Talk:Halo 3/Archive 1

Covenant Weapons
Why are the covenant seperated into two factions? They have unique weapons of course but the vast majority are shared. We could add a quick reference after the weapon name (or, eventually in its own article) saying which factions used it. Also I'm sure all of you have seen the E3 07 campaign Trailer. I'm going to comb through it in slo-mo and add what I can but if all of you could cross-check me and I'll do the same for you we can fix this article quickly.

XBOX Live in Halo 3
The article says that you can rank up in Halo 3 custom matches. I HIGHLY doubt that that is true.

RamblerMan (Cry of the Wild )(Legacy )

im sure it means your RP gose up--sogy

So your military rank will stay the same but your RP will go up? RamblerMan (Cry of the Wild )(Legacy )

no your RP is your military rank, that makes sence. --sogy

Anyone could help edit the Halo 3 page, their is a fat update in Bungie Weekly update, I don't want to do it myself, since I am on Exams.ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 04:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Editing?
Can we make this page editable please? There are a lot of things missing on it.

The Spectre
Not that I really care, but has the Spectre been canned or will it retun in Halo 3?

Yes, the spectre will return xboxfanboy.com sorted through the beta code and found it being referenced.--The Chazz025 21:06, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

COVENANT
The Covenant is two separate parties now. It should be categorized as such. So if you're the one undoing my edits in weapons and vehicles, tell me why. The Covenant is not ONE anymore. That's like just throwing all the human weapons in with the Covenant ones. They're AGAINST each other, so they should be categorized that way. So who keeps undoing it when I edit it this way?

Someone needs to add Hunters on the characters section because on the Halo 3 website it shows a blackened out picture of a Hunter.-- Joshua 029 14:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

i agre thow how about a sepretist wepon catagory

Exactly, but SOME people, who have yet to reveal themselves, edit it to the way it is whenever I create the separatist category. So we should post a thing to RR or someone.

RamblerMan (Cry of the Wild )(Legacy )

Yes, the fact that the Elites, Hunters and Grunts have separted from the covenant is very important to know (yes, the grunts have, its just that the brutes have prevented some of the grunts from leaving and would probably threaten them with death if they tried to leave).

"This is the way the world ends." Really?
I was wondering is Cortana right? Is the world really gonna end?? user:The evil O,malley

well i read the script and let me tell u cortana goes rampant and basicly kills every1 on installation 01 which is inside earth, and earth is the ark btw also the whole covenant and the UNSC join forces to fight the forerunners... which means the halos aren't weapons at all but time machines that transports all life into a safe point in the future or where the flood isn't as strong as it was... and MC doesn't die the arbiter and his son dies at the end so does Cortana she double crosses every1 just 2 live but ends up dying at the bottom of the ocean along with the arbiter but thats how it ends and it doesn't say if the humans and the covenant are still at war after this point =[ (milkshake =])

Honestly, I have no idea or opinion right now, but I'm gonna lean toward "no". Capt Bartlett 02:35, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I have faith in the MC and I am gonna say 'no'ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 10:12, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the world is gana end, and all of humanity will crumble under the unstoppable onslaught of the covenant forces. All who perish shall fuel the hart of there enemy, building a force so strong that all who sand in it's way will be brought to his knees, the covenant is going to bern a path to a glorious victory spreading their divine will to all planets they conquer. Yes, the world is gana end and their is nothing anyone can do about it. sogy 09:23, 20 April 2007 CE
 * Who knows? If the artifact on Earth is, in fact the ark, and it activated, i would say the galaxy is going to end. But, since one Halo is destroyed, there may be a hole on the system and our part of the galaxy could be spared. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 19:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

But Ed, the firing range of a Halo is is too wide, so if a Halo is activated, Earth might also be involve, but since I disagree about the End of the World, I don't think it would happen!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 01:33, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

hmm, I haven't played Marathon but I've read quite a bit about the storyline and heard a lot of theories, one is that halo and marathon are connected. There are many different possibilities but I'd say that if the world does end than I think Master Chief, Fred, Kelly, Linda, Team Saber, and Team Katana are going to survive. But what do I know? I'm just some 15 year old geek in some town noone has heard of so my opinion is a little insignificant. LOL. --Captain Jacob Rathens 02:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Make a poll?. Then when the final game launches and the world finds out, we see which one was right. Although im all for 'no'. Im with Petty Officer, I got faith in Chief.--Spartan 1 1 7 13:29, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah a poll User:Kami-Sama is the world going to end in H3? Yes No Maybe i dont no

Well, as of now the humans and earth look pretty screwed... but, bungie would have to be Mentaly insane to kill chief off. MC is the "Mario of x-box" ,if he died, not only will bungie get kicked off the title, but some rookie charactor "Marcus fenix" will take his place! and i like GoW too! and bungie would loose popularity like there no tommorow. There will be no: whats the chief up to this time?--NOTreal1 17:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Now all thats left is to put it on the main page so the whole community can jump in!--Spartan 1 1 7 23:23, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

If the world does end,at least we know it will end in one hell of an awsome battle!--0nyx Sp1k3r 14:03, 6 May 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!!

Bungie will not leave the story ending like that, it's either the death of the MC or Earth being save!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 11:41, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I said If the world ends.I in my own opinion think that it won't end.--0nyx Sp1k3r 21:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!!

I just thought. What if the structure on Earth that the Covenant BELIEVE is the arc isn't? What if the Thing Dubbed by Dr. Hasley the 'Dyson Sphere' is the arc? Truth may not realize that his place of salvation is not on Earth, but on Onyx. This would (VERY sadly) mean the inevitable: John-117 would lose for the third time in his life (1st on reach, 2nd on reach again). Too bad it would cost him his life. This is just, as i said above, a thought. -Anonymous Halo Fan.

I think Cortana was talking about the world as they know. Things changed a lot, and eart is fighting one more battle. For better or for worse, things will never be the same again... Felix-157 13:02, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I just think, well, maybe the worlds isn't going to end, maybe the Covenant may be able to forge an alliance with the human race, or the MC will be battling the Flood with the Covenant. Just tell me when you had the game, because I haven't got a chance in buying it.ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:10, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, this is my idea: So the Covenant are going to be busy blowing things up, killing things, and launching giant blobs of plasma into our oceans (and searching for some sort of super-powerful Forerunner artifact thingo, but that's not a big deal) right? So, eventually one of them is going to get real hungry (an elite, say), and maybe he'll be in Japan. Okay. No, let's say he'll be in a small Japanese community on the outskirts of Halifax, Nova Scotia (that's in Canada), and he'll look around and see some sort of sushi shop, and he'll be like; "Me hungry!, blarghahahahaha", and go and eat some sushi. Then, in the sushi shop, he'll be eating his really good tasting sushi, when all of a sudden, Al Gore will come in (he's there on one of his tours around the world to show off his brilliant, scientifically-proven slide show) and complain to the elite about how the hypothermonucleaicdeanimaniacarboxylasesulfideic vapours that are released in massive amounts when their ship's plasma generators contact (and vapourize) certain genera of airbourne Gram-negative, halophilic bacteria that have the ability to produce lysine decarboxylase and cytochrome c oxidase, and also the ability to reduce nitrates to nitrites (therefore playing a vital role in our planet's nitrogen cycle), and survive in both aerobic and anaerobic conditions, and therefore are able to carry out both cellular respiration, and fermentation (Anyways... so back to Al Gore, to continue this really long run on sentence), contribute to global warming. So the elite will start to get really pissed off, right? But then he'll be distracted by how AMAZING the sushi really is (and the fish in Nova Scotia (and the lobsters!)). And he'll go and tell his Covenant friends, and they'll make peace with the humans over a table of sushi, and the world will be safe. But then, they'll start to notice that all of the fish have been killed (by the giant blobs of plasma the Covenant have been launching into our oceans)(therefore, no more sushi:, and will be sad because now the Nova Scotia fishermen are out of their jobs :(. But now they have bigger problems. Remember the global warming our friend Al Gore (who's Inconvenient Truth movie cover looks kind of like one of the new Halo 3 ads, by the way) was talking about earlier? Well, it will start a flash-freeze-storm thingo (like in The Day after Tomorrow), and freeze everyone on the planet. And Al Gore's last words before he is killed by the global warming he had fought so hard to stop over the past few centuries will be: "HA! I told you s-URG... (as he is flash frozen with sushi still in his mouth)". And the immense cold will cause the Forerunner artifact to explode, and everyone dies (Including the Nova Scotian fishermen : so I can get my story over with. THE END (So, my point is the world, WILL end, so you should all vote so in the silly voting box thingo above)

Yay, sushi! And fish. And Nova Scotian fishermen.

Al Gore is cool.

Look for the signs, the keepers of the flame!

NOVABOOM!

The person above's right. The world will end. Even if global warming doesn't kill us, all the dead fish will put the fishermen out of their jobs, which will eventually destroy the world economy and start a series of chain-reactions that will inevitably lead to the world's end (like the world blowing up, not like in Pirates of the Carribean). He's right (and also very smart).

What's a halophile? Is it like a pedophile,...but less...creepy,...and less children,... and likes Halo?

NO, you IDIOT! It's an organism that can live in high concentrations of salt!

What if it mean the world (Halo Universe) as we know it will end like say the Elites joining the UNSC in their fight against the Covenant. -- MCDBBlits 02:33, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

The Elites have broken off from the covenant. Some have become the covenant sepratists (considering everyone an enemy). Some have sided with the humans (including 'Half-Jaw,' the Arbiter, and those following them).

No, the world will not end, even if MasterChief fails, my comrades, the ODST'S will defeat the covenant.SpecOps ODST 16:24, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but can the ODSTs save the global economy? Or make sushi? Or remove the hypothermonucleaicdeanimaniacarboxylasesulfideic vapours from the air and prevent global warming? Or fish? Not even the Master Chief can fish... unless that's the REAL function of the x button...

Well actually...

Since when do real environmental concerns come into play here? does it really matter how the world will REALLY end? and do you think bungie is going to use one of those as an ending for halo 3? I think this is a little silly. this is about halo... not the concerns democrats use as political distractions to prevent the public from seeing that they have no plan. if anyone will get this train back on the tracks I think this could be a better discussion. --Captain Jacob Rathens 05:21, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, there's something wrong with that global warming note. If you are expanding the universe of global warming wiki, don't go advertising here. and referring to what out dear Omrifere has said about does it matter how the world will really ends, I think Bungie would have happy to let us focus on the Earth's problem, rather than the other halosΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 11:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey, hey guys... (I think it was a joke). If you notice, hypothewhatever vapours don't really exist... (but halophillic bacteria could, and fish).

Fish.

CAN the Master Chief fish?

Hey, the Halo 3 "Ark"/swirly cloud picture does kind of look like An Inconvenient Truth.

Quote: "is Halo 3 the end of the series?" bungie's answer: "It is the end of the story ark" that implies that there will be mre Halo games, which would be hard to make if the world ends and MC dies. what's more, bungie would have to be complete idiots to kill of MC. --Charles II August 11, 12:37 UMT/GMT

OK, I can understand that Cortana may go psycho, but when did the Arbitor have son. In fact, I've never seen a female in the Covenant. Also, Time machines, what a stupid idea. Also, how could Cortana fall in water when she isn't real. And final, When did people mention that the foreunners are evil. What a load. Your crazy Capt Bartlett. Cortana may have just have had a evil prediction to lower the Master Chief's spirit like most evil villains do. That's what I think. I may be wrong. --Hydraman 01:34, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Is Night Vision Coming Back???
In Halo: Combat Evolved when you zoom in with the sniper and press the white button (RB With 360) night vision comes on the scope. Is that coming back in H3???--Spartan 1 1 7 01:58, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I would like to see the night vision come back in H3. I think to only reason why it was taken out was that it was not needed in H2. You barley even need a flashlight in H2, everything was well lit and the textures were clearer. But personally, I don't think it will be brought back. sogy 12:22, 23 April 2007 CE

It will be back it was confirmed in the leaked footage (watch it at 1up.com) DizRupT

OMG MORE LEAKED FOOTAGE!!!!!!!!!!! I personally just don't trust leaked footage, some the vids I've seen look pretty legit but I don't trust anything that doesn't come directly from Bungie. Capt Bartlett 03:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

yea besides if it was a multiplayer leaked footage it might be a lie because neither the flashlight nor the night vision could be used in multiplayer mode. Radzon 13:34, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * We don't know this about Halo 3. Who knows? Maybe there will be a very dark multiplayer map in which you get to use them.-- SPARTAN-118  06:05, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not against leaked stuff but it just lacks logic, where would the flashlight button be? (Speaking of flashlight buttons, what about the camo?) unless they use the D-pad? Fludz 'Carnttuchmee Kamekazi eliteGrunty friends!

You don't need night vision, for the sniper rifle, when you're not zooming, on it's screen it'll show all green like with night vision, plus you can see people and vehicles a lighter green. Also, on Xbox 360 it's LB for flashlight/nightvision. I also think I remember that in Halo 1 multiplayer you could use flashlight

Sentinals in H3?
Are the sentinals be in it? The evil O,malley 03:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

The should. Maybe, I don't see why bunjie is going to drop a character. Yeah. Yet maybe not that often.--Spartan 1 1 7 20:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't see why they wouldn't, after all if the artifact near New Mombasa in the trailer is an ancient Forerunner artifact, wouldn't it be logical that there are Sentinals guarding it. The Halos are to be activated should the Flood manage to escape right? Well what if they happen to invade that structure? I'm gonna put my bet on Sentinals being in there. Capt Bartlett 20:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We'll have to wait and see, if there are Flood, there will be sentinels. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 21:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes there will. In One of the ViDocs Bungie released, there are several sentinels on the Screen behind one person.--Ray 242 12:043, 20 June 2007

Rating Change
Ok before the a.v.c finds a way 2 ban me again, i just wanted 2 change one thing... The rating on Halo 3 because i hate when they do that... I have 2 reasons for this, 1.)Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2 were both rated "M", and 2.) as im sure all of you have seen the vidoc, there IS blood and im sure there will be just as much "You covie bastards" and "Damn it"'s from Seargant Johnson from halo 2... --Uncivil 02:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm agree. In Et Tu Btute and the other one there was blood, gore, ect possibly more than the first two. Also what's Halo without Johnson cussing out the covenant before I try to kill him. Plus with the US law stating the FPS start out at T and work up based on the content practically gives it an M rating.--[[Image:GRAW.png|25px]] MCPO Spartan  1138  02:39, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I think it should be rated "RP" since the ESRB havn't confirmed it officially. You want this site to be accurate, you should stick with the facts until there is official confirmation. But we all know the outcome is that it will be an "M" game. Just saying...--SpartansOnFire 06:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

It must be M, nothing more!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 11:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Its most likely going to be M. The other 2 were... and you can't realy go from M to T or it would change the game ALOT. If i'm not mistaken, its gorier and bloodier than ever! in all the vidocs and movies. when someone were shot or esploded blood splat all over the place (ground, walls, vehicles..)and if i see curectly, I saw limbs being blown off! (brute + shotgun = legs, arms, head off). So... i see no possibility its T so its M.--NOTreal 02:06, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

As it has not been officially rated, you are all merely guessing. I am reverting to 'not rated'. --  Manticore  TalkundefinedCSV 13:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Well Halo:CE was originaly going to be rated T but when dismemberment of the flood happedned they immeditly changed it into a M game. On the Halo 3 website says there is going to be flood so rated M. If you don't know where I got that info in the back of the book(Fall of Reach) showed Halo:CE and it said T. The Consumed   ,The Dead   ,and Living  19:48, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

A wise man once said, "Always M, it is. No more, no less." That man plaigerised Yoda, but the spirit of his plagiarism was right :D. And yes, I was that man...  Kora ‘Morhekee The Battle-Net My Conquests. 04:31, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Until the official rating has been released, the page will continue to display Not Rated. This is an encyclopaedia, and the game has not been rated yet. Changing this rating without citing appropriate sources will be considered vandalism, and those edits will be reverted. --  Manticore  [[Image:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] TalkundefinedCSV 12:41, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

MC IN THE END
I hope the very last level ends with the Master Chief. I really didn't like ending the game as the arbiter for H2.--MYH.Q.  · MY ORDERS  ·  MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  16:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Here! Here! Was cool to play an alien but mostly the point of veiw of the game is from the Human eyes. It would be more appropriate to end as the Master Cheif. --Ferball 22:51, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * As Halo is primarily the Master Chief's story, he will probably end it. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 17:06, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


 * MC did say that he'll finish this fight, so i'm guessing that his cryptic wisdom won't lie... fludz &#39;carnttuchmee 08:30, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

you think that bungie will kill off mc in the end you know so nobody gets to use him in any other halo game?

Um, dude, Master Chief is Main character and Arby's ally. He'll be with you so you don't have to play him lol. but seriously, yeah. E93 16:57, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Official pic.
I think that the release date poster should stay the official pic in the page because theres 3 different boxes. And Im not to sure of putting all three boxes on the main page.--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  · <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  21:48, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I agree. Cause the one pic that has the "ark" shooting with the halo 3 logo is practically on 2 of the 3 editions. It's also the amin pic advertising the game.-- MCPO Spartan  1138  22:36, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The official image is subject to change, you know. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 17:07, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Scarab in H3
What if the covenant used a scarab in H3 just like in H2 so they can excavate the ark only this time what if the MC steals and uses it!Sounds awsome huh?--0nyx Sp1k3r 22:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!!

UMMMM, maby, that would be cool but, I dout that bungie would turn Halo 3 into Star wars battlefront 2. Not to mention, how would that, Phisicly and balenecedly fit into Multi player?. but cool idea.--NOTreal 15:34, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Well think it's gonna make some kind of appearance in H3 ,besides how is the covenant (or what's left of it) going to excavate the ark without scarabs?--0nyx Sp1k3r 15:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!!

The scarab is going to have and ai of its own. last time it was really only scripted. also in the e3 o7 trailer those ships that are glassing the planet are right over the ark excavating it. it was all in the recent egm. John6512 (9:48 august 9th 2007)

Release Date
November 25th, eh? Hm.... 2+5=7

no, it's SEPTEMBER 25th --sogy

He's right. HURRY UP SEPTEMBER!!!! --Captain Jacob Rathens 18:55, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Ironic, that is seven days after my birthday, by the way, this is Dockman, just to lazy to log in.

Seven days huh? just don't watch that movie from the ring. lol. seriously though, that's kinda freaky.--Captain Jacob Rathens 22:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Could it have been intentional? -- ED ( talk )(gaming) 14:45, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it was intended to be released 3 days after my birthday, when I become old enough to purchase M-rated video games without my parents permission.

really funny, my friends birthday is on the no0rth american release. jameogle

Yeah, if anyone noticed, September 25, 2007 (9/25/07) is full of the number seven. 2+5 is 7, 9-2 is 7, 9+2+7 is 16, and 1+6 is 7, the year is 2007, and if you add all of the numbers up (9+2+5+2+0+0+7) you get 25, and 2+5 is seven. --MagickaMaster 23:45, 22 July 2007

Sharquoi
I wanna see a Sharquoi and friends of mine at school talk about "I wonder what new alien will be in H3?" The sharquoi page it self mentions that it might be in Halo 3. I think it will yet im still not to sure. Any other thoughts?--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  · <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  13:47, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, its entirely possible. -- ED ( talk )(gaming) 14:44, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think fighting or even seeing the sharquoi will be cool.--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  [[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|25px]]· <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  22:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

First of all, whats a sharky? Second of all, where does it say there will be a new alien? Third, do sharkies eat fish? Or live in San Jose? Hmm...

Pourquoi?

how do you pronounce sharquoi? i say shar-kwaa... is it pronounced shar-key? fludz &#39;carnttuchmee 09:24, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

WHAT is a Sharky?


 * i think they're reffereing to the sharquoi. fludz &#39;carnttuchmee 15:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

WHO said there was going to be a new alien?


 * none of us said it WOULD be a new alien! fludz &#39;carnttuchmee 18:46, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Then WHY does it say above: "I wonder what the new alien is going to be"?

Sharquoi, yeah I think it is pronounced Shar-kwaa. The name was said in one of the Conversations from the Universe. If you re read the first post it says that Kids at school say "I wonder what new alien will be in halo 3." No confirmation from bunjie but some people think it will be. Read the Sharquoi article. Then you'll know--<font color=Black>MY Place!  · <font color=Black>Feed The <font color="#78866B"> MailBox ·<font color=#78866B>I did that! <font color=Black> .I Have<font color=Black>Two Sides 14:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, cool. Thanks.

I personally say shar-kwoy. Probably wrong but it sounds right in my head.Teflon4 13:13, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

In one of the updates, they were talking about the new AI system when the guy said something about fighting a "group of Grunts and a uhh... something bigger than a Grunt". That in itself might prove the existance of a new species being seen for the first time in Halo 3... --MagickaMaster 00:08, 24 July 2007

well, in H2 they introduced brutes, drones, and prophets. why not Sharquoi for H3? or for that matter, Drinol, or even the flood juggernaut?

Two turrets?
On valhalla, i've found a descrepency. at the moment, the AIE-468H Heavy Machine Gun is the only alrge machinegun that we can wield. But on Valhalla, the cases near the chaingun and the extra mongoose bear "M247 GPMG," the machinegun turret used by marines in Halo 2. Probably, for the moment, just placeholder...but would two types of turrets be feasible? -- Kora ‘Morhekee The Battle-Net My Conquests. 03:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

OMG
The Evil O&#39;malley 23:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

HOLY SHiOT!!!awsome! their visors look like something from starwars.--0nyx Sp1k3r 02:24, 31 May 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!!

The ones with a bubble like helmet are the SPI armor the spartans III use but this one seems a little upgraded to the one in the GoO book's cover also because it has a shield (or it should have one if you can use it in multiplayer) and as for the one that looks like the helmet of a clone trooper from star wars i have no idea, and indeed is awesome. Radzon 03:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I knew you were goona be able to customize your character but where the hell is this picture come from!!!!Sebias 2 03:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Wow, great, it's awesome, you'd think they add S-III into the game?ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 13:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I Agree, The Spi armor is different than the one on Halo: Ghosts of onyx, think they'll add the Halo: GoO Spi armor too? --Ptowery 03:07, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I think they're including the Spartan-IIIs in the game, because thats a lot of work for them to just use it on multiplayer. As for the detail, attribute it to the media. The GoO cover was a dark painting, this is computer generated for all environments, there is room for much more detail. -- ED ( talk )(gaming) 03:10, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I hope you can change the gauntlets in the final game. Don't get me wrong, the Halo 3 gauntlets look better than the Halo 2 ones. But the gauntlets the SPI uses on the cover of GoO would rock! Wonder what the other helmet type is? Mark IV? Kora ‘Morhekee The Battle-Net My Conquests. 04:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm gonna love the new character customization, you may be able to change almost everything, they just don't show it. Look at the shoulders, different armor and one has no armor there at all! Capt Bartlett 15:45, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

And the awesome thing is that this is only for the spartans, if bungie adds the elites again there might be a lot of ther things to add to them, maybe you can even change their armor to make them look like commanders or the guard. Radzon 13:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Imagine going into multiplayer as a Heretic Elite!! or swapping out your shoulder and thigh guards to be an honour guard! there's heaps that can be done for the Elites, perhaps not as much as for the Spartans, but still a lot. Just wondering, but with these innovations, is there any practical reason the Brute's can't be in multiplayer? Kora ‘Morhekee The Battle-Net My Conquests. 20:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

The SPI-looking armor has been comfirmed to actuallly be EVA (Extra-Vehicular Activity) armor and the unknown is CQB (Close Quarters Battle) armor. Anonymous 11:01, 3 June 2007 (EST)

True. I cannot wait to play in a suit of EVA. User:1000_Sangheili


 * Wow! This is beyond what I thought they were gonna do. If you go on youtube you can find videos of people customizing there character yet it's mainly only color and the little embled picture. Also, if you look at the picture above and the picture with the vehicles. You can see similarities. Like they both say "Halo Goes SuperNova" and they both have characters with SPI Armor. Look. The guy with the Rocket Launcher on the back of the Mongoose has the same armor as one of the guys in the pic above and the Spartan driving the Brute Chopper also has the armor. Just incase ya didn't notice.--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  [[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|25px]]· <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  21:38, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Wait, Extra-Vehicular Activity... Close Quarters Battle? Where are you getting all this? Beyond the customization, does anyone other than me think this will be more function than looks? Capt Bartlett 15:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I'll point out something important that the article now does. This aromr MUST be unlocked (oh and by the way? Bungie has confirmed that the armor will NOT affect gameplay (pfff...and they said there was no difference between the Spartans and the Elites' head sizes))

Hold on!
Wait hold on a sec, how come there is nothing mentioned about that new brute vehicle in the halo3 webpage? Radzon 03:20, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Dunno, but there is an AWESOME picture of it and other vehicles:



Looks like you can get a second gunner on the Wraith. That would come in handy on Campaign mode. Yet the Mauler isn't mentioned in this pic. Wonder what Bungie is doing?--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  · <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  17:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Where is the Ghost? --Swearingmonk 17:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey! your right. I didn't notice that. Where is the ghost? I also resized the pic because it was kinda big.--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  · <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  21:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

look closely at the picture... what do you see? on the far bottom right? it says continued, so it could be that other vehicles could be on a different page. and didn't show it because it might have a mauler on it, (ghost too, but because of the mauler, they probably couldn't show the whole page...) fludz &#39;carnttuchmee 08:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Fludz, I bought that magazine, there is nothing else about any other Vehicles. That page just shows the NEW vehicles or updates to vehicles. The Mongoose is there (New), the Brute Chopper is there (New), Bansee (Plasma Bomb), and Wraith (New Seat).

Vandal?
Someone just Copied the entire article and pasted it all over the page and I fixed it, was it a Vandal of an Accident? --Ptowery 03:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC) REPLY TO MY TALK PAGE: user talk:ptowery
 * That's a good question. Nothing appears to be different. -- ED ( talk )(gaming) 03:12, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Achievements
Look here and read some of them... extra crispy?! Flamethrower maybe? Looks like the Flood are back, and skulls... Capt Bartlett 15:54, 1 June 2007 (UTC) lock out in halo 3? only a guess but im preety sure the "secret level" is a lock out remake.

SPI
The speculated SPI armor may not be SPI. On HBO they have a post and it's talking about the new armor types. SPI is listed as EVA armor. it stands for Extra-Vechicular Activity. Evidence is it supports a shield, and it has a Mjolnir body armor insted of the SPI bulky armor. Spartans   With   SPI ROCK  20:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Standard edition box art
I found this on amazon.com and it looks legit: It very well may be, but these games tend to go through a lot of box art changes, too. -- ED ( talk )(gaming) 19:22, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

The guys at Amazon.com created their own cover, because they couldn't leave the best game in the world "coverless".

Spartan-G007 XBL gamertag:SpartanG007

it doesn't look like something bungie would do, on all their game's covers it's always a non action sean for the characters. yes their is things going on in the back round, but the hero is always in a pose. --sogy

It seems great, but I expect it will be cooler!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 07:17, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it looks awesome. Not finished product obviously, if it is legit, but it'll hopefully be even better when it's released! Kora ‘Morhekee The Battle-Net My Conquests. 07:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

wtf ?
I don't know if this is real but watch and see.It does sound like Steve Downes. --0nyx Sp1k3r 23:50, 5 June 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!!

thats the mysterious Mario easter egg Sebias 2 05:41, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it sounds like him!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 07:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

No spectre
Acording to a vid I saw, it showed the wraith with the turret simular to spectre turret. --The Evil O&#39;malley 22:28, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

True. But that doesn't mean the Spectre won't appear (though personally, i'm fine without it). -random halo fan (sadly, new brute vehicle (prowler) is gonna take its place)

Elite armor
Bungie has confirmed that we will be able to use elite armor in halo 3 matchmaking in there most recent update... http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12531 ...go to where its says armor awe --HarryButtkiss 02:03, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Code Hackers have decifered that there are three new armor types for Elites. One of them is Raptor, and thats all I can remember at the moment. Ray 242 12:52, 20 June 2007

it's over :(
their is no more halo 3 beta, now i'm going to have to wait till september, i think im going thru withdrawals--sogy

I don't think anyone would have enjoyed playing Halo 3 without the campaign. People are just more concern on the sotry more than the game!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Awww... Looks like you tube is limited. Well the betas huge. And with bunjie making it better the game will be gargantuite. (<Not sure if thats correct spelling.)--<font color=Black>MY Place!  · <font color=Black>Feed The <font color="#78866B"> MailBox ·<font color=#78866B>I did that! <font color=Black> .I Have<font color=Black>Two Sides 14:32, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Custom Game Info
Link. Somebody should mention this stuff. --RoadDoggFL 18:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Gamestop
in gamestop.com, Halo 3 comes out November 15 and Halo Wars comes out in Christmas vacation.


 * Gamestop.com probably also said Halo 2 was coming out in May 2004. I doubt Halo Wars will come out this year but that's just me, but never use Gamestop as a source for a disputed release date. --RoadDoggFL 01:33, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Both gamestops in my town say September 25th. someone screwed up accidentally maybe? --Captain Jacob Rathens 03:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I read on Bungie.net that H3 is coming out on september 25 Spartan-118 03:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

HOLY CRAP!
Go to gamespot rite now!, check the user videos, one is Master chiefs face. The guys found a glich wit the mongoose to see inside the helmet! you can see his face!. Its dark a little but i made out: A heathy right eye (blueish) A totaly scared and deformed left eye(wight) a large deformed nose. and a wierd lower jaw. Its probly not finished facial stuff... maby the "Face in the trailer" was right after all!.--NOTreal1 06:13, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Got a link? -- Dragon<font color="FF0000">c laws ( talk ) 07:13, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I Got It: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3/video_player.html?id=I3VmkDOv5b4LuTbX --[[Image:CBQ_Avatar.png|35px]] <font color="Blue">Megas007 <font color="Grey">[COMM]

HOLY SH*T ,YOUR RIGHT! sorry for the language it's just I never thought we would ever be able to see the real face of the MC!His face dosn't look that damaged,I can see the scar under his right but no other part looks damaged.--0nyx Sp1k3r 14:48, 17 June 2007 (UTC)BLARG!!!

But wait, the camera just look into the mask, Bungie didn't expect people doing it, wouldn't they?ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I just think this youtube video looks more like it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3bQPHT6lrE ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Technically, it's not MC, it's some random multiplayer guy. E93 17:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Whats up with 27.com
Ok I found out something new. Well we all might have already know that there is a web page called www.27.com the page is like an armature page with a green background, a hello kitie picture a awesome Nokia phone and a free chat. Many halo fans had been directed into that page by some reason. Well this might be a reason. In the green background there is a picture behind the green which you can see if you click in your browser to show image or show background(here is the link ). Either way the image is in a huge resolution and is pixelated but if you turn the picture clockwise the image in the left apparently has a similarity with the weird symbol or avatar from Adjutant Reflex, this image was also seen in the mysterious email from Microsoft, the circuit city player and the web page of the society of the ancients. Also the pictures is named AR.jpeg AR=Adjutant Reflex. Its just to weird for me that it is just a coincidence. I found a web page with the comparison check it out Sebias 2 20:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Under our noses!
OMG!, I knew it! look at the achievments!. remember that story i said that some bungie dude made almost a year ago?. well, it all plays out now. last mission: "retern"--of the foruners! the story said some time portal thing made the fore's come back! and the human and covie unite to kill them!. or, look at the other acheivment, it says if u get >X< points you get the "RECLAIMER!" acheivment! omg Ha i knew it! (not braging) And it said there might be a foruner warrior that knew about the real halo... and the fores Made the flood (ironic) and then killed them to act as heros! It said alot about other things...(arbitors son anybody?) Oh, and it said forunerrs are tall, brown/gray skin, thin, all armored covered peoples!. Please don't say I'm crazy, i'm not i swear i read this long ago. if im right... I get to say the biggest I TOLD YOU SO!!! ever, once again i'm not crazy.--NOTreal1 04:00, 20 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Really? I too read the "script" - and i hated it. There were some elements i'd love to see in the final game (Sgt Johnson and Arbiter rescuing Cortana!) but most of it was, quite frankly, crap. Arbiter having a son? the Ark entrance in Antarctica? Cortana becoming a spirit? GRAVEMIND IS CAPTAIN KEYES????? No. Just...no. And don't get me started on bringing in the Forerunners! [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|30px]] Kora ‘Morhekee The Battle-Net My Conquests. 09:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

As much as I want to believe that script, I agree with Kora ‘Morhekee. There is also a ppossibility that is contradicted by the script. In Halo 2, half jaw went to get capture the Brute ship. If he was successful then Miranda, Johnson, and the Arbiter would leave on that ship. Not just go to high charity and steal one. And, the Kestrel was a human ship origionally right? I think so anyway. Bute in the script it says it is a Covenant vehicle. There may be somethings in there that make sense but unfortunately theere is not enough evidence to convince me. In fact, all evidence is making me believe that it is 100% fake. Sorry NOTreal1. Just doesn't fit with all other pieces of the puzzle. --Captain Jacob Rathens 12:32, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Can some one please make hyper link to this scriped please and by the way User:NOTreall i dont think your crazy but i am. User:Kami-Sama

Sorry, the scipt and the site it was on was deleted quite a bit ago... at least for me. And its alright it does seem quite fake(though it was very amuzing). and no, its not Halo 2's script, it was made a year after its realese. But, i just wanted to point out its simularity's.--NOTreal1 01:57, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it was pretty amusing, even if it was fake. Kora ‘Morhekee The Battle-Net My Conquests. 04:38, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I took the time to read the 117 (ring a bell?) pages of this 'script.' At first I might believe it, but after awhile, it grew way too cinematic and had way too many boss battles one right after the other (The Arbiter almost took the show too for a second). Halo 3 will disappoint me if the final sequence is A) vehicle driving or B) a boss battle. It's gotta be something original. Also, the E3 and ESPN trailers have all been confirmed to happen about 1/3 of the way through the game, and this script didn't feature any of it. Also, lets not put Halo: Uprising out of the picture either. Halo3 doesn't begin right where Halo2 ended (just like halo2 didn't begin where halo1 began).


 * 0... there's a script? Could someone link it to the page? :0 UNSCOH  General Blemo (Talk) (CSV) [[Image:General.png|50px]]

Cool if that is true it'll be awsome!!!!!!

wow
my god check out this site |click here its bloody awsome its about the forrunners and has somthing to do with halo 3 but listen u have to click the flash images to interact i did and it was a furruner thing what told me they had no choise well jus check it out and remember the hyperlinks are hidden in the moviing flash images User:Kami-Sama

Ok i've been on the site above and found three things well four if u count the video but i saved to my pc three things the scriped to the vid a seperate later on about somthing counting down and then after reaching zero reseting its self (possible halo powering up) and finally a image of a star map that i will upload now see below User:Kami-Sama

User:Kami-Sama click on it to get full size and notice the sybol at bottom right or is that left

Array Recorder Data(Halo's first firing), Log5 Transcript(video script), Slide Ref070107(Flood Infection Study), StarImage1(Star map) are the four things you can get from the website plus the video, and did any one notice that when entered throw the halo 3 website there are 4 other server that are locked -- MCDBBlits 17:44, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

The link doesn't work... help anyone? --Captain Jacob Rathens 18:48, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Just past it to the address bar or go to halo3.com it at the beginning of the site -- MCDBBlits 06:48, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

<< Hey, I found this aswell! A flood containment graph thing, on halo3.com. fludz &#39;carnttuchmee 18:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

New, Unnamed Weapons
The recent bungie articles have mentioned two new Covenant weapons. One of them is a dual, while the other is some sort of cannon dubbed the "Covenant Monstrosity." Any theories as to what they may be? I believe the heavy one is either a FRG variant (like the Halo 2 Hunter's gun), a miniature scarab-gun, or a grav-cannon. I think these weapons deserve some investigation to determine what they are.

The dualie is probably the mauler but the other is...interesting...the weird gun we saw in the E3 2007 trailer at 1:44? Or maybe it IS the cool-as-hell hunter fuel rod gun.

The "Covenant Monstrosity" is a nickname for the Covenant Carbine. -The Dark Lord Azathoth 20:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

OMFG I found someting new!
(I think) If you look carefully at the page in Gamepro that says Halo GOes Supernova, the spartan in the upper left corner and the one under it have different helmets! I believe that one is EVA and one is SPI, will someone please confirm this? BTW, I don't have an account, but I plan on making one, is it free?

---Yes, we can confirm that. And yes, it is free.


 * That's pretty common knowledge, sorry. Do you know when the issue comes out? [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|30px]] Kora ‘Morhekee The Battle-Net My Conquests. 02:11, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

release date for aus
just wondering what the release date is for aus, or is it same for europe. jameogle

yes, north america gets it the 25th the rest of the world gets it one day later-sogy

I'm not saying your wrong, but bungie only comfirmed europe's realese was a day later, not the entire worlds--NOTreal1 00:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

just the other day i read an EB games catalogue that said 25th, maybe there stupid User:jameogle 03:02, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Cover art?
I don't think the cover art for Halo 3 should be shown until we know exactly what the cover art is. we don't even know if thats the real thing (wasn't confirmed by bungie) should it be removed?--NOTreal1 01:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

7/7/07
Bungie loves the number seven as they have incorporated it into so many parts of the game like John-117, Arbiter is 7 letters long, Johnson seven letters long etc. Wonder what they'll do for the date of 7/7/07. Maybe theyll give us some extra juicy and pshyco crazy info for Halo 3. Like information so friggin great and big that our heads will explode. So good well want to by 7 copies for the hell of it. What do you think???--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  · <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES 01:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Possibly, i'm shure they'll do something for us (or themselves) at that date... maby an awsome update or the chiefs face ;).--NOTreal1 01:13, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Naaahhhh, I dont think they'll show the chiefs face. Nice thought. But Honestly I don't wanna see his face =( =).--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  · <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  19:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC) 01:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

They might have another Beta contest or something awesome on that day~!!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 02:44, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

beta contest? for the public?, most likely not for the public, but for them yes. Good guess. I'm hoping for a campain video or vidoc.--NOTreal1 04:43, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Or..campain beta!!(sounded like Caboose I know) The Evil O&#39;malley 05:05, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

It would be great if the let us have a campaign beta, like Halo 2 ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 09:34, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I bet the second of those 5 'servers' on halo3.com will be opened.

Why has it all turned into small text? And i'd love the idea of a Campaign ViDoc! Kora ‘Morhekee The Battle-Net My Conquests. 07:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * The small text is my fault. My sig for some reason does that. Sorry, But RR fixed it for me. So now it should be better. And yeah, a campaign Vidoc would be Kick Ass--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  [[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|25px]]· <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  19:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think Bungie would, with Vidoc of it they would probably let slip the story, ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 01:32, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * God damnit! Im leaving for Nicaragua the 7 so I wont know what it's gonna be till I come back! Does anybody here mind if I ask them when I come back if theere was an update???--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  [[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|25px]]· <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  00:14, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Heavy Weapons
HAs anyone noticed that the UNSC has 3 heavy weps? THe rocket, the splazer, the Missile Pod... it seems unfair to the Covenant, who have the Fuel rod and the brute shot.

The Covenant weapons are far more advance the the UNSC, you must be greatful they have something good against them!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 09:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah ya make a point with the UNSC having more Heavy Duty weapons but, what about vehicles. UNSC only really has Scorpian tank, The Hawk and uhh...cant remember. But the Covies got the Brute chopper, Wraith, Phantoms and there ships with big boom makers. They also have shields that deflect certain attacks.--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  · <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  00:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

It seems that the human has learned some of the technology from the Covenant, ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 02:01, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Most everyone already knows the advantages each side of the war has. Generally, humans are better on the ground, but are definetly overwhelmed in space battles. However, the most important advantage humanity has over the covenant is the fact that 'we' make our own weapons. With the exception of the spike grenade, bruteshot and spiker (all primitive, non-forerunner), all the covenant tech' is stuff they found by burial sites of the forerunners. Since we have the ability to adapt (one of the big results being the Mark V MJOLNIR armor), we have lots of guns on the ground (which is why we have, for heavy weapons, the rocket, the non-linear rifle, the missile pod, the chaingun, and one many miss- the flamethrower (thanks to the splitting of the covenant, we may now have what the covenant usually deployed as 'weapons' versus 'troops'- the Hunters :D )).

Something about the armor
Do you think Bungie has got the idea of the customize armor from GoO SIII?ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 10:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I dont see where else they got it from.--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  · <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  19:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Or maybe the armour on the cover of GoO was the first hint? Kora ‘Morhekee The Battle-Net My Conquests. 02:07, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I just felt something relating to the campaign, because if Bungie is only on with the multiplayer, they wouldn't put such an effort on the armor, would they?ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Theres an update on Bungie, posting a heap of pictures. Armour permutations (CQB and EVA) galore, and screenshots on the beta maps and on Last Resort and Epitaph. Not so much on Shrine. and a bit of info on the Brute Chopper.  Kora ‘Morhekee   The Battle-Net  My Conquests.  03:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Apparantly (this is already in the article) the aromr types need to be unlocked. The only thing I hope is that you don't have to pay microsoft points/do well on LIVE to get them (hopefully, they are unlocked in campaign/getting good enough of a 'meta-score')

I just hope that I would see one of these Spartans in the game, though I don't see how would Bungie merge than into campaign. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 11:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

The likely character thing
Do you think we should remove the Likely Character part on the page, because it's just speculation, the rules have made it clear not to post speculations on articles!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 11:32, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Campaign Level (Landfall-Jungle)?


This image seems to be another official Campaign image. The graphics look awesome, of course they've been improved since the last MC image. It looks like a jungle with a mount at the background. But look at this one...:


 * Wait a moment, there's something different between the Chief in the image and the Chief in the announcement trailer, how could you tell this is the Chief?ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:01, 6 July 2007 (UTC).


 * I think that's only the magic of light... different type (and direction) of light that in hte E3 2006 teaser. And this has waaay better graphics. You know, tomorrow is 07/07/07... and Monday Microsoft's E3 event. DeadGhost



It's an image of Mount Kilimandjaro. It fits perfectly with the previous image. Who knows... it's Bungie.



Thx DeadGhost !! - A HERO MUST RISE. BELIEVE. SEPTEMBER, 25th

Can you norminate it? It looks awesome!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Where did you get all the level names? (I haven't been up with Bungie weekly updates so don't blame me) ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * They discovered the list of achievements in Halo 3 and they include most, if not all, of the current names for the missions. --Forgottenlord 12:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * You can see the 9 Halo 3 levels here. This is the shortest Halo. But I don't agree with that list. I think that we'll play as the Arbiter again. I hope so. And I also hope that the levels are HUGE ones (and as long as Truth and Reconciliation). DeadGhost

Halo 3 Xbox
On microsoft.com they have a story about a new 360 to commemorate Halo 3 that has the halo theme.-- Arbiter32 13:39, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

New halo 3 weapon
Take a good look at the E3 trailer at 1:44. What is the Arbiter holding? Tell me if it's: A) a deployable plasma cannon or B) something else that's so special, Bungie won't tell us what it is...yet.70.100.166.161 21:12, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Its the covie turret.Appearently,it can be taken away from the ground like the human turret.I think that when taken, it has a limited battery. Spartan-G007 XBL gamertag:SpartanG007

I was thinking the exact same thing. 70.100.166.161 21:12, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Halo in game
is that another halo at 1:24-1:28 in the trailer because it looks like it has a large gap in the stucture


 * It is a Halo but it could be Delt Halo because as of the end of Halo 2 a rather large number of main characters are still on that ring and Halo 3 Campaign say that the level The Key is thought to take place in High Charity which as of Halo 2 is in obit near Delt Halo -- MCDBBlits 20:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

yeh, it does look different, but THERES loads of new stuff, like the new grenade, the new equiptment, come to think of it, thats all i can think of

Tell me what minute, second, is the new equippment at (ex: *:** ). I'm desperate(for no apparant reason) to know.Poison headcrab 03:15, 13 July 2007 (UTC) Never mind, I found it.

Gameplay on Landfall
Since the Arbiter and the Chief are both playable characters, how do you expect to play to characters at once?!!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 07:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * You don't have to play both *all* *the* *time*... you'll only play one of them. -- GPT ( talk )(eating) 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, it could be for co-op.--Geoffron 16:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking in co-op one would be mc and the other arbiter. I also think in levels where both are present you can pick which one you wanna play. OR. . .To give the game more replay value both characters have varying missions to accomplish the final goal so you can play as either to get more out of it.-DiablosInferno

Look at the Gallery
There is a picture where the title saids " Chief in the Forest, Friends in Cover" which there compare to it's picture on the right, the Chief is wearing a green armor, rather then a black one. Does it means there really are additional Spartans in the game?!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 08:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Probably just less light, or something. Ah well.  Kora ‘Morhekee   The Battle-Net  My Conquests.  08:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Remember there is a campaign pic issued by Bungie recently, about the MC standing in front of a mountain, does it means it's less light than the other one?ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 11:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I was talking about shadows. The leaves of the trees are casting shadows on his armour, and that's what makes it look darker. Sorry, i don't think i saw the pic you mentioned. Do you have a link?  Kora ‘Morhekee   The Battle-Net  My Conquests.  23:52, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

New Halo 3 Trailer
everbody check this link out http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/viewer.aspx?productId=1084&assetTypeId=2&shotId=8 -- Arbiter32 20:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Your link must be wrong--that's the trailer from E3. -- GPT ( talk )(eating) 21:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

it just said it was new and i cant keep with E3 most of the time so thats possible-- Arbiter32 15:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Flood render???
Has bungie finished rendering the flood?I really want to see what they look like this time.I hate that outline on the flood page.SPARTAN 346 17:59, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

2401
Why is 2401 listed as a likely character? He only appeared once throughout the entire game, and it was only for like two minutes. All he did was argue with Regret. -- Captain Obvious"Thank you, Captain Obvious!" 04:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Agreed. If it isn't confirmed, it should not be here. -- ED ( talk )(gaming) 05:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

If you are saying about Halo 3, I just think he might play an important role like the monitors.ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 08:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Well if Gravemind is in this one, I wouldn't put it past him (her, it?) to bring 2401 with him. You never know when you could use a monitor. Teflon4 10:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

THE END OF THE WORLD
Is the world gonna end in H3? I mean, come on. The ark, the new halo ring, the glassing in the new video, it looks like the world will end. But I figure this:

The humans learn they are the forerunners by using the index to unlock a data file in a library, figure out control over sentinels, destroy the brutes =D and live peacefully untill the flood R released again. Unfortunatley the halos are really shoddy now and must be torn down for new installations 2 B constructed they activate halo, some of them hide in the ark, they tear down all their stuff on earth and restart and goes in an infinate time loop.

Im not phsyco, I just think with all the installations and that stuff yeah U get the point.

<Font color="">Freekill Spoofer To Battle!

My theory is that Earth is a shield world and The Mc and Johnson move enough people into the shield part and Mc detonates the rings which would kill all the covy loyalist's and eventually starve the flood so one day humanity can restart on earth.-DiablosInferno

Well, I like that theory, there might be a possibility that Earth is a shield world!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 06:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

If we ARE the descendants of the forerunners, this would help to explain why the Shield World of Onyx wasn't used at all by them. There were either so few people that it didn't make a difference if they used it or not, or those on Onyx failed to get in the shield world, died, and those in Earth's Shield World survived the boom-boom of the halo's (confusing, but read it a few times and you may understand). Poison headcrab 16:09, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

OK i really think the forerunners=Humans, and it make sense if you see what the ark does. The ark is like a bomb shelter for halo right? OK so then if you analyze the bible, there was also an ark, in where Noam saved his family and all the species of animals in the planet. like a bomb shelter, but against the mighty "flood"(water.....or is it?). So if the halos where supposed to be fired to destroy the flood thousands of years ago, maybe not all the Forerunners=Humans made it at time into the "Ark" and the ones that survived populated the earth again, leaving technology behind, and starting a new life. Also you need to have in mind that history is not always right, as it states His-Story History. So scientifically, the human civilization started in "Africa"(halo 2 and 3 have a lot relation between Africa) thousands of years ago, maybe at the time that the bible states that Noam build his "Ark" so then the event of the bible is actually talking about the ark in halo, only misinterpreted. Also the bible says that Noam is related to Adam the "first male" in earth. All of this surrounds in the Halo universe don't get confuse between the halo history and the real history. BUT!!!!!!!!! since there is a comic in the Internet, about some forerunners robots building something in Africa while an African native watches he explains that they are "the gods" machines and they are here disturbing the mother nature, its possible humans might not be the forerunners. Sebias 2 19:59, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

What if the Shield world on Onyx is a prototype for the Ark on Earth -- MCDBBlits 19:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

From what i understand the Ark is just an activation device and the shields ar seperate. That would explain why there wasnt a seperate ark on onyx.-DiablosInferno

Cleanup?
What's wrong with it? It looks fine to me. --Geoffron 20:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Since the game has not yet been out, I think it need overall cleanup anytime after the game has been launchΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 11:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!
How do we know that was the Prophet of Truth who spoke at the beginning of the E3 2007 trailer??? Do you see him speaking?? Yes, it's most likely him, but until we know for sure, the name of ther person who said the quote should be: 'Anonymous.' That's why it's different now.Poison headcrab 02:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Do you think it's a new prophet??? The Evil O&#39;malley 00:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC) -Anything's possible at this point with halo 3. Poison headcrab 02:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

okay, put this straight, first, how do you know it's a prophet? -I said it was most likely a prophet. I did NOT say it was a prophet. Poison headcrab 02:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Spartan-G007 XBL gamertag:SpartanG007 it may be da LEADAR OF PROPHETS HOLY SHAT

Heh, i actually said 'regret' instead of 'truth.' OOPS! MY MISTAKE!Poison headcrab 02:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I think it's a Brute, maybe a Chieftain. How many Covenant races are that violent. Plus, it shows a ton of brutes during the speech. -- Darktrooper117

For the Opening line in the E3 trailer, who put it was a Brute who said that line?Kap2310 20:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I think it's a brute who's talking, only because prophets sound like old priests, but this guy sounds like an able warrior or a spartan gladiator? =P Grunty friends! 20:03, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Brutes says things that does not makes any sense with the previous sentence. It may be a prophet. But what if it's Gravemind, because the sentence saids "All of you,"ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 06:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


 * It could be Gravemind, but he talks slow doesn't he? The flood don't burn people, if anything, they drown them. I didn't think the flood knew where we lived, brutes do because of Regret's attack on Earth. [[Image:Halo_Scarab_Large.jpg|20px]] <font color="00FF00">Fludz 'Carnttuchmee <font color="FF0000">Kamekazi elite<font color="0000FF">Grunty friends! 10:31, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I removed the Gauss Hog
The Gauss Hog has not been confirmed yet, so I removed it. --User:MLG Cheehwawa

The EGM article has a screen shot with the gauss warthog in it. 70.100.166.161 21:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Can Someone Make A Link For This
http://www.thefinalfight.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=955

Captainmarko 03:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure about the facts, but I am sure no one would have put their time and energy in these makings. I must say not to put this up yet, just to confirm if it's true or not!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Elite Armor Types
In that EGM scan that someone loaded up it shows three Elites. It looks to me like the two on the sides are the same type. Also the ones on the sides look like the Elite Ranger armor and the one in the center looks like the Arbiter's armor. What do you think? -- Lordofmonsterisland  "Roar to me"  16:05, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

the center on looks like the typical elite armor from halo 2, but it's possible the arbiter or the orther elite armor from the four player campaign shot (the one on the right) could be the fourth elite type ~fortris

New map
In the new Bungie podcast on Bungie.net they talk about a level called "Long and Lean" for multiplayer with a "very special weapon" in the middle. It was hard to tell what they said, but I'll try and create a page for it. User:HaloFighter92

EDIT: I created the page, Long and Lean, it needs some work though, I need a content box and something that shows all the maps at the bottom, also I couldn't put level in the title. User: HaloFighter92

Ok, Long and Lean article fixed by RelentlessRecusant. Linked in Maps section on.

What's this?
Does anyone know? Any theories? A covie flamethrower?

I believe it is:OMG COVIE MISSILE POD!,or:OMG PLASMA MORTAR.It will be LEET anyways.

Spartan-G007 XBL gamertag:SpartanG007

I think it has the shape of the covenant plasma turret from halo 2, my opinion is that the plasma turret can be de-atached just like the regular UNSC turret but that is only my way of seeing it. Radzon 18:34, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

It cant b a turret because its too bulky.But it is confirmed that you can detach the covie turret, but that is something else. Spartan-G007 XBL gamertag:SpartanG007

Presents for Halopedia
Alright, I uploaded like 14 images for you guys that I ripped from the Halo 3 E3 2007 Trailer.



Click them to make them bigger, of course... =P

--<font color="Goldenrod">Reborn Knuxchao <font color="DarkGoldenrod">T <font color="SaddleBrown">C <font color="Black">R  15:39, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Rtas 'Vadumee
Is he going to be coming back for Halo 3? He was a pretty major character in the last game.--CT-5619 helmet comlink 05:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Excuse me?!?!?!!?! he'd BETTER be in the game, or i'll be VERY pissed off (and they had better not kill him off (if they even do) in Halo: Uprising becuase then half the people playing won't understand why he's not there!!)70.100.166.161 17:51, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, you would think so. But has anyone noticed that, when he's mentioned in the bio for one of the new Co-op elites, that his name is Rtas 'Vadum? With no ee? --MagickaMaster 03:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Wait, what?? <goes to bungie.net to look up the names of the other elites> they're Usze ‘Taham(dude in purple) and N’tho ‘Sraom(dude in blue). Nope, 'Half-Jaw' isn't a co-op character. <re-read's statement> OHHHHH. But the 'ee' may signify an elite who's in the fold of the covenant. Since 'Half-Jaw' isn't he signifys this by removing the 'ee' from his name.

flying brutes
some brutes have jetpacks in halo 3

look at frame 1464 and you will see a flying brute (in the E3 trailer)

it wont let me upload a picture for some reason

--Micahpharoh 19:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

There is already a page on them, don't worry about it. Also there are already pictures. --Ajax 013 19:58, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

ghost riders
in frame 1873 you see a grunt driving a ghost (E3 trailer)--71.33.95.1 20:01, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Not surprising, though. Grunts drove ghosts in Halo 2, but they were usually on the harder difficulty levels and were Major Grunts.

4 Player Co op
FINALLY I'LL HAVE A CHANCE ON LEGENDARY!--206.172.223.165 03:24, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but remember, if one of your four mates dies, you have to start back up at the CP. This will truley be the best game ever.

Do not corrupt faith! --<font color="Goldenrod">Reborn Knuxchao <font color="DarkGoldenrod">T <font color="SaddleBrown">C <font color="Black">R  03:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I just think that acting playing the game indivitually will be better, it's just gonna be tough, especially when you are having a poor game player at your company. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 07:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I hope that the other two elites will actually play a part in the plot and won't just be stand-in pedestrians during cutscenes. Poison headcrab 17:42, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I always hated kind of stuffs. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 08:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Too bad there's no 4 player co-op offline. (I don't have XBL and I'm not getting it. I'm an offliner!) <font color="00FF00">Fludz 'Carnttuchmee <font color="FF0000">Kamekazi elite<font color="0000FF">Grunty friends!
 * You can still play as Mr. Blue and Mr. Purple, so long as you have another friend with a 360 and can get 2 TV's next to one another. You DID keep the ethernet cable that came with the 360...right?  Oh, and you need 2 MORE friends to play with you.  It's called 'system link' and it costs you exactly zero dollars and zero cents.

Player Costimization
Why is player costimization (PC) under online co-op when PC should be under Multiplayer because that is what it is about. Now I have moved it to Multiplayer but someone moved it back so I'm just saying it should be under Multiplayer

Grubish360 18:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Other spartans wtf?
"The Arbiter and other SPARTANs[1] are also on Earth, fighting along side SPARTAN-117." From campaign plot part. WTF? other spartans? Please explain. 88.112.80.3 21:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Anyone who read the books knows the answer. The Master Cheif didn't return to earth alone. Through a series of mishaps, he ended up returning with Johnson, Cortana, along with 3 other spartans. The other three were on earth and helped fight off the covenant invasion with the covenant attacked a second time. There's also Spartan Maria-062 from the halo graphic novel who was living in Songham, South Korea just before the covenant first attacked and most likely remained on earth in the event that the covenant tried to attack again (which, as we can tell, they did). Poison headcrab 17:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Bungie have had the chance to insert SPARTANS before but have chosen not to for specific reasons. This slurry of edits about SPARTAN-IVs or other SPARTAN-IIs or SPARTAN-IIIs is unfounded, unrefrenced and unencyclopedic. --Ajax 013 17:49, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

True there is no proof yet that there will be Spartan-II's or Spartan-III's in Halo 3, but this does not rule out the possibility. But if I'm not mistaken, Maria was discharged from the Spartan program and the other three are trapped in Onyx's Shield World. -- Lordofmonsterisland  "Roar to me"  18:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Lordofmonsterisland. There don't seem to be any Spartans available to help the MC Finish the Fight. Remember, Maria-062 doesnt HAVE any MJOLNIR armour, and nobody knows where the last three spartans (not in shield world) are. Besides, the implementation of Saved Films would show identical Spartans following the Chief, which besides not fitting into canonicity with the game, would look slightly boring. With different Elites, with different backgrounds, we are given a reason why they are there, at least.  Kora ‘Morhekee   The Battle-Net  My Conquests.  20:00, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Maria actaully walks out of the Spartan program, she has no chance coming back, I bet her fighting skills are all lost during that time. There might be a chance when the three other Spartans returned to Earth, accompanied by some S-III. If they are following the chief, that means Mendez and Dr Halsey both returned to Earth. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 06:41, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

The article people seem to think signals the arrival of more SPARTANs was actually talking about armor permutation. Some people are way too gullible for their own good. Blue Ninja 08:50, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

We are talking about Spartans, it's only you who thinks the other way. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm almost positive Maria didn't lose all of her fighting skills. First off because, just prior to the start of Halo 2 she tested the new Mjolnir armor and she dropped in and fought with the ODSTs and still seemed to be pretty proficient with her weapons. And secondly, the simple fact that she's a Spartan. She can't lose her augmentations, so she wouls still be much more capable than the standard Marine, regardless of how much she has or has not been fighting. The only thing that I can see that would slow her down is that, unlike the other Spartans, she probably hasn't been in cryo for extended periods of time, so her biological age would be higher. Just a theory. --<font color="2F 4F 4F">MagickaMaster TalkWhy you keep me around. 02:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Even if Maria has joined in the Fight, UNSC wouldn't waste another MJOLNIR armor on her, would they, and of course if other Spartans turns up, it would be too much for the Covenant. Back to Maria, if she re-enters, she might only be in the ODST rather than fighting like the Spartans. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 02:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Bungie Studios has confirmed that no other Spartan-IIs will appear in Halo 3, just because it is "the story of the Master Chief alone." That is the reason why they continue to give him the grossly incorrect tagline as "the last Spartan-II". -- DEMON SPAWN  ED  04:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * That's what I hate about Bungie, not letting other Spartans join in the Fight!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Maria's wasn't discharged, she's was in the reserves. This means that in a time of a crisis (which seems to be the case of halo 3), she would be called back to duty. She may, however, have died when the covenant made their second attack on earth (not the first, as in the case of halo 2).Poison headcrab 22:28, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

There's quite a thread about this fact in the bungie boards, the link is in sources. the biggest question here is: Should this be regarded as a rumour, until Bungie or the game proves this possibility? I hope SPARTANS appear in Halo 3, it would be cool.Felix-157 18:38, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

First things first!
What are you going to do first when you get halo 3? I'm going to spend about an hour customizing my profile character =P <font color="00FF00">Fludz 'Carnttuchmee <font color="FF0000">Kamekazi elite<font color="0000FF">Grunty friends! 10:35, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

1.Customize Profile&settings

2.Go to multiplayer offline alone to test:settings,guns,vehicles,maps,settings and generally explore

3.OWN the Campaign

4.Explore Campaign or replay campaign

5.Invite friends to my house to show them cool stuff that they have not found.

Spartan-G007 XBL gamertag:SpartanG007

right list, wrong order. for me anyway.

1. Customize settings to acceptable level.

2. OWN the campaign.

3. Adjust settings.

4. Test multiplayer.

5. Explore/replay campaign

6. Play with friends and wow them with my wealth of knowledge.

--Rear Admiral Jacob Rathens 20:54, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm more of a "let's learn together" kind of guy. And I'd rather just play than mess around by myself for two hours memorizing weapon placements...

1. Play campaign with three other firends.

2. Adjust settings as we go along.

3. Jump right into multiplayer and ask the other guys what we don't understand.

--<font color="2F 4F 4F">MagickaMaster TalkWhy you keep me around. 01:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

My full list: (in order)

1. customizing my profile

2. customize and play a multiplayer match (on my own)

3. play campaign

4. call friend over to play co-op (when i get second controller)

5. play multiplayer with friend

6. play co-op with other friend

7. play 3 player match against both friends (when i get third controller)

8. take a break

9. BEAT THEM AGAIN!!!

10. all of the above, more than once!

(i don't don't have an xbox 360 yet but i was wondering... how many controllers fit in the xbox 360?) <font color="00FF00">Fludz 'Carnttuchmee <font color="FF0000">Kamekazi elite<font color="0000FF">Grunty friends!


 * 3 wired, 4 wireless/wired, 4 all-wireless.Poison headcrab 22:09, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

For me:

1- OWN the campaign, making sure controls are perfect along the way

2- OWN the meta-game

3- find all the terminals

4- find all the skulls (since skulls are small things, not large monitors)

5- customize character to awesomness levels, making sure he looks as close to a poison headcrab as possible

6- look at all the cool stuff the legendary game has, and regret that there are many who won't be able to own legendary edition

7- explore multiplayer, call up friends, and own their azzes while they frantically try and reload, only to deploy their power drainer/radar jammer (the best part!!!). Then, when my friend who uses nub tact with the scorpion tries and run me over, i'll drop the hammer down upon him (the bestest part :)  ).Poison headcrab 22:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Spartan 1138 will: 1. use the AV calabration tool to tweak me stuff.

2. watch all the cut scenes on the DVD

3. Play the campaign.

4. Play arond in multiplayer-- MCPO Spartan  1138  22:10, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Trooper117 will: 1.Play the campaign on Normal (To get used to the new button configuration and the harder, better Brutes)

2.Play the multiplayer maps by myself and find all the weapons, equipment and grenades(with help from the Halo 3 Stragey Guide

3.Customize my Spartan

4.Play Xbox Live for a few weeks.

5.Beat the campaign of Heroic.

6.Play more Xbox Live for a few weeks.

7.Get together with friends on Xbox Live and beat Legendary!!!

8.Play more Xbox Live. Yeah!!!!!

Trooper117

1. Customize character slightly (at least get UNSC Service Tag)

2. Use calibration tools to maximize the enjoyance of my ownage.

3. Own Campaign on Easy.

4. Play Campaign on Normal.

5. Read Beastarium.

6. Watch things on DVD

7. Play multiplayer by myself to find best spots and weapon placecements, etc...

8. Play Multiplayer/Online Co-Op Heroic and Legendary

9. Do things to improve my game Pt. 2 (find skulls, find terminals)

NOT Christopher Lee
About the 'You are, all of you, vermin'-line, it's NOT voiced by Christopher Lee - as this page suggests. The guy talking is Terrence Stamp, who's also known for voicing Mankar Camoran in 'The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion'. Blue Ninja 08:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Apparently is been confirmed as Christoper Lee, though i think thats a mistake like, check this wiki page for him if you want the proof. --Ajax 013 12:45, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Where is it confirmed? ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:47, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Confirmed? It doesn't even sound like Christopher Lee. :O Blue Ninja 14:52, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Apparently its on his Wiki page though it may be a noob edit. I know it doesn't sound like him but remember actors change their voices :P though i checked IMDB.com and i found nothing about him or anyone doing that vocie on there. --Ajax 013 14:57, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, but seriously, that voice is Terrence Stamp. I instantly recognized him. I'm calling noob edit. Blue Ninja 15:09, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Well for now 'voice recognition' is trumped by the facts at the moment (as unture as those facts may possibly be) so leave it be. --Ajax 013 15:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, guess you're right. Blue Ninja 15:14, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Let's put this topic aside, I bet Bungie would have told us sooner or later. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 02:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The person who did the voice job will likely be credited in Halo 3. we will see then. -- DEMON SPAWN  ED  04:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Wait just one minute christopher lee is my favorite actor of all time i have heard his voice everywhere in movies and in games and i will tell you for a complete fact that voice is christopher lee end of question i know christopher lees voice there is no one else who has that voice.Arbiter925 21:13, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

What evidence do you have to support your theory? ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 11:36, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Well for proof if you own a movie that has Christopher lee playing in it then you can compare his voice to the voice you hear in the e3 trailer but to find his exact voice, because they kind of mess around with it to make it sound more alien, you have to listen to the part were he "that you might escape the coming fire" thats were you here his actual non tampered with voice and he has been my favorite actor for many years and i have watched almost all of his movies here in the us and i know that is christopher lees voice no one else has a voice like that no one does.Arbiter925 16:34, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Terrence Stamp does. Blue Ninja 21:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the 'that you might escape the coming fire' DOES sound similar to that Count Dooku guy from Star Wars (*cough* Christopher Lee *cough*).Poison headcrab 21:56, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Exactly its Christopher lee not Terrence stamp and not terrance stamp doesnt sound like christopher lee theres only one voice like christopher lee and its the voice you hear in the trailer its just been made to sound more alien by bungie.Arbiter925 23:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

I guess we'll find out when Halo 3 comes out. He voices Mankar Camaron, who you can hear here. 77cIfZHx9g Blue Ninja 17:29, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

It sounds alot like christopher lee, and it would make sense because he ALWAYS plays the bad guy

New campaign level
In the newest bungie top story (8/3/07) it said "At the Amsterdam event, we basically assembled a bunch of European press and showed them some Campaign (Jungle and Tsavo Highway levels)" Is Jungle a new campaign level? -- Uneven elephant 01:40, 7 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm pretty sure he means Sierra 117, which takes place in a Jungle. You actually got me going there! CommanderTony 01:42, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Something interesting
This is actually taken from an image on halopedia itself, BUT... http://images1.wikia.com/halo/images/0/09/Guardiancombat.jpeg

Not only is this the first time we see the redicle for the mauler...but look at the top-middle of the screen. The normal shield bar isn't there. I think the player is either: A) an elite OR B) is wearing a Spartan helmet OTHER THAN the normal MARK VI helmet.Poison headcrab 21:57, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

The shield bar is there. ;) Blue Ninja 10:23, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah W e know the shield is there but we are seeing the shield bar. <font color="Black">Clavix2  <font color="Red">TALK TO ME <font color="Black">Things I done 21:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

But he may have a point. Yes, it's there, but look at the shape. It's not a straight bar like the Chief's, it curves downward in the middle. And look at the bottom corners, there's weird little lines on there. I think this might be an EVA helmet's HUD.


 * yeah, I thought CBQ at first, but if it was CBQ, then the flaps would cover a part of the helmet view. Still, the lines DO seem to match more with EVA.Poison headcrab 22:01, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually I have the new EGM and I saw that to. It was in a multiplayer image. Grubish360 13:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

It's an Elites HUD

Yeah...it's an elite HUD (check this image of an elite with the hammer (once again, halopedian image)):

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Gravhame.JPG

elephant
is te elephant going to be driveble and does it have any wepons that the driver can use ot just the turret chadd

It should be driveable, but I'm thinking the turrets will be the only usuable weapons on board. It might have rockets, or something, but come on, the fact that you're driving a huge-ass sand crawler should be cool enough by itself. :p Blue Ninja 10:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The pelican
Ok so i see the pelican cannot be drived but does that mean you cannot be seated in the back like in halo ce or use the turrets like the marines in halo 2? Radzon 22:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so, the pelican is a major transport in the game. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 11:32, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

So it was in halo 2 but you never got to ride it while in the game Radzon 18:00, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Walkthorough: Official Strategy Guide
The Halo 3 Walkthrough will be release the same date as halo 3 (sept 25)

For reference Check Gamestop release date

Warning: POSSIBLE Spoiler
http://flamesoffeenix.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/believe.jpglink title

I almost cried the first time I saw this (no, seriously, my eyes started to well). Oh, and that looks like something the MC might say in halo 3.


 * this is exactly 149 years after halo 3 comes out. 1+4+9= 14. 14/2= 7.Poison headcrab 21:59, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

The chiefs gonna die? Im getting fedup of every good hero dieing at the end of films and games... I hope they dnt ruin the ending of halo by making him die in some heroic scene, I like the living heroes. This is danny, forgot my password XD

Not to be snitty but thats been poted quite a few times before and it has its own page. And its set five hundred fourty nine years after Halo 3 is released(which is set in 2007 and the concert is set in 2556). --Ajax 013 22:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Why did I say 149 years?? I'm an idiot. It is 549 years, thank you for correcting me. And 'that page' is most likely where I got this from...but I only just found it. Wierd. andway, here's a question for you Danny. HOW MANY video games have their protagonist die at the end? Not many, if I recall.Poison headcrab 03:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Its probably there just to trick you theyre not going to kill of the chief they just cant.Arbiter925 23:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Random person: OMG!!! You play as an elite in halo 2!!!! The people: They're probably trying to trick you, they're not gonna let you play as an elite. They just can't, it doesn't make sense why they would!!! Random person: Told ya so!!!!

So if MC does die, don't ever tell anyone or anything that I didn't told ya so. If he doesn't, that's cool with me, though with everything else released, I feel that his death......is inevitable.Poison headcrab 03:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

2553 with a MC orchestra? MC must have died! ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 13:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Read this weekly update. It says and I quote "There are no spoilers of any kind in the marketing." So that clears it up as far as i'm concerned. Besides, the picture seems just a little too obvious. I don't think Bungie would authorize the release of something that foretells the death of Master Chief. Also, another quote from Bungie, when asked about the Believe tagline. "The “Believe” tagline will make itself clearer, soon." So we will know what all this is really about soon enough, hopefully before Halo 3 actually is released. Trooper117 19:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

beta code?
I know it exists, I cannot find it. I found part of it once on a forum but now it's lost. Does anyone know where the beta code is? Random people confirm things from a beta code I cannot find... <font color="00FF00">Fludz 'Carnttuchmee <font color="FF0000">Kamekazi elite<font color="0000FF">Grunty friends!


 * Google search is your friend. Here: http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/13539/Halo-3-Beta-Code-Confirms-4-Player-CoOp-Over-Xbox-Live/ -The Dark Lord Azathoth 11:33, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you Azathoth, but I thought the mauler was in the code yet it's not ritten on the page? [[Image:Halo_Scarab_Large.jpg|35px]] <font color="00FF00">Fludz 'Carnttuchmee <font color="FF0000">Kamekazi elite<font color="0000FF">Grunty friends!


 * Excavator=mauler. -The Dark Lord Azathoth 19:07, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

The Crows Nest
What is that? they change "holdout"? where did you get your information from? ForwardKi1ler 20:41, 10 August 2007 (UTC)ForwardKi1ler

Seventh Column or Seventh Columnist or something along those lines. Its legit info. --Ajax 013 21:15, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah it was mentioned in a Bungie podcast.Trooper117 18:57, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

E3 quote dispute
"You are, all of you, vermin. Cowering in the dirt, thinking what? That you might escape the coming fire? Your    world will burn until its surface is but glass." —Unknown character, speculated to be the Prophet of Truth, from the Halo 3 E3 2007 Trailer

that's the prophet of truth??? that doesn't sound anything like him whatsoever. It sounds more like some brute to me. if you listen to the prophet of truth in this video, you will see what I mean --Charles II

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Yeah, we had a small dispute about who exactly VOICED the trailer. But, as to answer your question, I dont think it's the prophet of truth either. Blue Ninja 09:21, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Well voices of other characters have changed from game to game along with the design of various items, why not Truth? :P of course it is all just assumption. --Ajax 013 14:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Of coarse you should know miranda's voice has changed they wanted someone with an accent right well this happens voices change. Christopher Lee could have just taken over for Micheal Wincott and i think Christopher Lee is obviously the better actor and voice.Arbiter925 16:41, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

well, that's true, that they could have gotten a new voice actor for truth, but even still, that doesn't sound prophet-ish. it sounds brute-ish Charles II 19:25 (UTC), August 11


 * Yeah, does sound more Like a Brute. Prophet of Truth Doent sound anything like that. Unlikely but maybe a new prophet or Tartarus was reserected.--<font color=Black>MYH.Q.  [[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|25px]]· <font color=Black>MY <font color="#78866B">ORDERS ·  <font color=#78866B>MY BAT <font color=#6B8E23>TL  ES  20:08, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

thank you. although time travel is a likely possibility, I doubt that something that drastic will happen. Charles II

Yeah, did you even read the stuff previously posted? Voice Actors come and go but sarge, cortana and the chief will always stay :D:D:D:D --Ajax 013 20:24, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Just one thing I'd like to add - I saw absolutely no problem with Michael Wincott! He did an awesome Prophet, and his voice was perfectly suited to the mix of sophistication and menace of Truth. Surely they wouldnt simply replace him to get big-name-stars? That's what MOVIES do, and they dont always work out. I can only hope that they keep him on, and this is some other character - though still a cool one!  Kora ‘Morhekee   The Battle-Net  My Conquests.  20:29, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Michael Wincott was a great prophet but christopher lees voice is better i like the change if its a change.Arbiter925 02:44, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Theoretical Vehicles and Weapons
1. Brute Tank (Currently existing brute vehicles include "Ghost" type and "Spectre/Warthog" type, so the only remaining Brute Ground vehicle would be a Tank.) --user:Darktrooper117

2. Brute Flier (Banshees aren't really designed for the physiology of Brutes, so the higher ranking brutes may have custom Fliers). --user:Darktrooper117

3. Excavator (Although previously the name of the Mauler, it may be a portable variant of a Scarab Gun, due to the original purpose of a Scarab). --user:Darktrooper117

4. Rocket Warthog (Warthog with Missile Pod). --user:Darktrooper117

1. I think theres only one more brute vehicle to be announced, possibly a tank (not the brute wraith!) or possibly the 'Rapture'.

2. Like i said, one more brute vehicle, and theres no need to clog the sky more, i doubt a flier.

3. Excavators a pistol, as found in the code and is believed to be the Mauler. No Scarab gun, that was just a hidden bonus and non canon weapon.

4.The 'Missle Pod Hog' is currently just a rumour being spreaded by OXM, nothing concrete and no pictures have been shown yet, besides, whats the point in it? We have the M12 LRV for infantry and air targets and the M12G1 for vehicles.

--Ajax 013 22:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

3. Excavators a pistol, as found in the code and is believed to be the Mauler. No Scarab gun, that was just a hidden bonus and non canon weapon.

I know that, but they could make a canonical version of it: imagine a miniaturized variant that acts as a covenant excavation tool, but can also be used as an improv weapon. Also, the Mauler used to be the name for a brute vehicle, so is it that hard to imagine that the excavator could be something else now? -- user:Darktrooper117

Possibly but it was in the code as a pistol type weapon (aka one handed) and if it does stay in it will stay that way most likely. Also i'd say the Mauler is pretty good at excavating peoples insides :D --Ajax 013 14:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

4.The 'Missle Pod Hog' is currently just a rumour being spreaded by OXM, nothing concrete and no pictures have been shown yet, besides, whats the point in it? We have the M12 LRV for infantry and air targets and the M12G1 for vehicles.

The Gauss Hog is great for land vehicles, but air vehicles can be a pain when you can't track them fast enough. Therefore, a Missile Hog would be perfect for bringing down aircraft. -- user:Darktrooper117

Last time i checked thats what the M41 Light Anti Aircraft Gun on the M12 LRV is for. --Ajax 013 14:34, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

The Storm Game Level.
It says MC kills Jiralhanae and Lekgolo guarding the big gun thing. That doesnt make sense as Lekgolo are Separatists, and we, the Jiralhanae remain loyal to the Hierarchs.  Chieftain Maccus  Comm  22:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Well the Hunters joining the Elites is somewhat ambivilous, bungie made no official announcments and we wouldn't want to lose Hunters as enemies would we? :P --Ajax 013 23:27, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Some grunts are not on the sperartists side, I bet some Hunters may have been recurit to the Loyalists. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 02:36, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Thats because the grunts are cowards and don't know who to join but the hunters have given their loyalties to the elites.Arbiter925 15:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

The loyalties of the various species is never atchually said outloud in the every piece of canon, par the Elites (sorta). THe only part that ever did was deleted material, theres a reason why it was deleted. Like i said before, losing Grunts and Hunters as enemies doesn't feel right. Fightin just Jackals, Drones and Brutes in place of Elites would be boring. THe way it is going it will jsut be like fighting the Covenant before the Schism, with Brutes instead of Elites. --Ajax 013 16:03, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

We can't put any factual information about all this down, so we can't say anything for certain. -- DEMON SPAWN  ED  05:35, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

But I bet we can sort this out by discussing about it. See, I too, thought the hunters are on the Sperartists side, but since the E3 Trailer, I am in doubt. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 13:01, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thief!!
If anyone claims to have the idea to separated the covenant weapons first, he or she is a lier. I was the one to separate them first but someone edited it back to the way it was only to have someone separate the weapons again. I ask that who ever separated the covenant weapons should not claim to have done it first. I know it was an obvious idea but don't claim you have done it first. Thank you. --Hydraman 01:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Altogether irrelavent who did it first. This is a community project. -- DEMON SPAWN  ED  05:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Is that actually confirmed?
Quote from page:

"The Arbiter and other SPARTANs are also on Earth, fighting along side SPARTAN-117."

The Arbiter thing is fine, but the other Spartans thing is where my issue is. I understand that the UK OXM mentioned this, but EGM also made a couple of mistakes in there most recent cover story on Halo 3, stating that Sierra 117 is not the first level, when afterwards Bungie went onto confirm that it is. So I recommend that that information be removed until Bungie has officially confirmed it themselves, being that information like that is a huge deal, and it is highly unlikely that any magazine would get actual information like that without Bungie putting it on their own site. Thanks.

Ctg867 06:35, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Frankie confirmed that some stuff OXM say is BULL####, including the existance of other spartans.

Spartan-G007 XBL gamertag:SpartanG007 (currently have red ring of D3TH)

Yeah, EGM got really confuddled over sutff but OXM jsut sounds like its rumou milling stuff. THe probs got confused over the armour permutations. --Ajax 013 09:52, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

So I'd appreciate if a staff member would change that. >_>

Ctg867 05:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Why can't you change it? ¬_¬. Besides, its all ready been cleansed from Halopedia, i personally saw to that. --Ajax 013 17:35, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Well last time I changed something that was claiming specualtion as fact, it got deleted by you. >_> And what do you mean cleansed from Halopedia? It got removed from the page? I didn't notice. Good to know.

Ctg867 03:05, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

About the 'Confirmed Weapons' list...
Wouldn't it be better if, instead of using the 'Covenant Seperatist' and 'Covenant Loyalist' nomen, we simply used 'Covenant' and 'Brute'? All new Covie weapons appear to be Brute weapons, and several weapons woudn't need to be posted twice. Blue Ninja 13:02, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree. I find it, in its current state, to be unnecessarilly repetitive.--Captain Ghost 13:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it looks much more effecient with the two lists and while repetetive, it may stop new users from being confused over the weapon lists. I know its repetetive but it is much more effective for charting the three sides in the conflict. --Ajax 013 13:18, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Perhaps. But there'd still be seperate lists for Covenant Standard and Brute weapons. After all, there's really no confirmation that the Seperatists do or do not use the same weapons. And if they're still "Covenant" Seperatists, then it follows that they may be listed as using "Standard" Covenenant weapons. It's just my opinion. I think it would look better without the repetition.--Captain Ghost 13:59, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * THres the problem of there being weapons the seperatists might not use, weapons the loyalists might not use, or alternativly, weapons only the Seperatists have and weapons the loyalists only have (brut weapons of course :P) etc which means should Halo 3 comes out that means we will have to bring the two lists them, which would jsut be a pain in the ass, thus this one is better in the long run. Come the end of spetmeber, if i am wrong, feel free to change it.


 * I'm not sure how much of a difference it will make in that "pain in the ass" part to have to add things then that we're removing now. But, for now, I'll accede.--Captain Ghost 14:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


 * I find it a good idea to separate the covenant weapons to Loyalist and Seperatist. Even if the weapons are repeated, it will help people figure out which group will have which weapons so they can know where to get a weapon from. --Hydraman 01:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

OK, I can't help but notice that this has gone unheeded and has undergone various changes since this discussion. Ajax, as you seem to be the greatest voice for "Loyalist-Seperatist," I address this to you. I grow tired of seeing this constant change and you grow tired of changing it, as do we all. Therefore, I suggest leaving it in its current state and, when the game is released, I will personally take care of returning it to "Loyalist-Seperatist" should the need arise. As it is, I find it best not to mess around anymore.--Captain Ghost 00:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)


 * And all the people that heard Captain Ghost gave him a round of applause. *and the crowd goes wild* -- Lordofmonsterisland "Roar to me"  00:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Honeslty, i think the list in its current state is unencyclopedic and misleading, but i will cede for now. --Ajax 013 00:47, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Fusion Core -Also may be equipment . WTF?
Who added that? It is totally baseless speculation. 71.189.22.224 05:19, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Countdown Website
I created that page for someone to move it to the external links on the Halo 3 page because I couldn't. Everyone should check out the website to know exactly how much time is left until Halo 3. Trooper117 18:55, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Covenant Ball Turret
We appears to have a vandal that removes it from the article all the time.

Saved Films
Is it just me or I can't find the saved films feature, or I just can't find it..68.145.77.173 01:56, 22 August 2007 (UTC)