Talk:Frederic-104

question. I recall, that fred,kelly and joshua killed 10,000 covenant, not 60,000 but if so tell me what page they say it on.

Should They Be Merged
I was wondering why SPARTAN-104 and Frederic-104 have not been merged into the same page? From what I can see, they both say the same thing. James-001 22:56, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

The Pic
The one holding a sniper rifle is suppose to be Linda!--Master Chief Petty Officer 11:20, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I'll edit that. User: Dibol

Linda wasn't with Blue team at that time. Since Fred was the Spartans' second best sniper, that's probably him holding the sniper rifle. ~Chickenman

How can you tell it's not Linda, she was in the operation at the end of the book!Master Chief Petty Officer 10:01, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's not Linda, because that pic is from The Battle of Sigma Octanus IV, not the operation at the end of the book. During the Battle of Sigma Octanus IV, the Spartans were divided into three teams. That pic is of the Master Chief and Blue Team, which consisted of Master Chief, Fred, Kelly and James. Linda was leading green team on the other side of the city. ~Chickenman

Can you give me the evidence about the pic being the war of Sigma Octanus IV? Master Chief Petty Officer 13:29, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

The picture IS Linda! WTF? The guy on the right w/ the shotgun should be Fred! James isn't on the cover at all! -Blemo 23:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

On http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/C%C3%B4te_d%27Azur, in the caption. I've also heard it elsewhere. Plus, it's the only battle in the entire book that takes place in a city. ~Chickenman

It can be on the Planet Reach, I am not entirely sure about the battle, give me two or three days look, maybe I agree with your theoryMaster Chief Petty Officer 05:17, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * There are banshees in the image. Were they on Reach? --Dragonclaws(talk) 05:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Fine, I admit it, have it your way, then!Master Chief Petty Officer 10:26, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Not that I'm arguing with anybody, I think that the people on the cover are (from left to right) Kelly, Linda, John, and Fred. I really think James should be on the pic if he isn't already. -  Blemo   Talk   Contributions

I think they are on Onyx. The guy in the stealth armor I assume is a SPARTAN-3. That is just my opinion.

Speculation
I don't think Fred is superior to Master Chief. For example, Fred's tactics is not as good as John's, and I bet that if Master Chief is replaced by Fred, Fred could not have survive Alpha Halo and Delta Halo!--Master Chief Petty Officer 05:50, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree; could Fred survive the Flood? Either way, some of the support for Fred as a leader is that he pulled off some impossible tasks, but at the same time, so did the Master Cheif. Fred is a good leader (and my favorite Spartan), but he isn't the Master Cheif.

I removed the relevent comment. The distinction of whose rank is higher is irrelevant since they are two different rank systems and chains-of-command. Even if Fred's rank was much higher than the Chief, he still wouldn't be his commander. ElFroCampeador 23:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

If you remember their was a comment somewhere that Fred was actually better than Master Chief but didn't want the attention. Don't forget though he was as good if not better sniper and strategist than John.

They are equal, John is not better either, he relies off of luck, no real skill, whereas Fred is skill. If John had no luck, we would suckass. --Lord Lycan 23:33, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

There's just to much support for John being the better commander. User:GenralMajors

Votes

 * MERGE  guesty - persony - thingy  I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho. 23:08, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * MERGE vote added by GPT, since he --> suggested it.
 * MERGE its cool to have his name seenMaster Chief Petty Officer 03:33, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge Its just logical--Chazz 03:35, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * MERGE~Chickenman
 * MERGE - Some of the sections have identical content. It's possible an inexperienced user copied content not knowing how to make a redirect. Either way, the main content should be on the page Frederic-104 and this page a redirect page, per the new directive to have characters' names as the article name (not their designation or rank). --  Manticore  [[Image:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] TalkundefinedCSV 15:05, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge I agree they should be merged. Spartan-010:Stryker My Comm My Battles [[Image:Marine Corp SSGT.JPG|20px]] 23:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Isn't Fred sinior petty officer?
I was finally reading the first strike and i notice that fred identifies himself as senior petty officer and most of the time their team refers to him as "Chief." Whats the deal? (sorry if i ask is only that the speculation section is kind of weird, and i will read Ghost of onyx when i finish first strike Sebias 2 01:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

In the book Ghosts of Onyx Fred was promoted to Lieutenant Junior Grade. Idolo 01:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Query
Is it possible they were given M6G's instead of M6C's? M6C's are common weapons and a scoped pistol is hardly "standard issue"... --TerminalFailure 15:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Fred's Armor
Why does he have Mark VI? Or is it those upgrade things that they put in their armor when they were trapped in Castle Base?


 * He, Linda, and Will, returned to Earth to receive the Mk. VI, remember? But Kelly was kidnapped by Dr Halsey and went straight to Onyx.

Or, the Spartans could've all been upgraded with to Mark VI armor. In my opinion, that's what most likely happened. Idolo 06:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Rank
What's Fred's rank? And I don't mean Lieutenant Junior Grade. On Halo: First Strike, page 22, he identified himself as "Senior Petty Officer SPARTAN-104". As far as I'm concerned, there's no such rank. Had Eric forgotten to put in "Chief", meaning he's an SCPO? Or did it just mean he's a Petty Officer First Class?

John vs Fred
I'm removing the "controversial argument" section, since all of it is pointless speculation. Who would be the better leader? We call ourselves a wiki and leave this up for this long? -- ' Administrator  Specops306  -  Qur'a 'Morhek ''  Honour Light Your Way! ''' 08:03, 8 July 2009 (UTC)