Forum:Definite definitions

Seems like several users are having some difficulties identifying easter eggs from glitches (and vice versa) and the difference between music and a song. This thread would serve as a general reminder to users (and those confused) on the proper definitions.

Music
"Piece" and "Composition" can generally be used interchangeably - both refer to any musical work, although "piece" usually connotes a less substantial musical work then "composition" does.

To be a "song", a musical work has to meet two criteria: (1) it must have a component of singing (unless it is referred to as a "song without words", in which case it wouldn't) and (2) it must be relatively short (an opera or a cantata would not be considered a song for this reason, although both of those pieces can be said to contain several songs). Note that a "vocalese" (which is a song without specific words- typically sung to "ah" or "ooh") can be considered a song as well.

[A] song can be a piece or a composition, but not all pieces and compositions are songs.


 * Reference
 * Yahoo! Answers: How do you define "song"?

Glitches
The Glitches category has quite an amount of glitches articles, most of which are simple (such as Repairs glitch), short (such as Dead shielded Emile) and trivial (such as Flipping Warthog). All of these can be covered in their respective articles. This is different to articles such as the BXR, Drive an AA Wraith.

If the Glitch is notable as to require extensive instructions to achieve it, then it should be given its own article.

Easter Eggs
Like the Glitches category, the Easter Eggs category is also filled with trivial easter eggs that could simply be covered in their respective parent articles (in the Trivia section). As provided in the category, an easter egg is an " intentional hidden message or feature in an object". Emphasis added. Thus, what is important is whether such things were intentionally left by the developers.

For example, Linda-058 Easter egg is not an easter egg; it is in fact a definite acknowledgment that she was present on the Autumn before the ship crash-landed (canon!). It should not be considered as an easter egg unless the developers themselves intended to make such appearance an easter egg. This is different to John-117 in cryo: Bungie admitted that they intentionally left it in the cutscene.

If the Easter Egg is notable as to require extensive instructions to view it, then it should be given its own article.

Feel free to comment to improve this! — subtank   13:56, 12 September 2012 (EDT)

Comments
Yo dawg, I herd you like definitions... Depends. Some easter eggs are easier to find than others, and don't require extensively leaving the path of the game, such as random AI chatter versus stuff like the skulls. Likewise, what if the glitches documented are randomly occurring ones that can't be instructed on, like Giant Spartan Glitch? Tuckerscreator (stalk ) 16:05, 12 September 2012 (EDT)

I agree with everything except for the easter eggs. Like Tuckerscreator said, some easter eggs are easier to find than others. Linda-058 Easter egg should count as an easter egg. A bad example would be the (already deleted) Screaming Miranda Keyes, which is really a "line" that is rarely triggered since Keyes is rarely seen in combat. If Keyes is seen in combat, she would probably "scream" when hurt. Another bad example would be the Paranoid Marine, which isn't an easter egg, but a device Bungie used to create an eerie atmosphere in the level. Besides, he's intended to be seen by the player and he's confirmed to be canon in The Flood. Secret Marine on The Covenant and its CE counterpart Unarmed Marine Easter Egg are also bad examples for an easter egg. These are mechanics left by Bungie, hidden in a place they thought no one would find. Just my thoughts. — S331 (COM • Mission Log • Profile) 21:37, 12 September 2012 (EDT)