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Covenant Species Weights
I know there isn't much room in Wikis for jokes, but here's just one to start off a long analysis. Please don't ban me. Cracked.com ran an article called 5 Things We're Making Fatter in Addition to Ourselves. And I've noticed a somewhat similar trend over the Covenant species articles with their weights. They've almost all gone up, to somewhat ridiculous levels, with the exception of Elites, who have lost about 200 lbs. and Prophets, who've stayed the same.

I don't have precise figures to quote, but from memory here is a comparison of the original species weight to the current one:

Grunts: 118 kg/260 lbs (current) vs. 110 lbs (original)

Jackals: 88 kg/195 lbs (current) vs. ~150 lbs (original)

Drones: 130 kg/280 lbs (current) vs. ~130 lbs (original)

Brutes: 680 kg/1500 lbs (current) vs. 1100 lbs (original)

Just looking at these, the Grunt and Drone figures seem ridiculous. How does a Grunt, a much shorter and smaller creature than a human, weigh in so much heavier? And the Drone would be in the obese category in human classification, yet not only is it a pretty trim-looking creature, it's a flying one.

The Jackal and Brute aren't as egregious as this, but they're still somewhat implausible figures. The Jackal is supposed to have hollow bones and it looks pretty skinny, but it's probably the most acceptable figure out of these four. Before the Elite's weight was changed from around 500 to its present of around 320 lbs, the Brute weighed 1,100. So it weighed a little more than twice as much as an Elite. Plausible. Now with the new figures, the Brute weighs 5 times as much as an Elite. Which makes little sense to me.

The source of these figures seems to be the Halo Encyclopedia, and I think the standard is to use the newest material as the main source in case of conflicts. But we've all read through/contributed to the rants about how riddled with errors the Encyclopedia is, and I think I can see the source of the error in some of these cases.

The've mixed up kilograms with pounds.

It makes very strong sense for the Grunt and the Drone especially, because those kilogram figures are almost the same as the old pound figures. The Jackal would be a little bit on the anorexic side if it were only 88 pounds, so in that case the 195 lb. figure should probably be more correct. The Brute was always a heavyweight, but consider, if it were 680 pounds it would weigh a little more than twice as much as the old Elite did, the same that it used to be when the Elite was 500.

My proposal is to change the weights of the Grunt, Drone, and possibly the Brute so that it's the same number in pounds that it is now in kilograms. If it's unacceptable to consider correcting typos/errors in the Halo Encyclopedia like that, then my proposal is to find the more accurate-sounding numbers in the old sources, and replace the current ones with those. Flayer92 01:33, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * The Unggoy are 5 foot 6 inches. The Yanme'e are 5 foot 10 inches and the Kig-yar are 6 foot 8 inches. Just wanted to let you know in case you didn't notice yet. ;) --Invincibilityhud.svg Ultra Force  17:32, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Source formatting
I suggest we change formatting of sources for books and games because I think it looks a bit more precise. And here are my suggestions for my proposal: And as an example: If you want to source a quote from page of Halo Encyclopedia as an example:
 * 1) Books:, or if you want to link right to the book:
 * 2) Games:  ("Quote (optional)"), or if you want to link right to the game:

And for something like a section from a level in Halo 3:

setting, so they don't function properly and are near-unusable. Problem affects Firefox 3.6.3 Portable and possibly higher versions as well. Have not tested on other browsers -- can't at this time.

Simple fix that you guys could implement for Halopedia specifically:
 * 1) navigation div.sub-menu.widget{position:absolute}

The problem stems from some (useless) CSS meant for browsers with JavaScript turned off; the CSS sets submenus to. It seems to have been intended to make the menus usable with JS off. It has absolutely no useful effect, however, because the submenus don't even exist on the page when JS is off. (As part of Wikia's dreadful menu system, the menus are created dynamically, with their contents retrieved via AJAX.) This CSS, then, has no point; it may be safely overriden without further disadvantaging JS-less browsers.

So you can implement the fix listed above and solve the menu issue for Halopedia specifically, or you can wait for Wikia to fix the problem. Alternatively, if anyone here is friends with a Wikia staffer, you can pass the fix onto them and see what they can do for Wikia as a whole.

By the way, I've been away for a while. Love what you guys've done with the place.  DavidJCobb  22:24, September 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Added and done. Haven't encountered anyone having the problem so far. Anyway, don't be too happy. A new skin is coming out soon and will replace Monaco. Keep a look out for bugs. :) -  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 22:29, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

i think that's bogus
Personally, i think that the covenant soldiers have stayed in shape. in halo 3 they were almost all skinny. and if they do look fat, that is just their large amount of armor.

couldn't agree more,also arbiter had realy thick armor in halo wars,the he was stripped of rank and armor in halo 2 right? after that he fled to humans?or was it before that?(EliteHonorGuard 14:42, September 26, 2010 (UTC))

Halo Wars Arby and Halo:2/Halo:3 Arby are 2 different people/lizards/squids.Halo wars Arby dies at the end of the game and the Halo Trilogy's Arby was a Fleet Admiral in Halo:CE.He only became the Arbiter at the beginning of Halo:2 X Aikou x 01:36, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

What the?
Didn't Halopedia have a Reach theme a few days ago? This is very confusing.Blahmarrow 13:41, September 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was turned off like 20 minutes ago, actually.--  Fore  run  ner  13:47, September 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's over.-  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 13:43, September 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was a special theme for the release of Reach. We hadn't changed permanently. --Dragonc laws (talk ) 18:50, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah alright then. I thought there was a problem with something! Glad I was wrong!Blahmarrow 22:19, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually preferred the Reach theme. Ah well - change comes in leaps and bounds, for better or worse. --  Specops306   Autocrat     Qur'a 'Morhek   04:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually preferred the Reach theme. Ah well - change comes in leaps and bounds, for better or worse. --  Specops306   Autocrat     Qur'a 'Morhek   04:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Son of a $!*^%
There's a wiki called Gruntipedia that's mocking specific users! And this wiki! A quote from there "Halopedia page"

Well hello CommanderTony, I would just like to inform you that you are doing an amazing job here at the site and would like to get Adminiship.


 * — All suck-up Halopedians, which are Halo-343, Ghost_sangheili, Imperator, Ajax_013, some random baffoons, The SS, Nazis, and Phil


 * ive been to gruntapidia and let me tell you they hate our guts.i gave em a smackdown but a think a full scale invasion,ripping thier wiki apart would be nessacary.if anybodys with me,tell me what time.plus were gonna need the moderaters.HEY MODS,YOU WITH US? GRUNTIPIDIA IS MOCKING US,AND U SO HELP A BROTHER ELITE OUT K?(EliteHonorGuard 01:43, September 27, 2010 (UTC))


 * HEY! There will be no flame wars! Ever! If someone, Gruntipedia or otherwise, mocks us in a negative way, we will NOT retaliate! That is badness! Take the honorable approach and turn the other cheek, don't respond, just let others see them for the trolls they are. And this is all useless because Gruntipedia was made entirely by Halopedians. This is us mocking ourselves! --Dragonc laws (talk ) 03:59, September 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Can I have some opinions on the matter?Blahmarrow 22:34, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I only wish I had the honor of making so many edits here that someone made a parody of me. That would be great! Que   Sera,  Sera  22:39, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Gruntipedia is a branch-off of Halopedia, so I would call it a respectful parody... --Dragon<font color="#F28500">c laws (<font color="#4D56B1">talk ) 01:09, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Wow....i'm awesome.

Wow... Your narcissist.Blahmarrow 22:37, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

@EliteHonorGuard

Like I said, if anyone is mocking you, all that that means is that you are worthy of being mocked. Think about it, how cool would it be for someone to notice you so much that they make a parody of you? Are you familiar with the artist "Wierd Al" Yankovic? He makes parodies of songs, but he wouldn't even bother making a parody of a really bad song, because it wouldn't make any difference to anyone. He makes parodies of hit songs. Do you now see a parallel? No retaliation is neccesary, we're just that cool. Que  Sera,  Sera  04:28, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

dragonclaw im with u on that but thier not just mocking us,their driving away traffic from this wiki! that seems like its against the rules.they say WE are the laid back snoobs all about lazyness,wheras they are the information site! don't belive me?they changed our definition of halopiedia!!!!???? websearch halo piedia! just saying these guys crossed the line.and ever scince i read about elites on this wiki,i fell protective of it.just wish thoose noobs would stop stealing our web traffic.ill lay off but i wont be happy about it.dragon claw,buds?

@EliteHonorGuard: Honestly, you need to learn how to take a joke. If you seriously think that Halopedia should declare war on Gruntipedia for that, I guess wikipedia should also rally troops against that other humour wiki too?. In our case, the wikis are shared by almost the same people, nobody is insulting anyone.

Discussion ends here. On a funny note, someone must have forgot to include me in their Halopedia article. Epic lulz. -  Nìcmávr  ( Tálk  ) 14:53, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

i can take a joke,but realy i asked one stupid question here and they mocked me 5 times for it.if the mods over there had any since,they kick them.their talking about us GETTING RAPED thats not funny, thats not "hummor" unless your sick.

by the way, CammanderTony, who did you give the keys to gruntipiedia to? who "owns" it?EliteHonorGuard 00:05, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wikia owns it... Not just one person.  Russian Pope of Pwnage  Работа Говорить 00:46, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

The getting raped thing is a "Pedobear" joke. It's not a rape threat so much as a reference to the Pedobear character, which is an Internet meme rape joke. It's not in good taste, but it's not directly deriving humor from the idea of Halopedians being raped. --<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c laws (<font color="#4D56B1">talk ) 07:05, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

It appears I started another argument. All I asked was "can I have some opinions?" If you would rather have certain users mocked on a website, go for it. If you want war, go for it. my opinion is, drumm roll please... just asking them not to make negative comments to certain people on this wiki who did nothing. Mocking Left for dead though? Who's with me on that? I AM BLAHMARROW! RULER OF ARGUMENTS! Just kidding!Blahmarrow 22:35, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

sorry ive been a jerk
sorry,ive been a jerk over this.i was kidding about the war.disregaurd everything negitive ive said about you guys.truly sorry

EliteHonorGuard 04:16, September 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * I seem to have missed the action on this one, but it helps to remember that while 4chan is Not Your Personal Army, neither is Halopedia. Gruntipedia was set up by Halopedia members deliberately as a humour and parody version of us. Some of the jokes may fall flat, and may not even be jokes, but it's a free world and we're all entitled to mock everyone else, remembering that we ourselves can also be mocked. Mockery does not entitle us to go over and "mess their shit up", it entitles us to point and laugh, with or at them. --  Specops306   Autocrat     Qur'a 'Morhek   00:01, September 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * k as u guys know i was totaly kidding about the war.so let's drop it.by the way,i think this was pretty fun.i never disliked grutipiedia.their "insults" are halarios.you could die laughuing at it.i know about the rape thing.i was totaly kidding about everything.plus i got to meet TWO "ringmasters" of the wikis.my acout has only exsisted for a week and look how much fun we'v had.i knew nothing had been going on for about a few months,so i decided to spike things up with a war.got a lot of peoples attention which was the plan.(thank me latter)so have fun and i'll look forward to getting info from here,and laughing REALY hard at gruntipeidia.thanks everybody.have fun.(now's latter so thank me) :) tony,thanks for the awsome site.ropr thanks for the laugh out loud comedie central.check out my energy sword link to everything energy swords!from info to gliches!im dragging on so bye! EliteHonorGuard 03:42, September 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * umm,not to push anybody,but pope,administraiter,CAN U PLEASE REMOVE THE BLOCK? TRUST ME,IM A GOOD WARRIER,SO I CAN WAIT UNTILL THE BLOCK WHERES OFF,BUT AS I SAID UP ABOVE I WAS KIDDING ABOUT THE WHOLE THING.JUST LOOK AT MY PLEE,PLEASE? GET BACK TO ME K? EliteHonorGuard 03:54, September 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * So basically, you're admitting to trolling our site? --  Specops306   Autocrat     Qur'a 'Morhek   04:10, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * i was not "trolling" anybody.the site had been inactive for a couple of months.you missed all the fun.
 * EliteHonorGuard 14:55, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Whatever you choose to label it, it's absolutely unacceptable. Tell the truth and don't antagonize people for fun. --<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c laws (<font color="#4D56B1">talk ) 22:14, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't mind me asking, but how did you get blocked? Vandalism? Trolling? If you don't want to just say so.Blahmarrow 22:40, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * EHG was banned for harassment on both wikis. --<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c laws (<font color="#4D56B1">talk ) 22:48, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

"New content" on Reach articles
I think the game has been out long enough that we can start removing this tag on some articles like commendations and medals, where all the information is already there. Yea/nay? KickButtUnggoy 21:46, September 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * It depends on the page, use your best judgment. Que   Sera,  Sera  19:23, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agreeBlahmarrow 22:40, September 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * As long as it's removed once the page in question has been updated with the new content. There's really no point in removing it until then, since it kind of defeats the whole purpose of the template. Sometimes "new content" can get added weeks or even months after a new title has been released. But yeah, if all the available info is there, go right ahead. --<font color="MidnightBlue">Jugus (<font color="Gray">Talk  | <font color="Gray">Contribs ) 19:23, September 30, 2010 (UTC)