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Covenant Species Weights
I know there isn't much room in Wikis for jokes, but here's just one to start off a long analysis. Please don't ban me. Cracked.com ran an article called 5 Things We're Making Fatter in Addition to Ourselves. And I've noticed a somewhat similar trend over the Covenant species articles with their weights. They've almost all gone up, to somewhat ridiculous levels, with the exception of Elites, who have lost about 200 lbs. and Prophets, who've stayed the same.

I don't have precise figures to quote, but from memory here is a comparison of the original species weight to the current one:

Grunts: 118 kg/260 lbs (current) vs. 110 lbs (original)

Jackals: 88 kg/195 lbs (current) vs. ~150 lbs (original)

Drones: 130 kg/280 lbs (current) vs. ~130 lbs (original)

Brutes: 680 kg/1500 lbs (current) vs. 1100 lbs (original)

Just looking at these, the Grunt and Drone figures seem ridiculous. How does a Grunt, a much shorter and smaller creature than a human, weigh in so much heavier? And the Drone would be in the obese category in human classification, yet not only is it a pretty trim-looking creature, it's a flying one.

The Jackal and Brute aren't as egregious as this, but they're still somewhat implausible figures. The Jackal is supposed to have hollow bones and it looks pretty skinny, but it's probably the most acceptable figure out of these four. Before the Elite's weight was changed from around 500 to its present of around 320 lbs, the Brute weighed 1,100. So it weighed a little more than twice as much as an Elite. Plausible. Now with the new figures, the Brute weighs 5 times as much as an Elite. Which makes little sense to me.

The source of these figures seems to be the Halo Encyclopedia, and I think the standard is to use the newest material as the main source in case of conflicts. But we've all read through/contributed to the rants about how riddled with errors the Encyclopedia is, and I think I can see the source of the error in some of these cases.

The've mixed up kilograms with pounds.

It makes very strong sense for the Grunt and the Drone especially, because those kilogram figures are almost the same as the old pound figures. The Jackal would be a little bit on the anorexic side if it were only 88 pounds, so in that case the 195 lb. figure should probably be more correct. The Brute was always a heavyweight, but consider, if it were 680 pounds it would weigh a little more than twice as much as the old Elite did, the same that it used to be when the Elite was 500.

My proposal is to change the weights of the Grunt, Drone, and possibly the Brute so that it's the same number in pounds that it is now in kilograms. If it's unacceptable to consider correcting typos/errors in the Halo Encyclopedia like that, then my proposal is to find the more accurate-sounding numbers in the old sources, and replace the current ones with those. Flayer92 01:33, July 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * The Unggoy are 5 foot 6 inches. The Yanme'e are 5 foot 10 inches and the Kig-yar are 6 foot 8 inches. Just wanted to let you know in case you didn't notice yet. ;) --Invincibilityhud.svg Ultra Force  17:32, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Source formatting
I suggest we change formatting of sources for books and games because I think it looks a bit more precise. And here are my suggestions for my proposal: And as an example: If you want to source a quote from page of Halo Encyclopedia as an example:
 * 1) Books:, or if you want to link right to the book:
 * 2) Games:  ("Quote (optional)"), or if you want to link right to the game:

And for something like a section from a level in Halo 3:

setting, so they don't function properly and are near-unusable. Problem affects Firefox 3.6.3 Portable and possibly higher versions as well. Have not tested on other browsers -- can't at this time.

Simple fix that you guys could implement for Halopedia specifically:
 * 1) navigation div.sub-menu.widget{position:absolute}

The problem stems from some (useless) CSS meant for browsers with JavaScript turned off; the CSS sets submenus to. It seems to have been intended to make the menus usable with JS off. It has absolutely no useful effect, however, because the submenus don't even exist on the page when JS is off. (As part of Wikia's dreadful menu system, the menus are created dynamically, with their contents retrieved via AJAX.) This CSS, then, has no point; it may be safely overriden without further disadvantaging JS-less browsers.

So you can implement the fix listed above and solve the menu issue for Halopedia specifically, or you can wait for Wikia to fix the problem. Alternatively, if anyone here is friends with a Wikia staffer, you can pass the fix onto them and see what they can do for Wikia as a whole.

By the way, I've been away for a while. Love what you guys've done with the place.  DavidJCobb  22:24, September 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Added and done. Haven't encountered anyone having the problem so far. Anyway, don't be too happy. A new skin is coming out soon and will replace Monaco. Keep a look out for bugs. :) -  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 22:29, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

i think that's bogus
Personally, i think that the covenant soldiers have stayed in shape. in halo 3 they were almost all skinny. and if they do look fat, that is just their large amount of armor.