Talk:Kerel-pattern assault carrier


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Its an Assault Carrier but FlagShip?
We've established that is an Assault Carrier, click here for the full discussion, but below are the highlights:


 * In this Image HBO does calls it an Assault Carrier -- Esemono
 * 1) "Registering all hostile vessels inside the kill zone. Thirteen cruisers, two assault carriers. I'm going loud!"

- Cortana in the First Battle of Earth
 * the above quote was provided by RelentlessRecusant

Now is it a flagship?


 * 1) The flagship is two kilometers long and from Stephen Loftus's work on HBO, the assault carrier is something like five kilometers long. Cheers,  Relentless  Recusant [[Image:Jedi_Order.jpg|20px]]
 * [cough]three kilometers, not two[/cough]--Rot 1535 9.12.06

Ascendant Justice should be removed from this page!

 * Well, I don't think the Ascendant Justice is an Assault Carrier for that matter anyway. The Ascendant Justice is 3000m long and is bulbous like a covenant destroyer, whereas the Assault Carrier we see in Halo 2 is supposed to be somewhere around 5000m long and isn't bulbous, more round and flat.--Rot 1853 7.12.06
 * I believe it was mentioned as such in the FS but I don't have the book with me. The Ascendant Justice was listed in this article when it was migrated and as such I am unable to tell who first stated that the Ascendant Justice was a Covenant Assault Carrier.  Although Admin Dragonclaws seems to have written it. -- Esemono 03:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Halo: First Strike only refers to the Ascendant Justice as a flagship, and makes a reference that it is a carrier. However, Carrier and Assault Carrier may well be seperate ships, as Assault Carrier might be a larger version of Carrier, similar to the Supercarrier. However, all of that is also speculation, so for now I would say that we cannot say with 100% surity (is that a word? better than sureness I suppose) that the Ascendant Justice is of the Assault Carrier variety, so it should be removed from the article.--Rot 2147 7.12.06
 * I've grown tired of waiting for resistance, so I've changed the page to fit with what I believe to be fact. If you disagree, post here and if you so strongly disagree that you believe what I have done is heresy, put a FactOrFiction thingy up or restore the page or something.--Rot 1305 9.12.06
 * Wholly shoot first and ask questions later -- Esemono 02:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The difference is that I am changing things that I have reveiwed the books for several times, double and triple checked, and then seen little proof here against it. I am not saying "Well, I can't think of anything off the top of my head, I'll go change the article". If anyone has proof that the Ascendant Justice is an Assault Carrier, and I mean proof, not assumption, then hell, I'm wrong in editing the page. However, I don't see anything surfacing until either Bungie tells us one way or the other, or another novel is released.--Rotaretilbo 04:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Ascendant Justice
Ascendant Jusitce is not 2 kilometers ffor it is actualy 3. Second, like I said in my article assualt carriers/ flagships if you look at an assault carrier from lateral side view you will notice 3 flat bublous sections. The first is that weird hook shaped nose, the second contains the pinch fusion reactor, and the third conatins the engines. Plus, whoever wrote that the assault carrier was flat, I just wanted to tell you that in halo first strike it mentioned that the ascendant justice's bublous section were flaat on page 45 it says "relativiley flat from top to bottom. -- User:Halo3 00:35, 10 December 2006
 * Check this out: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Real_Sizes_in_the_Halo_Universe --Rot 2033 9.12.06

Halo 3
What page in Halo First Strike does it refer the flagship ,ascendant justice, to be a carrier. -- User:Halo3 21:22, 11 December 2006
 * I don't know if it blatently refers to the ''Ascendant Justice as a carrier, but it makes vague implications to it. I am far too lazy to reread Halo: First Strike in search of a page number.--Rotaretilbo 02:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Halo 3
I don't really think H.B.O is the best place to look for assault carrier information and also that article about the true sizes of objects are calculations and theorizing, not cold hard 100% facts. -- User:Halo3 21:24, 11 December 2006
 * Did you read the article? He used the models from the game, loaded them into a 3D modeller, tested for accuracy (on John-117), and then began using this method to gather info.--Rotaretilbo 02:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC)