Talk:M52B body armor

Isn't that image from Halo: Combat Evolved? --Dragonclaws(talk) 20:18, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Ya it should be halo 2 armour for the source of this info is from halo 2 on boxs.--The Chazz 20:37, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually,that is the halo 2 marine armor.--Odst276 05:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Armor Variations
The armor crates in Halo 3 are listed as being the same as they were in Halo 3, and though the article suggests that it is a retroactive continuity mechanism, the boxes still show the armor worn by the marines in Halo 2. If the change in armor from game-to-game is a retcon, it is quite haphazard. The graphical and art change from Halo 2 to Halo 3 is substantially less than Halo 1 to 3, and given the presence of slip-ups here and there, it might be too hasty to call it a retcon.

However, if you look at the Halo 2 marine armor, it looks very light compared to its Halo 3 iteration. The marines that assist you in Halo 2 that wear the armor are not many in number, and the number wearing the Halo 3 version are more numerous. If anything, the armor in Halo 3 and ODST is likely a more recent variant of the armor worn by the Marines, and the ones worn in Halo 2 are an older version.

Even with Earth having a concentration of high-quality combat material, its not going to be possible for everyone to have the best equipment. It is quite likely that it would be a mix of newer and older equipment, and keeping somewhat older but still useful items makes perfect sense. Given thet UNSC's relatively impoverished state, this is very likely.

From this, it is possible to suggest that the Marines in Halo 2 happened to have lighter armor than other units and regiments, depending on where they were and what was in the inventory. In the defense of Earth, it is likely that all useful military items were used, including lighter armor sets.

Don't forget that the majority of the Marines wearing the Halo 2 version were on the In Amber Clad, with some on the Cairo and sprinkled around New Mombasa. Given the almost certainly varying levels of light, moderate, and heavy-duty equipment used by UNSC forces, it seems rather extreme and hasty to assume that all marine units wore the exact same armor without any bit of variation, rather allowing such a likely possibility to exist.

Look at real military forces, including our own; there is a wide diversity of attire and armor sets, some more up-to-date than others, and a lot of older and nearly obsolete items as well. The UNSC, given how it is presented, would be no different.

So that item in the trivia section should either be removed, or labeled as having no source, since it is largely speculation.

--Exalted Obliteration 02:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * So not a retcon, just recycling. Makes sense. I agree, but should one of us just strike that bit from the Trivia section or wait for more opinions? [[Image:DavidJCobb_Emblem.png|16px]] DavidJCobb  02:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree completely. As much as people talk about "artistic licensing" and "graphical improvements" and whatnot, I'm still fairly certain that this armor article should only designate the armor that its canonically shown to represent: the Halo 2 version of the marine armor. Exalted Obliteration is completely right when he says that military divisions would use a wide variety of armor and equipment. We hold canon sacred at Halopedia, so can't we just go with the safe bet and separate the articles? --Nerfherder1428 15:19, October 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * Splitting done: There's now a main article for the Marine combat uniform in general:UNSC Marine Corps Battle Dress Uniform. --Jugus 09:40, October 19, 2009 (UTC)