Talk:M41 SSR MAV/AW Rocket Launcher/Archive

File:Rocketlauncher.jpg|thumb|It does say clearly M41 SSR SPNKr]] File:AW-Rocket-Launcher.jpg|thumb|It does say clearly M41 SSR SPNKr]]

Change Name!
If you zoom in and look at a Rocket Launcher it says "M41 SSV MAV/AW" or something like that. And I believe it is only the type of rockets not the rocket launcher itself that is termed "SPNKr". Any thoughts on these? --Justin Time 23:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Where is this Rocket launcher stash found?? And what does SPNKr stand for? I think it says somewhere in the books. -- 74.99.165.144 00:28, 21 December 2006


 * That stash is found on Halo: Combat Evolved on the last level, in the armoury just before you enter the engine room. And it does say "M41 SSV MAV/AW" someone should change that because in the Halo 2 official Guide it says it's an M41 SSV MAV/AW, i think an M19 SSM Rocket Launcher is a different model. -- User:Joshua 029 15:32, 28 January 2007

Main Points

 * M41 SSV MAV/AW - In the Halo 2: The Official Game Guide it says it's an M41 SSV MAV/AW-- User:Joshua 029 15:32, 28 January 2007
 * M19 SSR Rocket Launcher - In the Halo: Combat Evolved (PC port) manual, it's clearly called the M19 SSR Rocket Launcher. -- RR 01:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * M41 SSR SPNKr MAV/AW - In the pictures it shows M41 SSR MAV/AW and SPNKr on the actual tubes -- Esemono 04:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Votes for Change

 * RENAME - Someone had better change the title of this article, it is called the M41 SSR MAV/AW Rocket Launcher. -- User:Joshua 029 16:14, 28 January 2007


 * Against - In the Halo: Combat Evolved (PC port) manual, it's clearly called the M19 SSR Rocket Launcher. Oh...wait...it's SSR...ahh...but there's no M41 designation...I think that's the M12 Warthog LRV's LAAG. Cheers,  Relentless Recusant File:BR_Firing.gif|25px]]File:BR_Firing2.gif|25px]]File:MA5C Firing.gif|25px]] 01:20, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 * rename I think they're separate weapons. i mean, lets face it, the UNSC is going to try different things - the new rocket launchers provide advantages the old ones don't. but it is confusing, when different sources refer to the same weapon with different names. -- User:Specops306 00:42, 2 February 2007


 * Rename - I think they are two different variants of the rocket launcher, there's obviously other types. Unless Bungie was just trying out new names for it. User:Joshua 029 15:17, 4 February 2007


 * Against I to believe it is two diffrent models of the Jackhammer--Chazz 15:21, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Rename It may be an error by Bungie...but even on the rocket launcher itself on Halo 1 it clearly says M41 SSR MAV/AW.-- Joshua 029 14:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

1 thing i dont get, if the Halo2 RL (they stand 4 weapons) is better than the Halo:CE RL, how come its only got a makimum of 6 in Ammo or somat? Was it to even down types? like making the SR stronger, but getting rid of Night vision. - Forerunner
 * Rename It could be a misspelling from bungie.

Name confusion
Why is it called a surface-to-surface Misile if right after that it says Rocket Launcher? Shouldn't it be SSR(Surface-to-surface Rocket) like the M41 in Halo 3? Could anybody tell me why or how its a missile launcher if it shoots 120mm HEAT Rockets???? -- EliteSpartan 10:08 August 7 2007

Never mind. I looked it up in the original Halo CE manual and it says SSM ( still don't understand why its called a missile rocket launcher but oh well its official). --EliteSpartan 8:43PM August 14 2007

It should be noted that Halo 2 Vista manual states that the Halo 2's rocket laucnher is M41 SSR MAV/AW

This is one of the reasons I think that the rocket launcher pages should be merged. The HUD dialogue and some of the manuals state Halo 1 and Halo 2's launchers as the M19 SSM, but all of the models have 'M41 SSR' written on them, and the Halo 2 Vista manual, as mentioned above, states it as being called the M41 SSR. Other than this, there is virtually no difference in any of the weapons; the main difference is the lock-on feature in Halo 2, but that could be put down to specialist ammunition.

Diaboy 11:43, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Delete
Guys, I don't see a reason why we have speculation on Halopedia, H:NOT states that Halopedia is not a speculative forum, I try deleting it but the edit was reverted. Master Chief Petty Officer Spartan Contribution 12:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Speculation about M19
It has been speculated that the M19 has actually been the M41 Rocket Launcher throughout the whole series. This is inspired by the fact that "M41 MAV/AW" has been written on every Rocket Launcher since Halo 1, and the rockets are called "M19 Surface to Surface Rockets (sometimes missiles)", leading to speculation that its name in the manuals of the first two games just implied that it was a launcher of M19 SSM rockets.

It is also quite possible that SPNKr is actually the company that makes the "M41 MAV/AW Rocket Launcher". '''Note:The above is an archive of the deleted speculation content. Do not remove it'''

Lock-on feature
does it auto lock or id there a button that needs to be pressed.68.230.163.203 08:53, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm guessing there's a button, or an extra trigger of some sort. Because in Halo 2 you have the choice to lock on or not. If you don't want to lock on, you don't have to.

After zooming in on your vehicle target let go of the stick and then hold it down untill the weapon locks on. The game does tell you how to do it on Outskirts (campaign level). This can also be used to take out stationary turrets.70.44.240.129 01:37, August 15, 2010 (UTC)Index3769

Answer
To answer your uh, sentence masterchiefpettyofficer, it clearly states on the main page, "the definitive source for Halo information". That means weapons too. If we're talking speculation, well there's almost no other way to do it except to somehow get bungie to say something about it.

Possiable meaning of SPNKr
Could SPNKr mean (other than the Spanker nick-name) Special Purpose Non-Kinetic rocket or Special Purpose Non-Kinetic rocket launcher? just a though...

- A Lone Deadly Wolf

Weapons in Halo - Sources
It seems to me that as many details as possible that should be referenced from canon. Otherwise, details should be taken from current knowledge. Speculation is NOT valid information. That is to say, follow that canon rules for everything referencing other in-universe events. However, if something (shaped charges, rocket propulsion, armor piercing, etc.) is not explained canonically, it is acceptable to use present-day explanations. -- Nutarama 18:46, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Page move
How have these pages not been merged yet. the only argument I have seen is that one manual said that it was called this in Halo 1. We all know how inaccurate the game manuals have been (Carbine in Halo 3 with 36 round magazine, Halo 3 needler with 30 rounds, Halo 3 pistol[M6G] with 12 rounds.) with all of those inaccuracies and the fact that all the Rocket Launchers have exactly the same name spelled out in front of us, I find it shocking that this hasn't been moved and merged to the article with the correct name. I move that we have a vote for the transplantation of this information into the correct article and this one should be a redirect page. Any thoughts Guardians-117 22:06, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * What are you suggesting?-  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 22:08, January 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it should be obvious to everyone here that the rocket launcher's name is right on its side and has always been there. So we should condense and move this information into the M41 article since this launcher is the M41. The manual just got its name wrong.
 * Alright, I've looked up in the archives and I would suggest you read this. Just to summarise, the article stays as M19 unless Bungie states it is really the same rocket launcher.-  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 23:40, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I read that and I didn't see anything like that. It just seemed like they stopped talking about it without making a decision. Guardians-117 00:30, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * The notion of silence within that discussion indicates that they agreed that the two weapons are different. This is supported with the HCE and H2 Game Manuals which list their version of the Rocket Launcher as the M19 while the H3 Game Manual list the its version of the Rocket Launcher as the M41. However, if you insist that these "mistakes" should be ignored, I would suggest asking Bungie for verification. As of now, this article stays.-  5 əb'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 00:34, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay Guardians-117 00:36, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is an old discussion but I'm just coming across it now. To clarify, due to the mistaken identity of calling the M41 the M19 in at least one source, I made sure it was recognized and made clear in the Halo Visual Guide that M41 referred to the launcher and M19 was relegated to the ammo it fired, and not a launcher in its own right, just to settle any future queries. -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 21:38, 9 December 2015 (EST)

Page move again
The RL in Reach is still the M41 so I seriously think we can assume that the name on the side of this launcher is its name. This RL is also the M41. Its name is on its side. In Reach the launcher is also the M41. The manual were wrong and we need to trust our eyes. Move this info to the M41 page, seriously it so obvious. Guardians-117 02:52, April 6, 2010 (UTC)

Also it has been confirmed by the new Visual Guide just released that they are the same Rocket Launcher. A merger is needed ASAP. ArchedThunder