Talk:BOB

Appearances?
So, where do these yellow armored Rangers appear? And is it difficulty specific? Matt 2108 23:15, September 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * This link provides some hints.-  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 23:18, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hold on, how do you know that the Yellow Rangers are actually BOBs? Does it say at any point in the game that they are?


 * Killing a BOB will allow you to earn a 'Ranger' medal which can only be viewed on Bungie.net. There is a small heading on it that says 'BOB'. That is where its name comes from. --Noblelogo.png 'Mmm... Jackal Stew' 07:06, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Only Ranger Armor?
I've noticed that not all of the Seek and Destroy medals I've been getting on B.net are for the gold-armored Rangers. In fact, the only gold-armored Rangers I've seen were on the Corvette's bridge. One I thing I have noticed though are special silver armored Elites with random armor permutations. The most obvious ones are on Sword Base: the first is to the left of the garage where you fight Hunters (Heroic and Legendary); the second is inside, on the floor below where the General spawns (Easy and Normal). I've seen these Elites have Ultra, Field Marshall, Zealot, and Ranger armor, but they've all had pure silver armor and dual Plasma Rifles. More importantly, they have all counted as BOB kills. Has anyone else noticed this?  Captain Baird  Comm-LinkService Record 03:01, September 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have also encountered a BOB that was not a Ranger. Rather it was a Minor, inside Sword Base when you are heading to Emile. It was just a white armored Minor. Spartan 112 16:19, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes. On ONI Sword Base, some BOBs show up as white elites dual wielding plasma rifle's with varying rank armour. so If you see a page making a comment about a super rare white zealot or something simaler, please change it Jabberwock xeno 22:04, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * On ONI Sword Base (Normal) I have run into BOB Minors, Officers, and Zealots (Not Marshall). All of them have pure white armor and duel wield Plasma Rifles, and are always located underneath the platform the General with the Concussion Rifle/Fuel Rod Gun (just before you help out Emile with the Banshees). I've also encountered at least one Gold Ranger on every level, including Lone Wolf. I've never noted Ranger BOBs disappearing, but I've seen it happen many times with the white ones. My question is, are white BOBs on any level besides Sword Base? Also, do white Ranger BOBs and/or BOB Ultras exist? I've played through campaign on Heroic and haven't seen any whatsoever besides the ones mentioned above. If they do exist, do they only appear on Legendary?One who survived 00:50, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * On ONI Sword Base (Normal) I have run into BOB Minors, Officers, and Zealots (Not Marshall). All of them have pure white armor and duel wield Plasma Rifles, and are always located underneath the platform the General with the Concussion Rifle/Fuel Rod Gun (just before you help out Emile with the Banshees). I've also encountered at least one Gold Ranger on every level, including Lone Wolf. I've never noted Ranger BOBs disappearing, but I've seen it happen many times with the white ones. My question is, are white BOBs on any level besides Sword Base? Also, do white Ranger BOBs and/or BOB Ultras exist? I've played through campaign on Heroic and haven't seen any whatsoever besides the ones mentioned above. If they do exist, do they only appear on Legendary?One who survived 00:50, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * On ONI Sword Base (Normal) I have run into BOB Minors, Officers, and Zealots (Not Marshall). All of them have pure white armor and duel wield Plasma Rifles, and are always located underneath the platform the General with the Concussion Rifle/Fuel Rod Gun (just before you help out Emile with the Banshees). I've also encountered at least one Gold Ranger on every level, including Lone Wolf. I've never noted Ranger BOBs disappearing, but I've seen it happen many times with the white ones. My question is, are white BOBs on any level besides Sword Base? Also, do white Ranger BOBs and/or BOB Ultras exist? I've played through campaign on Heroic and haven't seen any whatsoever besides the ones mentioned above. If they do exist, do they only appear on Legendary?One who survived 00:50, October 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * They do exist in Field Marshall form. I've ran into a white one at the beginning of Sword Base when you fight through the courtyard area. I got it on, you guessed it, Legendary, and with the Thunderstorm skull on. Now, that's the only time I've seen one in Marshall form, but a friend of mine swears he saw the same one once on Normal. File:If they came to hear me beg.png|15px]] Lt. Agreon  Talk  10:40, 2 November 2010 (EDT)

Escuse me, but what makes these elites "BOBs" in the first place? They are just a special variety of elite, there's not reason to call them BOBs like in Marathon.Nazzer 16:08, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps bungie put up a post or something about these BOBs

If you know you've killed a BOB, on Bungie.net, if you look your kills by enemy, you'll see they're listed as "Elite Rangers" with their classification underneath saying "BOB". KRZYBCH 15:39, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

After a lot of research, I have found that the white BOBs on ONI: Sword Base always duel wield plasma rifles, are immune to assassinations, and wear minor, officer, ranger (only seen once), spec ops (rare), Ultra (rare) general (rare), zealot, and field marshall (rare), all on normal and all wearing white.--One who survived 20:19, 20 December 2010 (EST)

Legendary Ending Correlation?
I've found theories elsewhere online that killing all of the BOBs in a single playthrough would unlock the Legendary Ending.... Has anyone else heard/seen/agree with this? KRZYBCH 17:14, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well now, it's called the Legendary Ending for a reason, don't ya think? I mean, otherwise they would call it the BOB Ending. Echo-77 00:57, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Well if you did try this it would take atleast a week because of the theory that each BOB only appears on one day of the week so it is unlikelyJamesgg521 22:06, 19 November 2010 (EST)

Is that Elite on the top a BOB?
That one shouldn't be, because it doesn't have a duel-wield. Someone should delete that... File:If they came to hear me beg.png|15px]] Lt. Agreon  Talk  20:30, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * The duel-wielding, white-armored BOBs only appear on ONI: Sword Base. In all other levels the BOBs are gold-armored Rangers.  Reading is fundamental. Matt 2108 20:41, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry that I got that confused. I've found some white ones with ultra armor that duel-wield (I checked, got the medal) on Night of Long Solstice, so that doesn't seem to be entirely correct. Correct me if I am wrong File:If they came to hear me beg.png|15px]] Lt. Agreon  Talk  10:33, 2 November 2010 (EDT)

Long night of solace BOB?
Is the yellow ranger sangheili on the bridge of the corvette, in the 'Long night of solace' mission, counted as a BOB? because I have never got a medal for killing it, but I've never actually looked!

Thanks, Tentacle tornado   16:56, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * The boss-type-ish one? That runs around pulverizing innocent SPARTAN faces with a concussion rifle using a strafe-like style? If that's the one, no. File:If they came to hear me beg.png|15px]] Lt. Agreon  Talk  10:35, 2 November 2010 (EDT)
 * No, it didn't wield a concussion rifle, I think you might be talking about the general. And I was talking about the yellow ranger.-- Tentacle tornado  15:33, 2 November 2010 (EDT)

You usually have to move fast and try to either use a rocket launcher or assassinate him. Second idea bad though.--Blahmarrow 18:23, 3 November 2010 (EDT)

21 BOBs?
I believe that there are 21 BOBs, just a theory as many others. I think this becasue i have seen 18 already:

Winter contingency: 3

ONI: Sword Base: 2

Nightfall: 3

Tip of the Spear: 2 (i believe there is one more)

Long Night of Solace: 3

Exodus: No elites

New Alexandría: 0

The Package: 2 (i believe there is one more)

The Pillar of Autunm: 2 (i believe there is one more)

Lone Wolfe: 1

TOTAL: 21

So, the reason i believe there are at least 21 is Bungie, they love 7: 21/3=7

I would like to know what you guys think, remember this is just a theory. Siul S-249 14:29, 18 December 2010 (EST)

So far, your numbers seem to be correct. -- CoD addict  //  talk  // 17:44, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

You know you might be right but I think that you may be mistakened. Once at the beginning of the level nightfall I killed a golden armored ranger but I didn't get that medal so there is a chance that there are normal golden rangers so if you do do this wild BOB hunt, be sure to make sure you get that seek and destroy medalfor each one.Jamesgg521 22:03, 19 November 2010 (EST)

The problem is that i do not have Xbox Live yet, so i cannot check the medal, and now, i have a new list since now i have 27 different spawn locations:

Winter Contingency: 7 (Interesting number, eh?) (3 on the first settlement, 2 on the other settlemets each)

ONI: Sword Base: 2 (Why havent anybody added images of these BOBs with Ranger armor?)

Nightfall: 3 (Possibly 4) (I played and didnt spawned any, confirmed by Theater mode)

Tip of the Spear: 4 (Possibly 5)(I played and didnt spawned any, confirmed by Theater mode)

Long Night of Solace: 5 (3 drop pods, 2 on the corvette)

The Package: 3

The Pillar of Autunm: 2

Lone Wolf: 1

I have killed all of them on legendary, the one on lone wolf was hard, but i found how to do it, just hide on the boxes for more than 1 hour, the kill a grunt, 4 generals will spawn, if you play with Tilt it is easier, kill the 4 generals and the BOB will come to you before other enemies. Siul S-249 14:29, 18 December 2010 (EST)

BOB on Nightfall
I have seen a BOB on Nightfall. See here: http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=390620806&player=MstrChiefAlexEd. - 99alextheman99 18:47, 19 March 2011 (EDT)

What does BOB mean anyway? :)
Sorry if I'm being a complete noob but does it stand for something? I'm not a complete Halo noob btw :D Some things just slip past me that's all :D


 * :) Hope this helps. Oh, and new discussions go to the bottom of the page. — S331 Bubbleshieldhud.svg(When I played Halo: CE, we didn't have any fancy-shmancy armor abilities...) 07:59, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Thanks for the reply, yeah that helped loads cheers. Oh and sorry about the new discussion thingy, I'm new here so you have to forgive me :P

Thanks a lot, ODST 032 ;;===]::::::::::::>> 11:53, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Confirmed
It was confirmed yesterday with the Golden Oportunity that the "Banshee BOB" at the end of The Package is not a BOB, but all supposed BOB banshees on Exodus and New Alezandria are BOBs.

I removed the information about that fake BOB banshee.


 * BTW, sorry about the post above, i forgot to sign it...

The link that confirms that is here http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=59238815&viewreplies=true&postRepeater1-p=162 check Paul Torrance´s post. Siul S-249 19:24, 8 August 2011 (EDT)

Important stuff about BoBs right now.
Please, if anyone interested in this particular unique elites then help me to clear this misteries.

First, you may see that when I created the locations list I wrote one that says "From the glassed area to Club Errera". The problem i that i cannot confirm this one.But it has a possible appearance on this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyukOEpgSaQ

I will erase it soon if nobody can get it to spawn. I have tried hundreds of times, and I only get the 4 that have been confirmed.

Also this is a mail from the main creator of Tip of the Spear:

Dear Lord Friendship,

I took a little time to look into the case of the missing Gold Ranger Elite. It's been a while since I've looked at these scripts. At first I thought there was (as you suggest in your post) a bug that prevented Bob from spawning 25% of the time. At the top of the script I noticed the random value assigned to the spawn variable was set to a value ranging between 1-4. The script was then evaluating this variable but there was were only three values it was checking for: 1-3. This confused me at first but then someone (thanks Dom!) pointed out that the last function checks for a value greater than or equal to 3. So basically the likelihood that Bob will spawn in the final area is 50% and the other two are 25% each. Also, it should be noted that the three Bobs that spawn in your lower screenshot are all controlled by the same spawning function but this particular Bob squad (even a single AI is referred to as a squad) has three starting locations that the engine randomly chooses from.

In any case, it appears that the script is working as designed and I don't see any reason why Bob wouldn't be spawning in.

All of that being said, it would appear that you have not identified one of the locations of Bob in this mission. According to the scripts and the object placements in the level editor, there is one more place that he should be spawning. On the other hand, with the amount of time you've put into the game, I can't believe you wouldn't have seen him unless there is a bug preventing it. Ahhh, the mysteries of life.

Thanks for posting your question. I hope this reply was at least somewhat interesting. Smiley

Niles"

He says we are still missing BoB (or even 2 more) on TotS. Siul S-249 10:21, 2 February 2012 (EST)

New information
http://www.halopedian.com/index.php?title=Talk:BOB&action=edit&section=new

You can find the post of Lord Zedd. This guy explored the map files searching for the BOBs.

This is what he found:

winter: 1 with 14 spawns oni: 5 different night: 3 different tip: 3 different, 5 spawns (one with 3) long: 3 different exodus 3 different alexandria: 1 with 4 spawns package: 3 different pillar: 2 different lone: 1 spawn

WC: I suspected that there were more than 7 on Winter Contingency before he did this, but never actually prooved it. If you think its hard to notice, you can compare the spawn points of the BOBs on Legendary and any other difficulty, you will easily see the difference.

Now we have 14 on WC, but it is not worth adding it in the article, since they spawn almost in the same location.

OSB: I never suspected that there were 3 more in this mission.

Bob1: "sq_far_bob" Dual Wielding Plasma Rifles Coords: 34.5267, -68.30871, 5.770611

Bob2: "sq_air_far_bob" Dual Wielding Plasma Rifles OR a Concussion Rifle (Or maybe the Concussion Rifle is a secondary, not 100% yet) Coords: -8.661929, -154.7053, 4.452001

Bob3: "sq_air_bob" Single Plasma Rifle Coords: -134.5031, -130.8608, 11.65025

Bob4: "sq_garage_bob" Dual Wielding Plasma Rifles Coords: -83.24402, 47.80528, 16.50049

Bob5: "sq_sword_bob" Dual Wielding Plasma Rifles Coords: -122.5402, 31.87342, 26.50025

No matter what I do, one of the 2 that we have seen in the past spawns. I believe these need to be triggered somehow, or just squads that have no spawn action in the level (i mean that Bungie maybe didnt add those 3 for real).

TotS: We have been searching for this BOB for now over a year. How is that we still dont see it?

Bob2: "sq_cannon_bob" Concussion Rifle Coords: -93.87444, -107.5462, -20.49681

This is the BOB location for the one we have never seen. It is supposed to be on the are of the second AA gun, but i have tried many times and i dont get it to spawn.

NA: This find prooves that the misterious banshee BOB that had a possible appearance on a video is not a BOB.

Any help with the OSB and TotS BOBs would be appreciated. Siul S-249 21:01, 9 March 2012 (EST)

Recently discovered BOB
So the BOB I just added was discovered a few days back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=230EDs0Y7sk&list=UUU__u0ODdr5FJy7ReHPGkPg

If somebody could put this on the sources for the second TotS BOB, I would be thankful.

I'm also gathering sources for all BOBs. Mainly, I'll get a screenshot of everyone of them.

And something I overlooked a while ago. The number of BOBs on Winter Contingency is actually 14 and not 7. The spawns on Legendary differ slightly from the other difficulties. I will correct this as soon as I have the screenshot if nobody opposes.. Siul S-249 (talk) 17:45, 1 October 2014 (EDT)

BOBs and Ranger Commanders
The Halo Waypoint Sangheili page names an image the gold-armored BOB as "Ranger Commander". However, our article claims there are also white-armored BOBs (I'm not sure if there are) which would mean that the "BOB" enemy class encompasses different types of Ranger. If there are indeed different colored BOBs it's probably more prudent to just make a separate page for the in-universe Ranger Commander rank and keep this one as it is as a gameplay-oriented guide. --Jugus (Talk  | Contribs ) 01:58, 17 December 2015 (EST)


 * White armored BOBs are real. While they appear only on the level ONI: Sword Base, they give the points for the BOB daily challenge, even though it says "the gold armored Ranger-class Elite".  Tuckerscreator (stalk ) 03:21, 17 December 2015 (EST)


 * In that case it doesn't really make sense to refocus this page to be about Ranger Commanders. BOBs are pretty hazy canon-wise anyway, so it's probably best to keep the focus of this page on them in the context of the gameplay while making another for Ranger Commanders as a canonical rank. --Jugus (Talk  | Contribs ) 03:28, 17 December 2015 (EST)

I would hesitate to start calling the Goldies Ranger Commanders, we only have a single title of a photo and nothing else that I am aware of at least. Alertfiend - Team Chief 04:11, 17 December 2015 (EST)


 * Well seeing as it is in the Sangheili article. I would say this time its safe to call them Ranger Commanders, Grim and the writing team did take ages sorting these out so I can bet they were fact checked. I mean worst case scenario we need to change the name of the page. - CIA391 - Talk 11:12, 17 December 2015 (GMT)


 * I agree with CIA, though, I think we should make a separate page for the Ranger Commanders while still have the BOB page (where we could acknowledge Ranger Commanders are classified as BOBs in Reach). - Draft227 - Talk 12:31, 17 December 2015 (EST)


 * @CIA: As I said, I'm fine with calling the gold Rangers Ranger Commanders, but since there are white BOBs too it's more appropriate to keep this page about the BOBs as an enemy type and make a separate one for Ranger Commanders as a rank as it exists in canon. --Jugus (Talk  | Contribs ) 02:55, 18 December 2015 (EST)


 * There isn't much we could add to a hypothetical Ranger Commander page that we wouldn't already have on this page. My opinion is that we should keep it to this page, and add a mention that they've been referred to as Ranger Commanders on Waypoint. (These guys don't even appear to be much of commanders; they're usually off on their own in obscure places rather than commanding troops like a General...) Tuckerscreator (stalk ) 03:17, 18 December 2015 (EST)


 * Good point - there's really no point in creating another stub. Unless we get more info on the supposed Ranger Commanders, the name is more of a piece of trivia than a proper canonical rank. And retitling this page to such an obscure alternate name instead of the one everyone uses isn't a very appealing option to me either, not when the page is written from a decidedly real-world POV. --Jugus (<font color="Gray">Talk  | <font color="Gray">Contribs ) 03:50, 18 December 2015 (EST)


 * Huh, was playing Warzone today and found there actually is a boss enemy called a Ranger Commander, though it doesn't look anything like these BOBs. So should we make a Ranger Commander page, we could include a mention of these gold Rangers being listed as such, but otherwise keep the classes separate. Tuckerscreator (<font color="#008000">stalk ) 16:44, 18 December 2015 (EST)