Talk:Main Page/Archive 15

Covenant Species Weights
I know there isn't much room in Wikis for jokes, but here's just one to start off a long analysis. Please don't ban me. Cracked.com ran an article called 5 Things We're Making Fatter in Addition to Ourselves. And I've noticed a somewhat similar trend over the Covenant species articles with their weights. They've almost all gone up, to somewhat ridiculous levels, with the exception of Elites, who have lost about 200 lbs. and Prophets, who've stayed the same.

I don't have precise figures to quote, but from memory here is a comparison of the original species weight to the current one:

Grunts: 118 kg/260 lbs (current) vs. 110 lbs (original)

Jackals: 88 kg/195 lbs (current) vs. ~150 lbs (original)

Drones: 130 kg/280 lbs (current) vs. ~130 lbs (original)

Brutes: 680 kg/1500 lbs (current) vs. 1100 lbs (original)

Just looking at these, the Grunt and Drone figures seem ridiculous. How does a Grunt, a much shorter and smaller creature than a human, weigh in so much heavier? And the Drone would be in the obese category in human classification, yet not only is it a pretty trim-looking creature, it's a flying one.

The Jackal and Brute aren't as egregious as this, but they're still somewhat implausible figures. The Jackal is supposed to have hollow bones and it looks pretty skinny, but it's probably the most acceptable figure out of these four. Before the Elite's weight was changed from around 500 to its present of around 320 lbs, the Brute weighed 1,100. So it weighed a little more than twice as much as an Elite. Plausible. Now with the new figures, the Brute weighs 5 times as much as an Elite. Which makes little sense to me.

The source of these figures seems to be the Halo Encyclopedia, and I think the standard is to use the newest material as the main source in case of conflicts. But we've all read through/contributed to the rants about how riddled with errors the Encyclopedia is, and I think I can see the source of the error in some of these cases.

The've mixed up kilograms with pounds.

It makes very strong sense for the Grunt and the Drone especially, because those kilogram figures are almost the same as the old pound figures. The Jackal would be a little bit on the anorexic side if it were only 88 pounds, so in that case the 195 lb. figure should probably be more correct. The Brute was always a heavyweight, but consider, if it were 680 pounds it would weigh a little more than twice as much as the old Elite did, the same that it used to be when the Elite was 500.

My proposal is to change the weights of the Grunt, Drone, and possibly the Brute so that it's the same number in pounds that it is now in kilograms. If it's unacceptable to consider correcting typos/errors in the Halo Encyclopedia like that, then my proposal is to find the more accurate-sounding numbers in the old sources, and replace the current ones with those. Flayer92 01:33, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * The Unggoy are 5 foot 6 inches. The Yanme'e are 5 foot 10 inches and the Kig-yar are 6 foot 8 inches. Just wanted to let you know in case you didn't notice yet. ;) --Invincibilityhud.svg Ultra Force  17:32, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

As for the weight issue, I think that there weight should be based on their size, and hight. This is my opinion. Don't quote me. For grunts, which are about 4 to 5 feet tall, and are squat, like a frog, I think that they weigh approximately 150 to 250 lbs. Jackals, whitch are about 5 to 6 feet tall, about as tall as an average human, and are bird like, with hollow bones, should weigh about the same as grunts. Drones, which are about the size of grunts, would weigh about 350 to 450 lbs. This is because of the drones bulky exo-skeloton. As for them flying, their home planet has a higher gravity than Earth's. There for, it makes sense that they would be able to fly better on a lower gravity planet, like Earth or Reach. As for Elites, the covenents main fighting force, with a height of about 8 feet, and being very lean and muscular, weigh approximately 500 to 600 lbs. Coupled with thier body armor, about 600 to 700 lbs. Brutes, which are about a foot taller than Elites, weigh about 800 to 1000 lbs. This is becaus they live on a planet that has twice the gravity of earth, and are similar to gorillas. As for Hunters, witch are about 12 feet tall standing up, I think that a good portion of their weight is in their armor. With their armor, I think that they weigh about 1500 lbs, give of take. Remember, this is just my opinion. If you have any comments just post.Siphon117 22:09, 17 December 2010 (EST)


 * You have to remember grunts and drones have an exoskeltion, like bugs, so they are pretty heavy. http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9315/signxb.jpg 13:41, 15 January 2011 (EST)

Source formatting
I suggest we change formatting of sources for books and games because I think it looks a bit more precise. And here are my suggestions for my proposal: And as an example: If you want to source a quote from page of Halo Encyclopedia as an example:
 * 1) Books:, or if you want to link right to the book:
 * 2) Games:  ("Quote (optional)"), or if you want to link right to the game:

And for something like a section from a level in Halo 3:

setting, so they don't function properly and are near-unusable. Problem affects Firefox 3.6.3 Portable and possibly higher versions as well. Have not tested on other browsers -- can't at this time.

Simple fix that you guys could implement for Halopedia specifically:
 * 1) navigation div.sub-menu.widget{position:absolute}

The problem stems from some (useless) CSS meant for browsers with JavaScript turned off; the CSS sets submenus to. It seems to have been intended to make the menus usable with JS off. It has absolutely no useful effect, however, because the submenus don't even exist on the page when JS is off. (As part of Wikia's dreadful menu system, the menus are created dynamically, with their contents retrieved via AJAX.) This CSS, then, has no point; it may be safely overriden without further disadvantaging JS-less browsers.

So you can implement the fix listed above and solve the menu issue for Halopedia specifically, or you can wait for Wikia to fix the problem. Alternatively, if anyone here is friends with a Wikia staffer, you can pass the fix onto them and see what they can do for Wikia as a whole.

By the way, I've been away for a while. Love what you guys've done with the place.  DavidJCobb  22:24, September 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Added and done. Haven't encountered anyone having the problem so far. Anyway, don't be too happy. A new skin is coming out soon and will replace Monaco. Keep a look out for bugs. :) -  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 22:29, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

i think that's bogus
Personally, i think that the covenant soldiers have stayed in shape. in halo 3 they were almost all skinny. and if they do look fat, that is just their large amount of armor.

couldn't agree more,also arbiter had realy thick armor in halo wars,the he was stripped of rank and armor in halo 2 right? after that he fled to humans?or was it before that?(EliteHonorGuard 14:42, September 26, 2010 (UTC))

Halo Wars Arby and Halo:2/Halo:3 Arby are 2 different people/lizards/squids.Halo wars Arby dies at the end of the game and the Halo Trilogy's Arby was a Fleet Admiral in Halo:CE.He only became the Arbiter at the beginning of Halo:2 X Aikou x 01:36, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

What the?
Didn't Halopedia have a Reach theme a few days ago? This is very confusing.Blahmarrow 13:41, September 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was turned off like 20 minutes ago, actually.--  Fore  run  ner  13:47, September 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's over.-  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 13:43, September 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was a special theme for the release of Reach. We hadn't changed permanently. --Dragonc laws (talk ) 18:50, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah alright then. I thought there was a problem with something! Glad I was wrong!Blahmarrow 22:19, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually preferred the Reach theme. Ah well - change comes in leaps and bounds, for better or worse. --  Specops306   Autocrat     Qur'a 'Morhek   04:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I actually preferred the Reach theme. Ah well - change comes in leaps and bounds, for better or worse. --  Specops306   Autocrat     Qur'a 'Morhek   04:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

"New content" on Reach articles
I think the game has been out long enough that we can start removing this tag on some articles like commendations and medals, where all the information is already there. Yea/nay? KickButtUnggoy 21:46, September 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * It depends on the page, use your best judgment. Que   Sera,  Sera  19:23, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * I agreeBlahmarrow 22:40, September 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * As long as it's removed once the page in question has been updated with the new content. There's really no point in removing it until then, since it kind of defeats the whole purpose of the template. Sometimes "new content" can get added weeks or even months after a new title has been released. But yeah, if all the available info is there, go right ahead. --Jugus (Talk  | Contribs ) 19:23, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page
The main page looks pretty shabby at the moment. Is it going to be tidied up any time soon? 86.138.197.204 23:41, 30 October 2010 (EDT)

I would think so. Halopedians are hoping for the site to be fully completed by Jan 2011.--Blahmarrow 14:14, 31 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Ah, that's very good. Just hope this site surpasses the Wikia one. 217.39.87.129 18:08, 2 November 2010 (EDT)

Dude. Anything is better than the wikia one--Blahmarrow 17:42, 11 April 2011 (EDT)

Bold/Overly Black Main Page
I think that the text in the rounded boxes as well as the borders of the boxes are way too black. It makes the main page look rather, unappealing. I would like to see it improved, but I don't want to put a bunch of work into it unless there is a general consensus. So what do you guys think? Matortheeternal 15:09, 12 November 2010 (EST)
 * I took initiative and lowered the padding on the rounded boxes from 2px to 1px. I would also like to unbold the font, and maybe change it from Century Gothic to Arial.  But I'm not going to do this until someone tells me I can.  Matortheeternal 15:35, 12 November 2010 (EST)
 * Added arial and sans serif as alternatives in case the user's computer doesn't support Century Gothic.-  <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 17:06, 12 November 2010 (EST)
 * Ok, that's a good start, but I think it'd be good if we could unbold the text in the contentboxes. I've tried to find where it tells the text to turn bold in Template:Header and Template:Header/2, but I can't find it.  I'll check again.  Matortheeternal 17:03, 13 November 2010 (EST)
 * Yeah I just got totally lost. I don't understand this whole visual id thing.  Like, if I want to unbolb the text in the navbar, I just see {{{basestyle|}} and {{{titlestyle|}} and a bunch of other crap.  I guess I really don't know enough code.  :S  But yeah, IMO, that super-bold text is ugleh.  But maybe that's just me.  Matortheeternal 17:25, 13 November 2010 (EST)

Reach-specific categories
Seeing as the Halo: Reach launch hype has come and gone, I think it would be appropriate we got rid of the Reach-specific categories such as Halo: Reach Species or Halo: Reach Characters. To my understanding, these were created for a Reach pre-launch portal page and serve no useful purpose anymore. We don't have game-specific categories for the other games either, so Reach should be no different in that regard. I wasn't involved with the Reach portal page, so I thought I'd ask for the view of someone who was behind the project. --<font color="MidnightBlue">Jugus (<font color="Gray">Talk  | <font color="Gray">Contribs ) 15:47, 23 November 2010 (EST)


 * It was Joeplay, a Wikia Staff in charge of promoting Halo: Reach through Halopedia (Halo.Wikia). I think we can remove that without referring to him. :P - <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 15:59, 23 November 2010 (EST)

Polls
I just wanted to know if their are any polls in the main page?