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Just curious, why did you revert the changes that I made? E: and if you reply "no evidences" it's a trivia section. Trivia section is made for speculation FlamingRain 14:19, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Trivia information should be provided with proper sources and evidences. Otherwise, you'll find the Battle Rifle article to be full of trivia such as "This is a UNSC Weapon", "It is used mostly by Humans", "You can make headshots with it", "It can be used to snipe people".-  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 14:23, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

okay. I think that's pretty retarded but I guess I'll go back and revert and cite a source with it.
 * No. First state your issue in the talk page of the article and if everyone agrees with you, then add it.-  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 14:26, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

You keep wiping the talk page though.--Sandor051 18:34, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Because it is irrelevant to the article. People keep trying to notify the community that Jorge-052 sounds British. Why is that so important? Sense of nationalism? Sense of pride? Sense of patriotism? We don't practise that in Halopedia. It is idiotic and complete nonsense. Unless it is a whole different case, it stays deleted.-  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 19:06, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

It's notable. That would be why. And irrelevant of what you think, wiping the talk page is baffling. Because it would be the perfect place to discuss this. --Sandor051 21:07, December 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree with Sandor. Wiping the talk page is pointless and appears reminiscent of the Cold War days when Russia blamed all it's failures on something impossible and then erased all pertinent evidence. Out of that, only the erasing of evidence applies here. The talk page should be kept as a record of debated materials. There's bound to be someone who will come along later thinking to put some tidbit in a page that has already been agreed upon as irrelevant. Except this fellow wouldn't know that, since the talk page is empty.
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 * Actually, it's not notable. It is redundant. It's just the voiceactor's voice. What if it were to be a Chinese voiceactor, would that be notable? No. If the talk page contains good discussions that directly affects the content of the article (such as verifying rumours or expanding facts), then it can stay.
 * To OrionF22: Problem is that the talk page contains discussion which is irrelevant to the article itself. We do not delete talk pages without any proper reasoning. If it were to contain social discussion which does not improve/enhance the article itself, what's the point of having a talk page?-  5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 21:15, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

"Actually, it's not notable. It is redundant. It's just the voiceactor's voice. What if it were to be a Chinese voiceactor, would that be notable?"

- You


 * That right there sounds worth mentioning in the talk page so you don't have to have the same issue again with another editor. What if you encounter this problem again? Had you left that part of the talk page alone, the editor might have been smart enough to look at it and realize that it had already been addressed. For this reason I believe that any piece of information referring to the article, no matter how seemingly irrelevant, should be left alone, so that some bozo doesn't repeat the same thing all over again. I understand why you would want to remove the social aspects, but if this socializing is discussing the article and what to do with it, then that too should be left alone. I thought that was what a talk page was for. So far, I haven't seen anything in a talk page worth deleting.


 * There is probably some two-watt out there who put something ridiculous in a talk page (or will). Perhaps it was a duplicate. That should be deleted, but perhaps a new subtopic should be created addressing the deletion of such content? This would allow users to chip in and voice their opinions as to the relevancy of this article, instead of just deleting it outright and leaving some users inquisitive as to why.
 * Gunnery_Sergeant.png <span style="background-color:darkgray; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px"> ΘяɪɸɴF22  style="background-color:darkgray; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px">  Me<span style="background-color:darkgray; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px">  Talk    Contributions  style="background-color:darkgray; color:gold; -moz-border-radiusbottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px">  CAG 21:24, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Halopedia is not a social site. If they insist on doing so, just use the Message Board feature provided by Wikia. Again, if it is related to the article and it could improve the article, it would stay. If the discussion strays off from the original topic, then it will be removed.
 * Regarding the voiceactor issue, it would be far better to have a link to the voiceactor profile (example, "He/She was voiced by INSERT VOICEACTOR HERE) rather than having a trivia which goes as such "This SPARTAN has an English accent" which is redundant and does not give any real information. This has been put into practise in Halopedia ever since it was first created.- <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 21:36, December 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * I understand non-relevent topics will be removed. I'm not arguing that they stay. I am arguing that minor, seemingly inconsequential topics be left in so that something similar is not repeated. Otherwise you may have to deal with 100s of editors thinking the mention of an accent is noteworthy. I see how it looks so insignificant and trivial that it should be forgotten, but I argue that it stay so you don't have similar problems down the road. Additionally, this should reduce the number of pointless or trivial edits if users can look at the talk page and see that what they want to put in is already addressed.
 * Gunnery_Sergeant.png <span style="background-color:darkgray; color:white; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px"> ΘяɪɸɴF22  style="background-color:darkgray; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px">  Me<span style="background-color:darkgray; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:24px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:24px">  Talk    Contributions  style="background-color:darkgray; color:gold; -moz-border-radiusbottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px">  CAG 21:48, December 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand. :)
 * Just a suggestion: Keep the signature simple. :P - <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 21:54, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yes this Wiki isn’t a social site. But a debate on whether or not the accent is notable is exactly why the talk page is there. So we can decide what relevance the information has, and lay out arguments for/against inclusion. And we do have precedence, for example it is considered notable that Byrne is the only Irish character seen thus far in Halo. Further I would consider it notable to mention if a character had a Chinese accent. It’s an integral part of their character, or at least it influences the way they are interpreted, a filter through which the user percieves them. --Sandor051 12:58, December 16, 2009 (UTC) "Regarding the voiceactor issue, it would be far better to have a link to the voiceactor profile (example, "He/She was voiced by INSERT VOICEACTOR HERE) rather than having a trivia which goes as such "This SPARTAN has an English accent" which is redundant and does not give any real information. This has been put into practise in Halopedia ever since it was first created."

- Accent issue


 * Again, the solution to this issue is not to mention what accent they have, but to point out who is the voiceactor. This issue has been resolved in the past.- <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 13:43, December 16, 2009 (UTC)