Talk:Promethean

Promethean similarities to Spartans
Where the prometheans the same as spartans? Because they seen to act as super soldiers but the book doesn't really gives a specification about it


 * Not likely they were forerunner warrior servants and the two were separated by thousands of years#@lof@n1234 23:21, 2 February 2011 (EST)

Nope, totally different. SPARTANS are humans augmented by cybernetics and whatnot, Prometheans are Forerunners (which have been extinct for millenia)SPARTAN-347 00:48, 3 February 2011 (EST)

I think he meant are they analogous, in which case I still don't think so. Spartans are a group of elite supersoldiers. Prometheans are more akin to godlike generals, revered by the Forerunner people and with almost supreme authority. I doubt you could find a Spartan leading vast fleets and legions. --  Specops306   Autocrat     Qur'a 'Morhek   05:02, 3 February 2011 (EST)

Promethean height and weight
I don't recall in Cryptum, a promethean's height or weight ever being given. Although it is safe to assume that the didact was quite a bit larger than born's father who stood over 13 feet tall. The reason being that when born's father was described, his height was defined as being tall but not to the extent that it was worth mentioning extensively as was didact. Throughout the novel, the didact was described as being massive, his legs were compared to tree trunks in size, the fact that he was described as being slightly taller than other prometheans (as the war sphinxes were described as being able to accommodate a promethean slightly smaller than didact), the list goes on. Although he is clearly larger than born's father, there was never an instance where his height, or any promethean's height was given, including the confirmer. Where did 4 meters come from? That is born's father's height.

Their weight too, where did 800-1000 KG come from? Prometheans were understandably very heavy, but i don't recall their weight( or weight range for that matter) ever being given. Although in the novel, born stated during the rejuvenation process that were didact at full health, born wouldn't even be able to lift his arm up. This, along with the fact that the didact, and perhaps all prometheans were able to crush a human skull with just their bare hand implies that they were by far the most massive forerunners known. My own estimates put them around 14-15 ft in height, and anywhere from 3000 to 4500 lbs of pure ultra-dense muscle.

However, until the exact physical description of a promethean is given, i think we should just list them as being the most massive forerunners in terms of height and weight.

Prometheans and Prometheus
Is it possible - pure conjecture here - that a single Promethean came to Earth and became known as Prometheus? I find that we have increasing parallels between the Halo universe and Greek Mythology. Ocean Soul 00:23, 25 August 2011 (EDT)


 * That seems unlikely, as "Promethean" is merely a translation of their actual name. --Courage never dies. 22:37, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
 * What if this was the origin of the translation of "Promethean"? For instance, this "Promethean's" name could have been Prometheus.Ocean Soul 22:41, 29 August 2011 (EDT)


 * You've made a good point. It actually isn't as unlikely as I'd thought. Prometheus means "forethought"; even if Prometheus wasn't literally the name of a particular Forerunner, this translation could reference how ancient and wise the Prometheans were among other Forerunners. Perhaps the legend of Prometheus was the result of an incompletely recollected geas. I hope later media strengthen these connections between Greek mythology and the Forerunners' and humanity's shared history, or at least allude to them. --Courage never dies. 22:57, 29 August 2011 (EDT)


 * Well, apparently it's closer than previously thought. The author of the Forerunner Saga has said that the Greek Spartans are descended from Chakas, and that the Spartan II's are descended from the Greek Spartans. This is apparently what Halsey was looking for in candidates.Ocean Soul 02:15, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Organic?
Are Prometheans organic beings? They look like robots, but the article makes them seem like they are Forerunners themselves. Bioniclepluslotr 22:05, 20 July 2012 (EDT)
 * What we fight are Promethean Knights, not actual Forerunner Prometheans. Cortana remarked in the E3 showing when a Knight is encountered "Whatever it is it's definitely NOT organic!" So no, they're constructs. The actual warrior class, however, are organic.Ocean Soul 22:10, 20 July 2012 (EDT)

Background
The Background references both the original Promethean warrior class and the artificial Promethean constructs which appear in Halo 4 (of which we know very little about at this stage). Shouldn't they be separated out?--Retriokillswitch 18:32, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
 * No. They are already sorted as Promethean units (constructs) from actual Promethean warriors in the article. I think its fine the way it is.-- Killamint  [Comm |Files ] 20:20, 18 September 2012 (EDT)
 * I consider the "mechanical" word should be taken away. Wolfkill said clearly "they are not robots". Some other term should be used until we know what they are, like "unknown variant". Siul S-249 18:24, 23 October 2012 (EDT)

The Didact
In the "History" section, it mentioned that Cortana and John killed the Didact. Is this absolutely confirmed that he's dead? I don't feel like it should be worded quite so until we know for sure.--Ocean Soul 02:12, 12 November 2012 (EST)


 * Agreed. The Didact tumbles into the Composer's beam - given the purpose of the Composer, I think it's ambiguous whether the Didact survived or not. And honestly, I think he has huge potential to be a great villain in the future still. --  Qura 'Morhek   The Autocrat     of Morheka   06:37, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Current Status
So, what do you think the current status of the Prometheans is, are they all dead, or did they travel with the Covenant?--216.107.172.150 02:42, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

Actual prometheans?
So I understand that the composer turned organic prometheans into the Mechanical ones we see in Halo 4 but are watchers and crawlers actual prometeans or just AIs? 69.174.161.227 04:37, 30 April 2013 (EDT)


 * It hasn't been adressed by any official sources, but I'm operating under the assumption that if it vaporises itself, it uses a composed mind. Since neither the watchers or crawlers do this, I don't think they have one. This is just a theory, however. Always use the DMR. This is craZboy557, signing off. 06:46, 30 April 2013 (EDT)

New Page
Is it past time we created a distinct page for mechanical Promethean constructs?

You mean like the page that is already in exists? Alertfiend - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. (Converse) 21:24, 24 July 2016 (EDT)

That's the page for Knights. Knights, soldiers, crawlers, watchers, and even the Warden are all referred to as Prometheans collectively. -Japeth555

Image Request from Mythos
Is anyone capable of getting the Forerunner Rate images from Mythos pages 28 and 29? It's the same with the War Sphinx 136/7 Thanks in advance. Primordial (talk) 19:59, 30 June 2017 (EDT)