info == | |||
According to warfleet, the population is 3.9 Billion. Now we can get rid of the "less than 4 billion" vagueness. Page 54.{{unsigned|73.63.52.120}} | |||
==Image== | |||
Does anyone think this image is better?[[User:TheEld|TheEld]] ([[User talk:TheEld|talk]]) 01:32, 6 March 2019 (EST)TheEld [[File:WFSanghelios.png|150px|thumb]] | |||
:I think it's more preferable than the current image, as half the planet is shrouded in darkness. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 01:36, 6 March 2019 (EST) | |||
::I sort of prefer the current one still. The Warfleet image is more obviously an artistic rendition, whereas the in-game version is more realized, with clouds, proper shading, etc.[[User:TheEld|TheEld]] ([[User talk:TheEld|talk]]) 01:44, 6 March 2019 (EST)TheEld | |||
:::Note the Warfleet one matches the Halo 5 map that I was able to make. A map that is on the page.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 07:17, 6 March 2019 (EST) | |||
::::I prefer the in-game image, even if it is shrouded in darkness.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 10:34, 6 March 2019 (EST) | |||
:::::Isn't there an in-game image in the gallery that has more of the surface lit?--[[User:D9328|D9328]] ([[User talk:D9328|talk]]) 12:14, 6 March 2019 (EST)d9328 | |||