Talk:Halo 4

RvB
Does anyone know what was the thing on Sarge's back in the version set on Wraparound? Alex T Snow 03:19, 18 April 2012 (EDT)


 * I got the impression it was just a jetpack. --  Specops306   Autocrat     Qur'a 'Morhek   04:24, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

I hope that isn't the alpha, it looks like its just layed on his back. Jac0bBau3r1995 08:55, 18 April 2012 (EDT)


 * I didn't guess because I can't think of anything that should look anything like that. It looks like a suitcase or something :/ Alex T Snow 12:57, 18 April 2012 (EDT)
 * Suitcase? That's a jetpack. Nothing else.--Gravemind.svg  Col. Spartacus  Talk Page Contributions  14:21, 18 April 2012 (EDT)
 * How do you know it's a jetpack?--184.3.48.27 18:15, 18 April 2012 (EDT)
 * Its obviously a jet pack, or maybe a jet booster on the back of the armour. From what I've seen, all spartans have them on their backs in Halo 4 so far. Don't forget about the boosters on the back of the Chief in the Preview Trailer, they look almost exactly a like.Siphon 117 18:31, 18 April 2012 (EDT)


 * They don't all have it, not Chief either, only Sarge, and only in one of the two videos. It's large, roundish, and black. Alex T Snow 20:06, 18 April 2012 (EDT)


 * Alright then, please explain what the large devices on the back behind the shoulders are? They all have them. Also, what would those things be on John's back? They obviously are some kind of booster, most likley for zero-g situations. If you look at Johns back, he has them. Compare them to whats on the back of the Spartan-IVs. I'm not trying to be obnoxious, but they do look very similar in shape and design.Siphon 117 20:47, 18 April 2012 (EDT)


 * Zero-g boosters and jetpack, two different things. But it is true that Chief's and S-IV's gadget on the back look similar. I can tell you it's not a holstered weapon. — S331 Bubbleshieldhud.svg(COM • Mission Log • Profile) 21:38, 18 April 2012 (EDT)
 * I watched the the RvB promotion and it looked like a jetpack. So that's why I thought it was a jetpack. So 184 (in reply to your snide comment), how the hell do you know it's not a jetpack? (Does anyone else think this discussion doesn't belong here?)--Gravemind.svg  Col. Spartacus  Talk Page Contributions  22:02, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

I don't understand this, it totally unnesecery. It's obvious it's not a weapon, we have seen the icon of the jet pack and it looks simaler, we know it's in the game so why are we having this discussion? Jac0bBau3r1995 22:13, 18 April 2012 (EDT)
 * Exactly, this discussion is completely unnecessary.--Gravemind.svg  Col. Spartacus  Talk Page Contributions  22:16, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

Jackals ONLY in concept art
So far Jackals are only in concept art. This does not mean that they will actually appear in Halo 4 so they should be taken off the Species list. --ADinoSupremacist 19:59, 18 April 2012 (EDT)


 * And I might as well say it, before someone tries to use this as an excuse, we ALL know with 99% certainty Jackals (or Pelicans, etc) will be back, but to avoid confusion on the page, concept art doesn't count. Just clarifying. Alex T Snow 20:08, 18 April 2012 (EDT)

I almost hate how long it didn't take to Google this. I suggest you start using these tools instead of instigating a potential edit war.
 * ADino, the reason the Infinity wasn't included on the list until recently is because it had only appeared in concept art (until it was confirmed to be a part of the game). However, the Kig-Yar were confirmed to be in the game in an IGN article and shown in concept art. Google can do amazing things, maybe you should use it.--Gravemind.svg  Col. Spartacus  Talk Page Contributions  22:08, 18 April 2012 (EDT)
 * Speaking generally on this issue, do you think it might be worth including things that appear in concept art, but label them as such in the appearence list? It gives the information individuals seek, but makes it clear that they haven't been confirmed to appear in the game proper.--Hawki 00:32, 19 April 2012 (EDT)
 * No, because there may be something shown in concept art that isn't in the final game. It is better to only list confirmed appearances.--Gravemind.svg  Col. Spartacus  Talk Page Contributions  09:07, 19 April 2012 (EDT)
 * Adding to Hawki's suggestion, it may be a neat addition to give it it's own three tier (you know those equal sign thingies) section and give a clear and prominent disclaimer that they are not confirmed, only notably seen in concept art. It would simply be an all inclusive list with no character/weapon/vehicle/etc. separation, simply an alphabetized list with a picture source to the element rather than a simple book/page citation.
 * Sounds like a good idea. The only problem is that I can't think of anything that has only been shown in concept art at the moment. Most of the stuff shown in the concept art has now been confirmed to be in the game.--Gravemind.svg  Col. Spartacus  Talk Page Contributions  15:49, 19 April 2012 (EDT)
 * There's a couple things (OXM UK cover Human weapon [assault carbine, plasma rifle?]), Sentinels, etc. Nothing notable at the moment though, but could always be a nice backdoor option if the need arises.