Forum:Important proposal: Wiping Talk Pages?: Difference between revisions

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{{Forumheader|Community Proposal}}
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'''Proposal rejected'''


==Proposal==
==Proposal==
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''Please vote here! Note if 3 admins are "against", this proposal in such a form is rejected due to the high importance of it.''
''Please vote here! Note if 3 admins are "against", this proposal in such a form is rejected due to the high importance of it.''


===Support (3/1) sysop===
===Support (4/1) Sysop===
''Please use "#{{Support}} -" if you support this''
''Please use "#{{Support}} -" if you support this''
#{{Support}} — Of course I support this as I submitted it. Most against stuff can be fixed by reverting if needed. Which anyone can do.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 16:52, 4 August 2017 (EDT)
#{{Support}} — Of course I support this as I submitted it. Most against stuff can be fixed by reverting if needed. Which anyone can do.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 16:52, 4 August 2017 (EDT)
#{{Support}} — It's old, filthy, and cumbersome, and as you stated multiple times, we can revive deleted pages on a case-by-case basis. The entire wiki needs an overhaul and user talk pages, among others, should be no exception. {{User:Helianthus/Sig}}
#{{Support}} — It's old, filthy, and cumbersome, and as you stated multiple times, we can revive deleted pages on a case-by-case basis. The entire wiki needs an overhaul and user talk pages, among others, should be no exception. {{User:Helianthus/Sig}}
#{{Support}} — Even tho I'm a new user, it seems like it's more suitable to wipe this pages to a new state so its practical for new users to jump into the conversation at hand. {{User:Blitzard/Sig}}
#{{Support}} — Even tho I'm a new user, it seems like it's more suitable to wipe this pages to a new state so its practical for new users to jump into the conversation at hand. {{User:Blitzard/Sig}}
#{{Support}} — I'm also a fairly new user but sounds like a nice idea, getting rid of old stuff you most likely won't need anymore is always useful. [[User:Hectorlo|Hectorlo]] 18:44, 4 August 2017 (CDT)


===Neutral (1/0) Sysop===
===Neutral (2/0) Sysop===
''Please use "#{{neutral}} -" if you are neutral to this''
''Please use "#{{neutral}} -" if you are neutral to this''
#{{neutral}} — I rarely use talk pages and don't hold much knowledge on the greater functionalities at play here. While I lean opposed at this time I don't hold enough informed insight to justify calling myself for support or opposition. That may change however pending discussion by experienced individuals weighing in with their pros and cons.--[[User:Halopediaman|Halopediaman]] ([[User talk:Halopediaman|talk]]) 17:56, 4 August 2017 (EDT)
#{{neutral}} — I rarely use talk pages and don't hold much knowledge on the greater functionalities at play here. While I lean opposed at this time I don't hold enough informed insight to justify calling myself for support or opposition. That may change however pending discussion by experienced individuals weighing in with their pros and cons.--[[User:Halopediaman|Halopediaman]] ([[User talk:Halopediaman|talk]]) 17:56, 4 August 2017 (EDT)
#{{neutral}} - I don't use talk pages, but if you are going to delete them, I would suggest that you at least create an archive of sorts, to preserve old discussions and store them there, instead of permanently deleting them from the site. --[[User:Legobuilder3190|Legobuilder3190]] 18:37, 4 August 2017 (EDT)


===Against (1/1) Sysop===
===Against (4/3) Sysop===
''Please use "#{{Oppose}} -" if you are opposed to this''
''Please use "#{{Oppose}} -" if you are opposed to this''


#{{Oppose}} -I'm sceptical of deleting them. There are some valuable discussions there, and deleting them is deleting a record of our history. A clean slate can be nice, but having a record of how some articles came to be, how we fixed on certain notions, and so on, is also valuable. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:37, 4 August 2017 (EDT)
#{{Oppose}} -I'm sceptical of deleting them. There are some valuable discussions there, and deleting them is deleting a record of our history. A clean slate can be nice, but having a record of how some articles came to be, how we fixed on certain notions, and so on, is also valuable. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:37, 4 August 2017 (EDT)
 
#{{Oppose}} -The talk pages are good to refer to for a record of how issues have been settled and how we've come to conclusions. For example, Scalemaster has revealed things to us on them.[[User:TheEld|TheEld]] ([[User talk:TheEld|talk]]) 18:00, 4 August 2017 (EDT)TheEld
#{{Oppose}} -The talk pages are good to refer to for a record of how issues have been settled and how we've come to conclusions. For example, Scalemaster has revealed things to us on them.[[User:TheEld|TheEld]] ([[User talk:TheEld|talk]]) 18:00, 4 August 2017 (EDT)TheEld
:::Funny thing. Talk pages Scalemaster edited in are ones I was planning on keeping. -[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 18:03, 4 August 2017 (EDT)
#:Funny thing. Talk pages Scalemaster edited in are ones I was planning on keeping. -[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 18:03, 4 August 2017 (EDT)
#{{Oppose}} - As per Morhek, as much as some of the talk pages are non-issues or completely irrelevant, I don't think it is needed to wipe it all out. Not only are some of them interesting, but it could be useful to refer to or a way of seeing why something is on an article even if it doesn't seem relevant right now. There's been times where I find random useful sources I wouldn't have found had I not checked the talk page from years ago. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 19:46, 4 August 2017 (EDT)
#{{Oppose}} - Don't nuke the wiki's history over some red links. If that's the issue, then take the time to fix them. There must be a balance between protecting Halopedia's past while improving for the future. --<span style="font-variant:small-caps">'''[[User:Porplemontage|Steve]]'''</span> (''[[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]'') <span class="plainlinks">[https://www.getfirefox.com https://www.halopedia.org/images/firefox_27x15.png]</span> 19:58, 4 August 2017 (EDT)


==Comments==
==Comments==