User talk:Manticore

IRC nicknames: Manticore, Manticore|Away (Op)

No
I dont think they will, and i didnt do any harm with my rollback, i just re-added a link you took out. Just take out wat you feel is wrong in the articals, they are used in halo so they should get a artical on them on the web site about halo stuff!-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 02:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * have you read or played anything halo? Terms like squad, platoon, company, ect. are used. If you dont like whats on teh pages then re-write them and make them how you feel they should be.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan  [[Image:Sm Sniper Rifle.gif]]  BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 02:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Well if you payed more attention, had some common sense and read in between the lines you'd find there comanders, ranks and maybe some numbers are metioned. And did you ever think to put the conjecture template on it? Hmm?-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan  [[Image:Sm Sniper Rifle.gif]]  BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 02:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * No the delete template is not far more appropriate. The conjecture is far more appropriate because all the ranks are right and same with the units but sence it is 500 hundred years from now the numbers might have changed but probabley not sence they were made by humans in OUR TIME bassing their stuff on the american military's!-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan  [[Image:Sm Sniper Rifle.gif]]  BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 02:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

M19 SSM Poll
Hey! I NEED your vote on User:Spartan781/Project. Go there and vote. Thanks! --Sp art an7 81  CommCSV 06:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

M19 SSM Poll
Hey wait, who got the idea that M19 and M41 are both different launchers anyway? Bungie didn't say anything about those two right? Not even telling whether they are the same or not. Stupid Bungie.... :-) --Sp art an7 81  CommCSV 09:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I tried to find one reference from Bungie but all my efforts were in vain. I actually spent about 4 hours in the afternoon trying to find one. --Sp art an7 81  [[Image:Kill_Frenzy_Medal.gif|30px]] CommCSV 09:06, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

M19/M41 Debate (Yep it's back again!)
Dear Manticore,

Initially I had doubts about this, but I've done some research using only Bungie related sources and have found myself agreeing with Spartan781. I have collated this research on the User:Spartan781/Project. I wondered if you could take a look at it and see if it changes your opinion on the matter. Thankyou for your time, A Monument to All Your Sins 22:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

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Its Spartan 1138. My aunts ISP won't keep me logged in.-- Spartan 1138

M19 SSM Poll results
Er...can you help me get some official info about the M41 launcher? I need proof for my project voting page. They all demand one from me. I spent a total of probably more than 9 hours(over several days) to find one. PLEASE HELP ME!!!! I'm desperate! If you manage to find one, you'll get a very nice award from me(I'll create a special one for you). Thank you very much! --Sp art an7 81  CommCSV 10:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah, and be sure to check User:Spartan781/Project again. User:A Monument to All Your Sins posted some new evidence there. See if it changes your mind. Thanks!(oh dear I'm losing badly!)

--<font color="#D3D3D3">Sp <font color="#A9A9A9">art <font color="#808080">an7 <font color="#000000">81  CommCSV 10:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Rocket Launcher Debate
Dear Manticore, wasn't sure if you'd had a chance to see this yet so I've sent it to you, it's Bungie sources for Spartan 781's argument. Ok, here we go. The Rocket Launcher wielded in Halo Combat Evolved according to the game manual was the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" so this name is Bungie approved. However the in game weapon model clearly shows the marking "M41 MAV/AW" printed above the "correct usage" diagram. This is the source of the naming problem.

In Halo 2 the Rocket Launcher was altered, this we agree on, the main alteration being the new lock on ability. In the both versions of the Halo 2 manual this weapon is once again designated the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" and likewise the weapon model again bears the "M41 MAV/AW" marking.

On Halo3.com the Rocket Launcher is reffered to only as the "M41 Rocket Launcher" and from the public Beta it appears to be the same variation as that in Combat Evolved. This version has no acronyms after it which has caused many to view it as a new Rocket Launcher type. All of these sources are directly from Bungie.

So the "M41 MAV/AW" section of the name could be the model number of the Rocket Launcher, an overall designation for that class of weapon. Since both homing and non-homing versions of the rocket launcher, from Halo 2 and Halo: Combat Evolved respectively, are called the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" perhaps it should all be one section.

But what of the acronyms, what do they mean? Do they help in this debate? Using the website and their military acronym list. The SSM part of "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" probably refers to it's nature as a Surface-to-Surface-Missile launcher. As for "M41 MAV/AW" could represent Minimum Acceptable Value/Automatic Weapon which would coincide with the launchers nature as a slow firing, automatic weapon (the automated rotation of the missile tubes into firing position).

Since the M41 section is printed on the launcher for the rocket tubes, is it not possible that this is the designation for the launcher? But once the tubes and launcher are combined into an actual offensive weapon it is known as the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher". Just food for thought.

I am of the conclusion that the M41 and the M19 are infact two designations for the same weapon. As such only one page should exist, or atleast a disambiguation page named "M41 MAV/AW" with a subheading dealing with the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" and the homing/non homing variations.

We should take the game manuals to be gospel in this case. Both the Halo and Halo 2 Rocket Launchers are listed as the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" in these manuals. Other than in a third-party guidebook (and therefore non-direct Bungie source) this has been the case throughout. At least we should stop referring to the M41 as the Halo 2 Rocket launcher. Since we do not have a copy of Halo 3, by all means leave the Halo 3 Rocket Launcher name as undecided, perhaps it should be placed in its own category as a subheading in the "M19 SSM" Section.

I apologise for the length of this, :-) Please respond, thanks.