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==Jackal Zealot in Reach?== | |||
As most of you know in Reach Jackal Minors have blue Defense Gauntlets and Majors have red Defense Gauntlets that turn blue when they have taken enough damage. Majors also have shoulder pads that the Minors do not possess. One day as I was playing Reach on the level PoA, on drydock there were three Jackals that appeared to have orange shields. When the shields took enough damage they turned a light violet color. However, as I examined their bodies they appeared to be Jackal Majors. I thought it was just the lighting in the area; but to make sure, I killed just one of these "orange shield Jackals" and then quit. when I looked at the stats it registered as a "Jackal Hero," surprisingly. Next I tried killing just a blue shield/red shield, respectively. They both registered as "Jackal Infantry". | |||
My point is, could these orange shields be the elusive Jackal Zealot?--[[User talk:TK 234|One who survived]] 17:36, 9 November 2010 (EST) | |||
Maybe, though it could have been a glitch, as Jackal Snipers also register as Jackal Heroes, but I understand your point...in fact, I'm surprised that nobody noticed this before. -xxgamernerdxx | |||
Note: Upon further investigation, I have found that Jackal Majors actually register as "Jackal Specialists". My apologies --[[User talk:TK 234|One who survived]] 19:49, 20 December 2010 (EST) | |||
PS- Thanks for responding.--[[User talk:TK 234|One who survived]] 19:50, 20 December 2010 (EST) | |||
==Contact Harvest?== | |||
There's a lot of information about Kig-Yar history in Contact Harvest. I'm only about halfway through the book (not bad for two hours in a plane and maybe a half hour at baggage claim) and when the crew of the ''Minor Transgression'' were the focus of the story (which is a great deal) a lot was revealed. How come none of you regular Halopedians have covered this yet? | |||
==Which are stronger?== | ==Which are stronger?== | ||
I havent really played it in a while but the color differences are probably because of different races. Like on Earth, American, African, Chinese.--[[User:Leckgolo434| | I havent really played it in a while but the color differences are probably because of different races. Like on Earth, American, African, Chinese.--[[User:Leckgolo434|prophet of war]] 23:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC) | ||
Actually, I think they're all the same, in speed and endurance. Higher ranking ones (purple/orange shields) seem to be better at dodging and more skilled at staying behind the shield, but not by much. -- [[User:Druin-209|Druin-209]] | |||
== Jackal info == | == Jackal info == | ||
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== halo ce? == | == halo ce? == | ||
there are no jackals in halo ce. halo ce is a stand-alone ''multiplayer'' add on for halo pc. -[[User:RimFire|Rim]]<font color="silver">Ж</font>[[User talk:RimFire|<font color="red">''Fire''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/RimFire|<sup><font color="green">TM</font></sup> | there are no jackals in halo ce. halo ce is a stand-alone ''multiplayer'' add on for halo pc. -[[User:RimFire|Rim]]<font color="silver">Ж</font>[[User talk:RimFire|<font color="red">''Fire''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/RimFire|<sup><font color="green">TM</font></sup>]] 14:23, 27 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Halo CE = Halo: Combat Evolved, although sometimes it can also mean Custom Edition.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 15:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC) | :Halo CE = Halo: Combat Evolved, although sometimes it can also mean Custom Edition.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 15:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
: There are Jackals in both, seeing as how the original campaign has been remade for Halo: Custom Edition. [[User talk:Echo-77|Echo-77]] 12:52, July 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Spiker == | == Spiker == | ||
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:::*Easy on Halo 2.[[User:Qual 'Fulsamsee|Qual 'Fulsamsee]] 20:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC) | :::*Easy on Halo 2.[[User:Qual 'Fulsamsee|Qual 'Fulsamsee]] 20:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
::::I noticed that you aslo said Grunts, But in the novel "Halo: Fall of Reach", it describeds grunts using plasma Rifle as their primary weapons.PsychoThunder | |||
There is one jackal in the game with a plasma rifle like 'Fulsamsee said it is in the level delta halo, Peace.--[[User:The Chazz025|The Chazz025]] and [[User:The Chazz025/Taliban Command (Tango Company)|Clan]] 20:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC) | There is one jackal in the game with a plasma rifle like 'Fulsamsee said it is in the level delta halo, Peace.--[[User:The Chazz025|The Chazz025]] and [[User:The Chazz025/Taliban Command (Tango Company)|Clan]] 20:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Maybe the [[lance]] commander carries a plasma pistol or something. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front<font color="000000">(shockfront)]</font></sup></b> 16:54, 3 April 2007 (UTC) | :Maybe the [[lance]] commander carries a plasma pistol or something. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front<font color="000000">(shockfront)]</font></sup></b> 16:54, 3 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
Maybe its like the Needler Sentinel. Bungie was experimenting, and forgot to delete it (or left it in, just for fun.) --[[User:Druin-209|Druin-209]] | |||
==Size is Wrong== | ==Size is Wrong== | ||
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:In Halo, Jackals were about 6'2". In Halo 2, they were closer to 7 feet. In Halo, Grunts were just over 5 feet. In Halo 2, though, they were the same...so you're probably right. -[[User:Azathoth|The Dark Lord Azathoth]] 15:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC) | :In Halo, Jackals were about 6'2". In Halo 2, they were closer to 7 feet. In Halo, Grunts were just over 5 feet. In Halo 2, though, they were the same...so you're probably right. -[[User:Azathoth|The Dark Lord Azathoth]] 15:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
Actually, Jackals are probably much taller than six feet; about the same height as an Elite, as shown in this picture. http://www.halopedian.com/File:Scale.GIF - xxgamernerdxx | |||
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The H1 Jackals have teeth, as well. There's a screen on this wiki page that shows that. [[User:Blue Ninja|Blue Ninja]] 08:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC) | The H1 Jackals have teeth, as well. There's a screen on this wiki page that shows that. [[User:Blue Ninja|Blue Ninja]] 08:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
The Jackals in Halo: Combat Evolved did have teeth but they were not the same as the Jackals teeth in Halo 2, they looked more close together and sort of plated, Halo 2 Jackals had sharp | The Jackals in Halo: Combat Evolved did have teeth but they were not the same as the Jackals teeth in Halo 2, they looked more close together and sort of plated, Halo 2 Jackals had sharp separate teeth.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 11:25, 8 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
By the looks of it, the shields have changed too, Major Jackals shields are now red and minor jackals now have the original blue shields, and...in that opening picture their eyes seemed to have changed... they look pale. =S-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 13:44, 23 September 2007 (UTC) | By the looks of it, the shields have changed too, Major Jackals shields are now red and minor jackals now have the original blue shields, and...in that opening picture their eyes seemed to have changed... they look pale. =S-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 13:44, 23 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Yo the Jackal rank pages ([[Jackal Minor]] [[Jackal Major]] [[Jackal Sniper]]) need serious help! They are outdated and contain disputed facts! HELP THEM. | Yo the Jackal rank pages ([[Jackal Minor]] [[Jackal Major]] [[Jackal Sniper]]) need serious help! They are outdated and contain disputed facts! HELP THEM. | ||
*I've been reading 'Contact Harvest', and I suggest we add Shipmaster/Shipmistress and Zealot to the list. | |||
==gender== | |||
hey, does anyone else think that the jackals with the large helmet things in Halo 1 were female jackals? Contact Harvest mentions them having bumps on the shoulders and heads, so maybe the helmet is to protect/cover up the bumps? | |||
[[User:Spartan 501|Spartan 501]] 04:52, 24 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:-I also think so. Makes sense. I myself was going to do the same thing you did. [[User:DilaBagomee|DilaBagomee]] 08:00, 5 July 2008 | |||
Actually, I'm going to have to disagree with both you gentlemen. You see, the "pads" are there as a sort of protection against the spikes of the male when Jackals are mating. Why protect something that's already armor? The only reasoning that I can see for having the helmet is the most straightforward one, to protect their heads. - Esq Vratum | |||
==Not Exactly The First Species Seen== | |||
Well I was reading Contact Harvest and technically the first alien seen by any Human was a grunt named Dadab as he was attacked by the ships captain. But yeah Jackals were the first to be taken into account by the Humans in general.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 15:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Kroot V.S. Jackal== | |||
For Warhammer 40k fans they seem similar. Kroot are bird like mercs that only side with tau at first for profit. But some have been converted. | |||
the tau are basicly covernent but less races ,the tau are the prothets and the kroot the jakels and the vespids are drones. | |||
== Pictures == | |||
Anyone else think they could do with better example pictures of their ranks? You know... ''bigger'' ones with better quality? Kind of like the ones the [[Sangheili]] have. -[[User:Stigma-231|<font color="black">Umos 'Qikost</font>]] <sup><font color="silver">Sword-wielding Minors and Shining Blue Spiders</font></sup> [[User talk:Stigma-231|<font color="D3D3D3"><sub>Comm</sub></font>]] 02:59, 4 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Unknown Rank== | |||
Is it possible that it is the Jackal Zealot, such as [[Zhar (Kig-yar)|Zhar]]?[[User:Spartan 112|Spartan 112]] 19:39, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== carbines == | |||
jackals DO have carbines in halo 2 without been given to them by the player | |||
yes, they do, on easier difficulties, especially in the level 'Regret' on the second above water tram-thing, three or four on easy have them like snipers and fire at you from the top of his temple, before you go rambo on the honor guards. | |||
==Early Conflict in History?== | |||
Apparently, before their introduction to the Covenant, the Jackals have very violent relations with another species. Does anyone know what species that is? | |||
Grunts...see [http://halopedian.com/Grunt_Rebellion this] | |||
[[User:ImperatorExercitus|<font color="red">Imperator</font>]][[User talk:ImperatorExercitus|<font color="blue">Exer</font>]][[Special:Contributions/ImperatorExercitus|<font color="green">Citus!</font>]] 01:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Skin tones == | |||
I know this may be a little off topic, but I'm putting together a Jackal Halloween costume and I want to know if the jackal skin tones vary by subspecies or if they are all that matted yellowish leopard spots design, thanks. | |||
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== Jackel pics == | |||
I have been thinking to make this article better if someone were to get pics of all the ranks from all the game and put them on the article. Cannot be me for I do not have an x-box and on the computer I have to play on safe mode. | |||
[[User:DilaBagomee|DilaBagomee]] | |||
== Muscular Jackals? == | |||
Are jackals muscular? They are described as weak, but in the game, they look muscular. [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<span style="color: lime; font-family: Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</span>]] 22:59, 27 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
A muscular creature with sharp teeth is no match for a heavy armored demon with a gun.--'''[[User:Shade Link|<font color="Black">Shade</font>]] [[User Talk:Shade Link|<font color="red">Link</font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Shade Link|<font color="Purple">Shadow</font>]]''' 00:25, September 21, 2009 (UTC) | |||
:If they were to go hand-to-hand with a regular Marine, who will win? <font color="lime">'''Teh lolz!'''</font> [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<span style="color: lime; font-family: Halo3,Papyrus; font-size: 12pt;">'''Bionicle+Lotr'''</span>]] 22:48, October 11, 2009 (UTC) | |||
Marines have armor and are physically stronger, but jackals have sharp claws and teeth. | |||
Note that the Kig-yar are around the same height as a Marine. I bet in a fist fight, the Marine will win though. :) -- [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 04:01, July 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
I always assumed that becuse they were based on birds that it ment they had holow bones so they couldn't take damage. I don't think they are weak per say but they certiantly can't take a hit.'''[[User talk:Dragrath1|Dragrath1]] 03:38, September 30, 2010 (UTC)''' | |||
== Teeth == | |||
Could Jackals use their teeth to bite other people? | |||
Of course they can, but with the modern armor and such, I doubt they bite enemies very often, unless they are left defenseless and the Kig-yar feels like prolonging the victims agony. -Esq Vratum | |||
== Jackal crystalline sabers == | |||
If you read the section of Contact Harvest where Johnson and Byrnes encounter Jackals, the Covenant, for the first time, they use type of blade that uses the same material as Needler rounds. Halo Helljumper #2 has these as well, where Jackals kill a bunch of ODST's with them. Should get an article or a mention here.--[[User talk:Halofighter92|Halofighter92]] 00:15, September 21, 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Do you know the exact name of the blade? I think I've seen an article about it, but I'm not sure. It was a while back. <font color="cyan">'''Teh lolz!'''</font> [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<span style="color: cyan; font-family: Halo3; font-size: 12pt;">'''Bionicle+Lotr'''</span>]] 00:18, September 21, 2009 (UTC) | |||
:[[Energy Cutlass]] I believe.[[User talk:Spartan 112|112]] 00:27, September 21, 2009 (UTC) | |||
== crystaline saber == | |||
the crystaline saber looks like whatr the skirmishers are using | |||
In Halo Reach? I don't remember seeing skirmishers wielding ANY melee weapons, only Needle Rifles, Plasma Pistols, Focus Rifles I think? Are you confused with the small energy shields that Skirmisher Champions use for arm guards? [[User talk:JimMy pAz Br07|JimMy StAcKeR]] 18:24, 13 February 2011 (EST) | |||
== Females scabs... == | |||
it seems like the females have scabs and stuff from male mating habits...so is it possible there are female kig-yar that havent mated yet that look like regukar males... | |||
:No, they have ''scales''. They are born with them. --[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Fluffball Gato]] 05:05, May 18, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Jackals & Skirmishers == | |||
Is it possible that the word Kig-Yar is actually a joining of the Jackals and Skirmishers? Perhaps in their own language its Kig=Jackals and Yar=Skirmishers? Just throwing it out there. [[User talk:XW3 AR3 L3GION|XW3 AR3 L3GION]] 12:34, July 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Kig-yar is a Sangheili word for that species.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 14:36, July 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Although the point still stands, perhaps its the Sangheili name for both jackal and skirmisher joined together? Anywhoo, where does it state that its a Sangheili name? The Halo Encyclopedia? [[User talk:XW3 AR3 L3GION|XW3 AR3 L3GION]] 20:23, July 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Halo: Ghosts of Onyx.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 20:26, July 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Other jackal species== | |||
I found an article about the jackals on waypoint, and they used the latin name of Lacerta erectus to or indicate either another sub-species of jackal or a different species altogether. However, it could also be it is just a discrepancy about the jackals' latin name. I want to know what is most likely before I make a new article altogether. here's the link: http://halo.xbox.com/en-au/intel/related/text/kig-yar/9b24ebed-1954-471b-908d-951528e8120c --[[User talk:Thijsbos|Thijsbos]] 11:32, 28 January 2011 (EST) | |||
:One edit: I noticed on the top of the article, behind the jackals' name, there is the Jackals' latin name, so it is not a discrepancy, but rather a new species altogether. And seeing as sub species would still have the family name Perosus same as the jackals, these must be a new species. --[[User talk:Thijsbos|Thijsbos]] 11:39, 28 January 2011 (EST) | |||
:Good catch. Lacerta erectus is likely to be a different species, as pointed out by the Bestiarum, as an example of another Low-G species, thus not strictly a family of the Kig-yar species. — <span style="font-size:200%; font-family:Freestyle Script;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 12:26, 28 January 2011 (EST) | |||
:The name translates to 'upright lizard' so I guess it will be somewhat related. But I'll create a new article about it then. Do you think it's homesystem is the same as that of the Jackals? --[[User talk:Thijsbos|Thijsbos]] 13:39, 28 January 2011 (EST) | |||
==2 subspecies== | |||
There are the skirmishers and the jackals from halo 2, right. Because in one of the graphic novels, I noticed it had both of them in it, but I noticed the article doesnt say anything about it, unless I missed it. Should I put it? If so, where in the article?--[[User talk:supersauce|supersauce]] 14:30, 13 February 2011 | |||
That's unlikely given that the skirmishers were nearly wiped out during the fall of reach.[[#@lof@n1234]] 17:35, 13 February 2011 (EST) | |||
No not the skirmishers. There were them, and another sub-species type thing. They are the halo 2 jackals, because in halo uprising it shows both halo 2 and 3 jackals. --[[User talk:supersauce|supersauce]] 14:42, 13 February 2011 | |||
Probably a different way to show jackals[[#@lof@n1234]] 18:09, 13 February 2011 (EST) | |||
== Ranks == | |||
The rank structure is screwed up. Gold armored skirmishers are actually the highest ranked, not the elbow shielded ones. Check firefight if you do not believe me. Check the number of Skirm. Leaders killed to Spec. and you'll notice the number is to high to match the elbow shields. It does however match the number of Gold armored enemies you fight. | |||
:-- [[User:Donut THX 1138|Donut THX 1138]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |Comm]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 01:37, 6 March 2011 (EST) | |||
==6 feet 8?== | |||
I'm not doubting the information on this site but isn't 6'8 pretty tall considering they look about the same height as Marines, most of whom are around the 6'0 mark. [[User talk:Kig|Anti-Anti-Elitism (what's makes SPARTANs better?)]] 10:59, 25 June 2011 (EDT)Kig | |||
:They're definitely taller than Marines. <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 21:17, 21 August 2011 (EDT) | |||