Archive:Requests for Move/Covenant Empire - July 2010

Recently, CoalitionofIndependantRepublics questioned the name of the article "Covenant Empire". After checking through literature, I have found only one instance: page 129 of Halo: Ghosts of Onyx. While this indeed refers to the power as the "Covenant Empire", Halo-343 disagrees on the name.

Originally, this article was simply "Covenant". Heavy usage of that name meant that "The Covenant" was used as a disambiguation page. It was then moved to "Covenant Empire" by CommanderTony, who felt that replacing "Covenant" as the disambig. and using "The Covenant" as the empire's article was absurd, moved it to "Covenant Empire" to make disambiguating realistic (I feel I should note that we have other articles disambiguated simply by the word "The" at the beginning).

In light of recent changes to Halopedia's policy on disambiguation pages (the primary canonical term having the name), Halo-343 felt that we should move the article back. As this page is very popular and "Covenant Empire" is used in canon, ("Covenant Empire" suggests the name of the empire, while "Covenant empire" suggests an empire run by the Covenant) I felt that we should have proper consensus on this before a move.

Voting ends: 30 August 2010.

-- Forerunner 14:53, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Support (2/0)
The Covenant is, by definition, an empire; I acknowledge that. However, it's simply called the Covenant in canon. Otherwise, it would likely sometimes be referred to as "The Empire" and there would be more entities with the "Imperial" descriptor; that simply isn't the case. Even Covenant characters call it the Covenant, nothing else. The renaming is also prudent given our new canon-based naming system. --&quot;Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have.&quot; -Thomas Jefferson 15:21, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

It has always been "The" Covenant, it should never have changed.Van Dominic Flyhight 03:09, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose (2/2)

 * 1) - "As this page is very popular and "Covenant Empire" is used in canon".-  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 16:10, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) — As per Subbles and common frakkin' sense.

Comments
Well, this is certainly a unique situation. What we have presented on this page is an unexplained opinion expressed in the form a proposal, which has been written by someone who is against the proposal presented and has done so without the original opinion holder's consent. So, instead of letting the nature of this proposal stand as "this guy thinks this should happen for some reason, but I don't agree, even though I'm trying to persuade people to agree", I am going to rewrite the proposal as I would have done so originally, and let that persuade people to what I am proposing. -  Halo-343   ( Talk )   ( Contribs )   ( Edits )  18:43, July 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, I'm neutral - but sure.-- Forerunner 19:52, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think the whole Covenant Empire/Covenant Loyalists merge should be completed before any page move. One issue at a time. -- SFH 22:30, July 31, 2010 (UTC)