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While it is true that the SoS was created as a "splinter" of the original Covenant and in spite of the fact that it is still considered, or at least ''was'' considered, by some in the UNSC as the legitimate successor to the Covenant, given new information from the Universe articles as well as comments made by SoS members in H2A and H5G in which members of Thel's faction instead refer to Jul 'Mdama's forces as the "Covenant", should the Swords of Sanghelios still be considered a "Covenant Remnant"? I suppose it comes down to whether or not the umbrella term of "Covenant remnants" applies to all former members of the Covenant or simply the ones that still consider themselves to be "Covenant". --[[User:Cyrannian|Cyrannian]] ([[User talk:Cyrannian|talk]]) 20:23, 18 July 2015 (EDT) | While it is true that the SoS was created as a "splinter" of the original Covenant and in spite of the fact that it is still considered, or at least ''was'' considered, by some in the UNSC as the legitimate successor to the Covenant, given new information from the Universe articles as well as comments made by SoS members in H2A and H5G in which members of Thel's faction instead refer to Jul 'Mdama's forces as the "Covenant", should the Swords of Sanghelios still be considered a "Covenant Remnant"? I suppose it comes down to whether or not the umbrella term of "Covenant remnants" applies to all former members of the Covenant or simply the ones that still consider themselves to be "Covenant". --[[User:Cyrannian|Cyrannian]] ([[User talk:Cyrannian|talk]]) 20:23, 18 July 2015 (EDT) | ||
:We've had some discussion on that in the [[Talk:Covenant remnants|Covenant remnants talk page]]. "What does it mean to be "Covenant" today?" indeed. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] ([[User talk:SFH|talk]]) 21:08, 18 July 2015 (EDT) | :We've had some discussion on that in the [[Talk:Covenant remnants|Covenant remnants talk page]]. "What does it mean to be "Covenant" today?" indeed. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] ([[User talk:SFH|talk]]) 21:08, 18 July 2015 (EDT) | ||
== All Sangheilli are technically Sepratists (Even Jul Mdama) == | |||
Every single Sangheili left the Covenant during the great schism. Weather they became part of Jul's Covenant Remnant or Arbiter's Swords of Sangheilios, all Sangheili ended up fighting against the Jiralhanae and San Shyuum during the great schism. | |||
It would have been impossible for Sangheili to remain part of the Covenant Empire or Loyalists during the Great schism because if they had stayed, the Jiralhane would have massacared them. Truth ordered the Jiralhane to kill all the Sangheili, they were all ultimately forced out. | |||
# "These events led the' 'entire Sangheili species to secede from the Covenant, forming the Covenant Separatists, Led by Rtas 'Vadum and Thel 'Vadam." [[Sangheili]] | |||
# "The resulting conflict would be called the Great Schism, and it would divide the Covenant into two, ultimately forcing the Sangheili out (of the Covenant)." https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/species/jiralhanae | |||
Because of this, shouldn't there be a seperate article for Sepratists and Swords of Sangheilios? Because technically even Jul Mdama and the Sangheili in his neo covenant faction are sepratists from the original Covenant too. | |||