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::::It's particularly egregious when 4/5 of the entire plot is a result of supposed violations of the treaty. Come to think of it, what is it that the ONI need proof for anyway? If they need proof that there's Sangheili breaking the treaty (as they claim), they have a bunch of surveillance footage and a huge corpse right there in the mall. Why is it necessary to prove that smugglers—human or otherwise—are also setting foot on Alpha Halo to sell the stuff to the zealots? Landing on the Halo is insignificant next to a terrorist attack that injured and killed numerous people. And keeping in mind who we're talking about, since when has ONI needed proof anyway? They're not cops on an investigation. This is the organization that has people assassinated for looking at them the wrong way, kidnaps children and plans xenocide on their spare time. To me the proof thing felt like an excuse to force the crew to actually land on the primary setting instead of just nuking it. This could be salvaged by making it an excuse in-universe in an ''Aliens''-esque twist about covert orders to investigate the ring for some reason. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 11:58, 18 November 2014 (EST)
::::It's particularly egregious when 4/5 of the entire plot is a result of supposed violations of the treaty. Come to think of it, what is it that the ONI need proof for anyway? If they need proof that there's Sangheili breaking the treaty (as they claim), they have a bunch of surveillance footage and a huge corpse right there in the mall. Why is it necessary to prove that smugglers—human or otherwise—are also setting foot on Alpha Halo to sell the stuff to the zealots? Landing on the Halo is insignificant next to a terrorist attack that injured and killed numerous people. And keeping in mind who we're talking about, since when has ONI needed proof anyway? They're not cops on an investigation. This is the organization that has people assassinated for looking at them the wrong way, kidnaps children and plans xenocide on their spare time. To me the proof thing felt like an excuse to force the crew to actually land on the primary setting instead of just nuking it. This could be salvaged by making it an excuse in-universe in an ''Aliens''-esque twist about covert orders to investigate the ring for some reason. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 11:58, 18 November 2014 (EST)
:::::ONI may have their own agenda, but you got to remember they still have to follow protocol. One Elite zealot, who are nowadays a religious militant with any given sect of the Covenant ideology, isn't enough to go off from. In the first episode of Spartan Ops, its mentioned that Majestic stopped an Elite from detonating a Havok nuke in the middle of a human population center on Earth. I'm sure the city had cameras and plenty of witnesses. Hell, they could debrief the Spartans who detained the Elite. The only difference between these two events? One obviously found something far more lethal and enigmatic. This would demand an investigation, especially if its from the fragment of a Halo ring that Master Chief destroyed. If this new found Covenant is a threat, then they need full support from the UEG in order to effectively suppress this thing. That means boots on the ground and ships in orbit. UNSC resources that ONI agents or a fleet of prowler ships don't have. Think of it as an excuse, a perfect excuse, they've been waiting for. -'''[[User:Archer|Archer]]'''


As an aside I liked Horrigan's comment about how the Sedrans are "two centuries behind us" and "still believe in Valhalla". At first I thought that was a hyperbole or joke or he was just clueless about the local religions, but it could also be that the Norse religion was in vogue in the 2300's. It'd be a little silly and unexpected but stranger things have happened. Sometimes it's easy to forget how much cultures can change in five hundred years, particularly when you have hundreds of different offshoots developing on their own on different worlds. I like these sorts of bits of future history that remind us this is not just today's world in space (something I had a problem with in the ''Kilo-Five Trilogy''). --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 03:27, 13 November 2014 (EST)
As an aside I liked Horrigan's comment about how the Sedrans are "two centuries behind us" and "still believe in Valhalla". At first I thought that was a hyperbole or joke or he was just clueless about the local religions, but it could also be that the Norse religion was in vogue in the 2300's. It'd be a little silly and unexpected but stranger things have happened. Sometimes it's easy to forget how much cultures can change in five hundred years, particularly when you have hundreds of different offshoots developing on their own on different worlds. I like these sorts of bits of future history that remind us this is not just today's world in space (something I had a problem with in the ''Kilo-Five Trilogy''). --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 03:27, 13 November 2014 (EST)
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