Forum:Brutes Should NOT Join Elite Covenant Remnant Factions: Difference between revisions

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==Comments==
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YES, THEY CAN AND HAVE.
You're wrong. You're acting like canon information should be discarded simply because you want things to be simpler and for all members of an entire species to act and believe the same. {{Unsigned|Japeth555}}


* Where is it documented that they got into fistfights? And where does it say they hated each other from day 1?
* Where is it documented that they got into fistfights? And where does it say they hated each other from day 1?
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That's not Doisac, and I am not saying they didn't have a rivalry, but your entire argument hinges on the idea that everyone hates everyone. Some individuals like Lydus and Ayit work with their peoples enemies to help their own people or just because they are sociopaths and want wealth, to hinge on the idea that grudges will always be held will mean the Humans and the Sangheili will never ally, which has already happened. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 23:10, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
That's not Doisac, and I am not saying they didn't have a rivalry, but your entire argument hinges on the idea that everyone hates everyone. Some individuals like Lydus and Ayit work with their peoples enemies to help their own people or just because they are sociopaths and want wealth, to hinge on the idea that grudges will always be held will mean the Humans and the Sangheili will never ally, which has already happened. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] ([[User talk:Alertfiend|talk]]) 23:10, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
YES, THEY CAN AND HAVE.
You're wrong. You're acting like canon information should be discarded simply because you want things to be simpler and for all members of an entire species to act and believe the same. {{Unsigned|Japeth555}}
First of all, cut the caps, its rude. Secondly, no it wouldn't work. Why would the Elite Covenant Remnant want the Brutes to join them, Elites hate Brutes post 2552. A Brute joining an Elite faction would be like a person of color trying to join a racist supremest group. It wouldn't work. If Jul Mdama doesn't have it in him to make peace with the Arbiter's Elite faction (fellow BROTHER Elites, Elites have a strong sense of kinship), or make peace with the Humans. How can you expect Jul Mdama to ever make peace with the sworn enemy of his species, the Brutes?
Also, why would the Brutes want to join the Elites in the first place? Regardless of individuality, the Elites are currently attacking the Brutes who have fallen into civil war, and trying to wipe out their species (source: https://youtu.be/pggwSIyA92Q?t=14m15s ). Why would a member of a species, want to join the very species that is trying to exterminate them? It makes no sense. Lets say your argument that some brutes don't hate Elites, sure, with a big population thats possible. But they would be so few in numbers, whats the point? And once again, it has to be a two way agreement, the Elites wouldn't want to accept them anyway.
The Brutes would be better off starting their own Covenant Remnant faction.[[User:SpartanEdit0r|SpartanEdit0r]] ([[User talk:SpartanEdit0r|talk]]) 23:19, 28 August 2015 (EDT)