Talk:ORION Project

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What dose it mean when it say's that they tried to creat there own army who did the spartan one's or there chirldren i dont get it. please can some one expand tar User:Kami-Sama

It was the children of the spartan I's otherwise known as Spartan I.I's. AJ 04:22, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Link Once
This article has several repeat links (Spartans is linked 3 times) but given the way it's written and the "see also" section, I'm not sure which ones to get rid of. If there's a "See also" section, do the links there take priority over ones in the article?The makuta 13:15, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Washouts
it said that the Washouts from Orion were used as Drill Instructors for Beta company which in GOO it says that washouts from the first class of S-III (Alpha)

Well, I interpreted it as the washouts from Alpha Company, the group of Spartans right before them - not all of them could be Spartans, remember? ONI wouldnt exactly let them go home, could they? So they were retasked as Drill Instructors.  Kora ‘Morhek   The Battle-Net  My Conquests.  19:23, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Contact Harvest
Updated information confirming AJ's activity with ORION. I hope I've helped more than I've hurt. The links to KALEDIOSCOPE and TREBUCHET need to be fixed. Source needs to be added. The source was page 47 of Halo: Contact Harvest. I pretty much didn't want to attempt it due to fear of making it worse, but hopefully it'll make it easer for others. 70.161.207.127 03:27, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Byrne
I believe it should be included that Byrne as a possible past candidate as a SPARTAN 1, evidence of this is thrown throughout Contact Harvest, one of which being the fact that he was able to take down Avery in a fist to fist fight in one of the earlier chapters of the book (if its true that Avery was a spartan one then (judging from John's first fight with an ODST, the blows Avery dealt him would most likely have killed him, as well as the fact that he would never have been able to hold Avery down the way he did.

Re: Byrne
Well he did kick Avery between the legs. There's also the fact that SPARTAN-Is aren't as enhanced as SPARTAN-IIs, that's why the program ended. They needed to rinse out some of the mistakes for 20 years.

Canon Status
I'm a person who often comes to this site for information, but this is just weird. Bungie Staff heads have reported many times that they reported that "I Love Bees is nice, but treat it as such, it isn't canon" (Joseph Staten, Writing Director). I don't want to sound like an ass, that's not my intention, but should you guys treat this information as canon? 4:26, 10 March 2008


 * It's canon. As the HGN is canon, and the Orion Project is mentioned. -- Sgt. johnson  00:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It's also mentioned in The Flood and Contact Harvest. --Dragonc laws (talk ) 16:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

ORION image
The picture that's been used for the ORION project is the avatar I made, and is unfortunately a bit low resolution, and I tinkered with colour and such. If it's preferable, I have a higher resolution image of the original which I can upload. If the one that is there is okay then I'll leave it, but it isn't exactly accurate! Diaboy 17:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Old Marines... Old Spartans?
If Project Orion is also known as the Spartan I's, then, is it possible that Sargent Johnson, Sargent Nolan Byrne, Sargent Forge are Spartan I's?

There is no way that Forge could have killed that Arbiter any other way.

Let me know how you feel!

Thank you,

GeneralMajors

Johnson is one, but Byrne is in debate. Brigadier   Comm|    Mission|    Papers|    Commendations|   UserWiki:Spirit-of-HALO| H.Q. ]] 23:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Pg 86 of Halo: Contact Harvest "They taught you to be a killer, Avery. They taught us both" that says to me if no-one else that they were both in the same unit-ORION. Therefore i think Spartan Is Molotovsniper 11:09, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

John Forge
Not sure if this was discussed, but I think John Forge from Halo Wars must have been a Spartan 1. He had to be, as Elites are incredibly strong, and a regular human probably would have not been able to tackle him like that.--Maslab 04:57, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry to break it to you, but Forge was born 10 years after the Spartan -I- project took place, but it is possible he is a Spartan 1,1. Baryon15 20:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No, he isn't, to both statements. If you are Forge's size and can't use your momentum to bring down an Elite if you tackle him, you're pretty weak. Not everyone is a Spartan. Smoke  22:15, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Now you're just stating the obvious. -- Lord Hyren 00:30, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Smoke and Shadow seems to confirm Forge was a 1.1, he enlists at 16 and is seen as "exceptional" and his father is stated to have died from Boren's syndrome 68.110.160.37 06:58, 13 December 2018 (EST)


 * I'll admit it heavily implies it, but that's it: it implies. Much as I would like to, we can't make factual statements based on implications.--D9328 (talk) 09:57, 13 December 2018 (EST)d9328

Armor
just wondering, it mentioned they wore visors during the failed sniping op where byrne got injured, so, did they wear ODST armor or pilot armor?


 * It's said Avery wore "charcoal fatigues and matte-black impact plating that bulwarked everything vital from his neck to his knees". It's also mentioned that he had shirtsleeves, leather gloves and a fully encased helmet with a visor. Sounds somewhat like the ODST armor but it's likely a heavy version of the Marine BDU since the ODST armor is completely sealed and has a vacuum-enhanced body suit instead of fatigues under it. --Jugus (Talk  | Contribs ) 11:43, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

ORION detachment, not ORION Project......
The unit is called ORION detachment or simply ORION and this is explained in Contact Harvest. The recruiter that finds Johnson and looks into his records see that it is called ORION and the ONI agent says to Johnson "Team Leader, ORION detachment, NavSpecWar division?".

Also, the epilogue in Contact Harvest where they attack the insurrectionist bombers is not an ORION mission. It appears to be an ODST mission given the gear and weapons and that it was a battalion sized element, but most importantly, the mission was in 2524, long after ORION disbanded. The ORION detachment was a small unit with select personnel, not just Marines, so my feeling is that Johnson (and maybe even Byrnes) were released back into the Marine Corps after ORION folded and were members of one of the ODST units during Operation TREBUCHET.

Remember, the UNSC conducted larger operations because the insurrection became more efficent and that is why ORION was disbanded and the marines were sent in, including CPT Ponder's marine unit. The truth is that the program was never disbanded, but secretly enhanced with the SPARTAN II'S.

I really wish they would make a new book based solely on the ORION detachment and Johnson's time there. Would be a very good read.

status of SPARTAN-1s
should we put the status of each Spartan 1's like the Spartan 2 and 3's?  ŖЁĠÍ§Ť3ŔΣĎ ₵ΘИ†®|฿ŪŢÖṜ  Hi   05:05, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

Contradiction
In the article, it says that the number of SPARTAN-Is were raised to 300 in response to Operation: TREBUCHET, which began in 2513. But in the following section, it stated that ORION was decommissioned in 2506. Can someone clarify? Sona 10:59, 18 November 2011 (EST)

Unnecessary trivia

 * In the real world, Project Orion was a spacecraft program was the first engineering design study of spacecraft powered by nuclear pulse propulsion. Its supporters felt that it had great potential for space travel, but it lost political approval because of concerns with fallout from its propulsion. The Partial Test Ban Treaty of 1963 is generally acknowledged to have ended the project.

Besides both projects meeting unsatisfying results and their name, there's nothing at all related between the two.


 * Agreed, and removed. --  Qura 'Morhek   The Autocrat     of Morheka   21:58, 17 August 2014 (EDT)

Name
Since this is retroactively known as the "SPARTAN-I" program; the augmentation projects of the IIs, IIIs, and IVs, are known as projects ASTER, CHRYSANTHEMUM, ORCHID respectively; then shouldnt this be the "SPARTAN-I program", with its augmentation project known as "Project ORION"?TheNuclearSoldier (talk) 00:57, April 26, 2021 (EDT)