Forum:Halopedia vote for Halo Nation to join us

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Support (18/10) Sysop
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 * 1) - This is wonderful news. We need to be united. This news should be spread on Reddit, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter.TheEld (talk) 13:32, 7 January 2019 (EST)TheEld
 * 2) - I spent a lot of my youth on Halopedia. Our contributors fortunately offered me the opportunity for me to lead and more intimately curate the wiki. I’m still salty that Wikia forced our hand, splitting the project into competing communities. Halopedia’s split played a large part in a lot of old timers reducing their commitment or entirely quitting wiki curation. I’ve lost touch with so many good friends from our shared youth. I wish we could’ve done better for y’all.
 * 3) - I joined after the split happened, so I have no idea what that practically entailed, but I can only see good in the long run from merging the wikis. More people working on the wiki, provided patrolling and regulation standards are maintained, can only be a good thing.--D9328 (talk) 14:35, 7 January 2019 (EST)d9328


 * 1)  - Halo has a promising future ahead of it and I think it should be complimented by unity on all fronts of the community, and one of the most important things would be having one simple united go-to hub for information and lore that combines everything we already had, just this time together and undivided. We should be thinking foremost of the future of Halo as an entity and community; there's everything to gain.
 * Not a registered user.-- 17:04, 7 January 2019 (EST)


 * 1) - 100% support, the more unity the better!
 * 2) - Halo has seen an uptick in new lore and having two wikis is confusing for possible newcomers. Having one big/high quality wiki is ideal IMO. Oh and HeyGuys! Snark without a bark (talk)
 * 3) - Individually the wikis are weak, like a single twig, but together we form a mighty bundle of sticks.  Lord Susto  23:49, 7 January 2019 (EST)
 * 4) It a good idea. Hard to believe i was there before the split happen C F 0 1 15:54, 9 January 2019 (EST)
 * 5) - The Halo Nation people, in my experience, have never been the friendliest of users, but all in the name of having more manpower for a more complete wikia Flood12345 (talk) 20:01, 10 January 2019 (EST)

Neutral (3/1) Sysop
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 * 1) - I largely echo the concerns that Nicmavr raised in the comment section, in that unless the Wikia community is either re-formatted to serve a different function as to not continue to split traffic, such as by making it Halo community rather then Halo lore focused, or otherwise to ensure that Halopedia is used as the primary site for canonical information, that this split is fairly pointless. If anything, it would be negative, since it could leave the chance that the Wikia site will continue to get the most traffic and stay on the top of google searches, yet will cease to be updated or will only be updated by unqualified editors. I think it is imperative that prior to any decision being made, a concerete plan be made regarding what will happen to the Halo Nation wiki, and that it be verified that such plans will be not be interfered with by Wikia. My vote will remain neutral until anything changes; and I will change it to be support if it happens, or Oppose if it becomes apparent this cannot happen. Jabberwock xeno (talk) 15:15, 7 January 2019 (EST)
 * 2) - Admittedly my opinion is mostly based on my past interactions with the Halo Nation admins. IMHO, it would be best if they joined like normal users instead of instantly being given a position of authority within a month. AlertFiend - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. (Converse) 16:58, 7 January 2019 (EST)
 * I actually agree with you here. I have seen a very abusive admin(s) on Halo Nation. That said, I know a few good admins as well. Editorguy (talk) 05:43, 16 January 2019 (EST)
 * In my time on HN I've gotten to know many of the admins quite well and have observed very few if any cases of abuse (one clear case in 2012). Much of it has been simple misunderstandings. That being said, should the merge be approved each admin would have a trial period whilst an RfA is held for us to decide on their adminship.-- 10:40, 16 January 2019 (EST)


 * 1) -  As I have mentioned before, we would still need to maintain the Wikia version so that we can manage the traffic between the two wikis. At the end of the day, Wikia paid for SEO whereas Halopedia relies on good will. See more on my comment to Nicmarv's below. —  subtank   11:27, 12 January 2019 (EST)

Against (1/0) Sysop
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 * 1) - I like the idea of having user choice, the two sites operate completely differently with different formats, community etc and it offers friendly competition and user choice. It would seem a shame to move that. --343 TheGuiltyProphet (talk) 16:47, 7 January 2019 (EST)
 * User does not meet voting criteria (at least 25 edits).-- 17:04, 7 January 2019 (EST)
 * Sorry, I missed that part about the voting criteria. Thank you for removing for me. --EliteForceRecon (talk) 08:35, 8 January 2019 (EST)


 * 1) - I like both Halopedia and Halo Nation. However, the major issue with merging is that a lot of Halo Nation's pages and content will be removed as both wikis have subjective disagreements. I would hate to see Halo Nation's differing content (while factual and cited) be removed due to subjective disagreements between: what a Halopedia user deems necessary, or what a Halo Nation user deems necessary. Editorguy (talk) 05:26, 16 January 2019 (EST)
 * This isn't really the case. The content is going to be copied to a temporary wiki so we can better merge it. Think of it as keeping the best of both sites.-- 10:40, 16 January 2019 (EST)

Comments and suggestions
Please put any comments or suggestions for this here.CIA391 (talk) 10:10, 21 October 2018 (EDT)

Dear all,

While I may have been out of the spotlight in recent years as a retired admin, I won't officially submit a vote as per the voting policy, but for what it's worth I will nonetheless provide my 2 cents, as I was the admin who was responsible for initiating the original 2010 split.

First of all I am happy to see that this has finally been proposed as it shows that there is now an even stronger opinion among the Halo wikis' communities that wikia's treatment is incompatible with community-orientated projects. This was a viewpoint that myself, Subtank and other supporters back in 2010 tried to urge everyone to realize during wikia's introduction to major changes such as the Oasis skin and other detrimental policy changes. I can see that Halo Nation's admin team still has some members (I will not mention names but those whom I am talking about may message me privately if they feel that I am misjudging) who originally disagreed with my proposal back in 2010, and I now thus hope that there will be an unanimous agreement towards a merger if it goes ahead. An unanimous agreement within the administration team(s) is crucial to ensure that a proposal as major as this can go ahead and be as successful as possible.

Secondly, I do want to advise caution on how this will be executed; from my own experiences in the original split, Wikia is not a company that will concede towards any community demands and they will always put their profits and only their profits first. I know this is an obvious statement, but I cannot stress enough that it involves a possible conflict with them if they see this as a move that would "damage" their income or wiki traffic. The plan of the original split was to rename halo.wikia.com to Halo Nation, and to add community-orienatated content while retaining only major canon articles and allowing Halopedia to focus on being the canon wiki; this would give us 2 wikis, one with a "canon" goal and one with a "community" goal, but with a common community for both. Unfortunately, wikia saw the removal of the said smaller canon articles as "damaging" and kicked us off. While the wiki was renamed to Halo Nation, it remained a carbon copy of Halopedia with the exact same goal, dividing the community and wiki traffic. As such I wish to stress that any plan to execute a merger should take this into account to avoid a possible repeat of these incidents. I do trust that you have thought all this up however, so I give my strongest support to you all :)

Best of luck,

Nicmavr (talk), 7 January 2019


 * Thank you for the advice Nic! We'll be sure to keep that in mind and hopefully we will be successful.-- 17:04, 7 January 2019 (EST)


 * Because it may be useful to show. Our Twitter announcement of this vote has support from numerous members of the community and content creators in its replies. It just shows how so many folks believe this is a good idea and how we'd have the backing of so much people if we were to merge. Sure there is the concern of the other wiki remaining, but this however does lower the risk as the community it seems is willing to support us during this.-CIA391 (talk) 12:32, 9 January 2019 (EST)


 * In addition to Nicmavr's concern, I propose that the current administrators of Halo Nation to consider my old 2011 proposal. I wouldn't want another repeat of Wikia's forced resignation to happen to the current administrators of Halo Nation.— subtank   11:33, 12 January 2019 (EST)