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2700th! w00t!
Dear CommanderTony,

Great job! You've written our 2700th article...Halo: Uprising Issue 2. :-)

And remember... is for featured articles, not N/A. If you've appended it to your latest articles, please remove it. ;-)

Oh, and shall I archive your talk page for ya? :-)

Cheer,s

Relen tless Recu sant 'o the Halopedia Team http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/a/ac/Fleet_Admiral.jpg TALK • SPEAK 19:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Cheers,

Relen tless Recu sant 'o the Halopedia Team http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/a/ac/Fleet_Admiral.jpg TALK • SPEAK 21:42, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * It was sincere, man...you've done extremely well with all the latest H3 articles! :-) Cheers, Relen tless <font color="#808080">Recu <font color="#000000">sant 'o the Halopedia Team http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/a/ac/Fleet_Admiral.jpg <font color="#A9A9A9">TALK • <font color="A9A9A9">SPEAK 21:56, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Rawr - Brute Chopper
Dear CommanderTony,

Heylo! :-)

Yeah...I was speaking to GPT about the Type-25 RAV, and we both sorta agree that the two images were kinda beneficial...I don't think that they hurt. ;-)

I'll be reverting it back, but if you have a reason to remove both images, just lemme know.

Au revoir, and thanks so much!

Cheers,

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Link to vid
Hey Tony! It's Elitekilla247. You wanted the link to the video? Well, here it is:

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=lovebungie

Go to the very bottom of this page and right click on "brute chopper" and save as. All it is really is a render taken in the development room and you can drag the picture to see the surroundings, hence how I found the banshee (to tell you the truth, I didn't find the phantom, but I did find the banshee.) You will need Quicktime.

See ya!

-Elitekilla247

Hey!!
I saw you wrote in my page. Cool. Oh, and sorry, I can't send you the B.net vids 'cause my stupid computer doesn't save them, just as yours. DeadGhost - A HERO MUST RISE. BELIEVE. SEPTEMBER, 25th

xbl
Hey, that was fun playing xbl with you, and i wanted to tell you your still welcomed to join Lima Company.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 00:36, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, sounds good, but we mostly have games playing aginst each other, maybe with a few more people.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 00:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Thats the first thing i'll do next time i get on.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 00:52, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah that looks cool, is that what its really ganna look like?-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 01:02, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

You got a good point.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 01:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I liked it, i liked it alot. Its times like this i wish i had a 360 so i can get it.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 01:22, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

!!!, wow i want one!! Email it to me please lol. haha -- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 01:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

SWEET, its like 1/4th of my dream come true!-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 01:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

the last 3/4 would involve me havin a 360.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 01:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

!!!
Glad to have you abored.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 20:16, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

If i can.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 20:31, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I dont know.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 20:44, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

M19 SSM Poll
Hey! Please check out User:Spartan781/Project. I need your vote. Read the instructions there before voting. Thanks! --<font color="#D3D3D3">Sp <font color="#A9A9A9">art <font color="#808080">an7 <font color="#000000">81  CommCSV 07:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Important!
Please go to User:Spartan781/Project. I NEED your vote there. Read the instructions, and vote. Thanks. --<font color="#D3D3D3">Sp <font color="#A9A9A9">art <font color="#808080">an7 <font color="#000000">81  CommCSV 09:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Ya
Thanks, you might want these:

-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

When ever i can play i'll let you know.

Re. Compliment
Thanks for the compliment, it's nice to be recognised. I have to say likewise to your own contributions and articles. Impressive stuff. Thanks once again, A Monument to All Your Sins 21:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

M19 SSM Poll
Er..about the launcher thing, the one from halo 1 actually states M41 on its side. They (Halo 1,2,3)actually fire pretty much the same, and they LOOK THE SAME(that's why the M19 page has a picture of the launcher from halo 2). The designation is the same. If you say that the halo 1 version is M19, then why did Bungie print M41 on its side? I found that the halo 2 manual mentions the halo 2 launcher as M19, but the halo 2 piggyback guide lists it as M41. On the Bungie forums, there is a mixup of names. Look at this forum:. BobBQ actually says what I think. also look here:  The official designation is M41, while the name is M19(that's what they say). --<font color="#D3D3D3">Sp <font color="#A9A9A9">art <font color="#808080">an7 <font color="#000000">81  CommCSV 10:13, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Rocket Launcher Debate
Dear Tony, Wasn't sure if you had read this evidence for yet so I've sent it to you. Ok, here we go. The Rocket Launcher wielded in Halo Combat Evolved according to the game manual was the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" so this name is Bungie approved. However the in game weapon model clearly shows the marking "M41 MAV/AW" printed above the "correct usage" diagram. This is the source of the naming problem.

In Halo 2 the Rocket Launcher was altered, this we agree on, the main alteration being the new lock on ability. In the both versions of the Halo 2 manual this weapon is once again designated the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" and likewise the weapon model again bears the "M41 MAV/AW" marking.

On Halo3.com the Rocket Launcher is reffered to only as the "M41 Rocket Launcher" and from the public Beta it appears to be the same variation as that in Combat Evolved. This version has no acronyms after it which has caused many to view it as a new Rocket Launcher type. All of these sources are directly from Bungie.

So the "M41 MAV/AW" section of the name could be the model number of the Rocket Launcher, an overall designation for that class of weapon. Since both homing and non-homing versions of the rocket launcher, from Halo 2 and Halo: Combat Evolved respectively, are called the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" perhaps it should all be one section.

But what of the acronyms, what do they mean? Do they help in this debate? Using the website and their military acronym list. The SSM part of "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" probably refers to it's nature as a Surface-to-Surface-Missile launcher. As for "M41 MAV/AW" could represent Minimum Acceptable Value/Automatic Weapon which would coincide with the launchers nature as a slow firing, automatic weapon (the automated rotation of the missile tubes into firing position).

Since the M41 section is printed on the launcher for the rocket tubes, is it not possible that this is the designation for the launcher? But once the tubes and launcher are combined into an actual offensive weapon it is known as the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher". Just food for thought.

I am of the conclusion that the M41 and the M19 are infact two designations for the same weapon. As such only one page should exist, or atleast a disambiguation page named "M41 MAV/AW" with a subheading dealing with the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" and the homing/non homing variations.

We should take the game manuals to be gospel in this case. Both the Halo and Halo 2 Rocket Launchers are listed as the "M19 SSM Rocket Launcher" in these manuals. Other than in a third-party guidebook (and therefore non-direct Bungie source) this has been the case throughout. At least we should stop referring to the M41 as the Halo 2 Rocket launcher. Since we do not have a copy of Halo 3, by all means leave the Halo 3 Rocket Launcher name as undecided, perhaps it should be placed in its own category as a subheading in the "M19 SSM" Section.

I apologise for the length of this. :-) Please respond, thanks.

In Return
Nice Friend userbox, If you want, I can make a template for it. I looked over your userpage too, I also like the M1 Garand(do you know it was 10 pounds when fully loaded?)and SCAR as well. You play Ghost Recon? When I play, I always use the 7.62 varient of the SCAR(It has been a while and I forget the name i.e. LG, R etc) I always have liked heavy cal weapons. My favorite is the Barret M107 .50 cal Heavy. If you want, We could have a chat about weapons. Oh and here, choose the one you like. -- <font color="#D3D3D3">WR <font color="#A9A9A9">A <font color="#808080">IT <font color="#000000">H  COMM   CONTRIBS  19:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Template
You lucky son of a *****, It is my birthday today, and I don't have an M1! where the hell would you get one!?!? Please tell so I can order/buy one. anyways use this when you put your friend userbox on someones page. turns into this --> -- <font color="#D3D3D3">WR <font color="#A9A9A9">A <font color="#808080">IT <font color="#000000">H  COMM   CONTRIBS  20:27, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

UoH
Hey, we might be having a new thing happening with the UoH, and you have been made a captain for what we might be doing. Congrats Captain.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 23:37, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

UoH captain
Well we had lack of officers and plus you do lots of good, we are making 4 companies out of the members of the UoH and we now have 4 captains, we havent named any except of A-D as place holders. So you have 1 company with currently 50 people and your XO is First Lieutenant Forgottenlord and each of the 4 comanding officers of the UoH (1 Gen. + 3 Cols. ) kinda watchs over 1 of the companies incase they need anything or something like that and i got your company. So you'll be needing to pick a name for your company of UoH members.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 14:00, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok i'll sort out everyone who is in your company on my computer later, You should say hi or something to Forgottenlord, he is your XO after all.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 19:07, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Rocket Launcher Debate
Hi Tony, Just wondering how you can justify being against the merge of the M19/M41 articles based on asthetics? Every returning weapon from Halo:CE got some kind of overhall, either asthetically or functionally or sometimes both. Why is it then, that only the Rocket Launcher becomes a new weapon? We have provided multiple BUNGIE sources that indicate directly that the Halo 2 rocket launcher is the 'M19'. How can this not be proof enough? I implore you to rethink your decision based on the existing and new evidence on the project page. Sorry if that sounded like a rant, it wasn't meant to ;-) Best regards-- A Monument to All Your Sins 19:13, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

You got promoted, congrats! :-D

As for the rocket launchers, thus far the Halo:CE and Halo 2 have been confirmed by Bungie to be the 'M19'. Regardless of tracking ability this should place them on the same article. What about if the Halo:CE one were the M19 MkI and the Halo 2 one were the M19 MkII, similar to the difference between the two shotguns on that article. That would separate the two, making them variants of the same weapon. As for the Halo 3 launcher, I'm in total agreement with you. It should be listed as an 'M41' rocket launcher. My point is that the Halo 2 one should not. Does that compromise seem fair to you? Sway you? Maybe just a little? ;-) --A Monument to All Your Sins 19:25, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Well I'm a Staff Sergeant at the UNSC, if you could do with one of those I'm happy to sign up for Yankee company (Salutes).

P.S could you change your vote then please, we could do with the support. --A Monument to All Your Sins 19:39, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the assist. Much appreciated.

"D" Company
Dear CommanderTony,

Glad to see you again. :-)

Anyways, the command staff peeps thought that companies should be named after their designator..."Delta" or something like that might work a bit better. :-) Captain Manticore, the Operations Officer of your rival "C" Company, cleverly named his company "Chimaera", which corresponds to his username. ;-)

Hope to chat with you later, man!

Cheers,

<font color="#D3D3D3">Relen <font color="#A9A9A9">tless <font color="#808080">Recu <font color="#000000">sant 'o the Halopedia Team http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/a/ac/Fleet_Admiral.jpg <font color="#A9A9A9">TALK • <font color="A9A9A9">SPEAK 19:50, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Bah! No...I don't *need* you to do anything! :-) You're the Operations Officer of your company, after all, you have day-to-day operational command. Do you know your Colonel and Major? You probably want to speak to them regarding the name of your unit...although us over at Old Dinosaur Command probably think that a company name beginning with "D" fits better. ;-) Cheers, <font color="#D3D3D3">Relen <font color="#A9A9A9">tless <font color="#808080">Recu <font color="#000000">sant 'o the Halopedia Team http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/a/ac/Fleet_Admiral.jpg <font color="#A9A9A9">TALK • <font color="A9A9A9">SPEAK 19:59, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

XO officer
Hey

Yeah, I was pacing RyannGreenDay after I heard rumors of him forming the Company system and found out that we were in the same company this morning.

Rumor coming down the Grapevine (well....from RR on IRC) is that our Company name needs to start with a D....as we're in "D" Company. I'd suggest "Dirtbag", but anyone who hasn't seen "Police Academy" might not appreciate it.

A tad about myself, I only became involved in Halopedia on July 8, but extensive work on several articles convinced RR to give me a boost from Staff Sergeant to Lt last night. I tend to aim for playing the role of historian and my current projects thus far have been rewriting biographies and battle articles.

Also, we need a template :D

--Forgottenlord 19:56, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I like Delta...but I'm simple that way. I Demolitions was an idea I thought of. RR thought of Destroyer in IRC but said it sounded to heavy (I think that's the word, but I keep getting disconnected so I don't have it on my local logs right now). --Forgottenlord 20:22, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Definition of Dingo: 2.	Australian. a cowardly or treacherous person.

--Forgottenlord 20:31, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Should we just form as "D" company, then? I probably won't be able to do much until tonight, anyways

--Forgottenlord 20:45, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

RE: RE: "D" Company
Dear Captain,

I believe that Ryanngreenday and Spartytime should be your Colonel and Major, respectively, although you should check with them. I'm trying to talk with your XO...whoa...well, OK, the organization is weird. "Formally", Phil.e. is the CO and Dragonclaws is the XO, you're the Ops Officer. Anyways, I'll just address you as CO and FL as XO anyways. ;-)

Furthermore, I believe I will take a personal interest in "D" Company. It is my favorite company, as I have very good relations with the CO and XO, and see much potential from your userbase. However, I do not wish to interfere with your first command...and if I have suggestions, permission to speak? :-)

Cheers,

[Template fetch failed for http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Template:RelentlessRecusant/Sig?action=raw; sorry] 20:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry I've been spamming your talk page...I'm continually reposting my signature, but the template fetch is appearantly not working. =( I knew that it would come back to haunt me. Anyways, it's RR. ;-) Cheers, [Template fetch failed for http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Template:RelentlessRecusant/Sig?action=raw; sorry] 20:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL. :-) Furthermore, *I* didn't think of "Destroyer" or "Dragon"...I said on IRC those were too "loud" and "phony". ;-) Anyways, Delta feels crisp and concise, but of course, it's all up to you, sir. Glad to be working with you, skipper (navy terms I know but !bAH :D). Cheers, [Template fetch failed for http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Template:RelentlessRecusant/Sig?action=raw; sorry] 20:25, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Halopedia:UNSC of Halopedia/D Company
Dear Captain,

Here's your new HQ. If you want, tell me about a "real" name and a quote and I will add it ASAP. :-)

Hope to hear from you soon.

Cheers,

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 * "Dusk"? ;-) Demon sounds kinda Covvie-ish and I'm not sure exactly about what Dingo means. ;-) Cheers, <font color="#D3D3D3">Relen <font color="#A9A9A9">tless <font color="#808080">Recu <font color="#000000">sant 'o the Halopedia Team http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/a/ac/Fleet_Admiral.jpg <font color="#A9A9A9">TALK • <font color="A9A9A9">SPEAK 20:49, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Dingo Company it is, then. :-) I'd...umm..."suggest"...that you write down a set of articles of improvement, as I will probably soon host a UNSCOH-wide competition between the companies to see which can collaboratively improve articles...and then say that those that work on them, you'll write a letter for them to the General for a nice promotion. :-) Cheers, <font color="#D3D3D3">Relen <font color="#A9A9A9">tless <font color="#808080">Recu <font color="#000000">sant 'o the Halopedia Team http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/a/ac/Fleet_Admiral.jpg <font color="#A9A9A9">TALK • <font color="A9A9A9">SPEAK 21:00, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

company
I see you changed the name, sounds good A Monument to All Your Sins is in.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 21:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Im sure he will, if you were to have a Sgt. Major it would be him, yes?-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 21:31, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

"Retreat? Hell, we just got here!" nice, and yes i agree, he would be good for that. I'll work on the Sgt. Major thing right now, feel free to change his rank on the HQ page.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 21:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Yup that what i thought, we are the best.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 21:45, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, all the Companies face a problem. Lack of everything but Pvts we have to many newbs that dont do much and were lossing active members oh halopedia all the time.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 21:51, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Articles for Improvement

 * 1) Why Covenant Civil War?  I'm not saying it doesn't need work (I haven't looked), but it isn't exactly UNSC material
 * 2) A couple that I noticed:
 * Spartan-104, Biography in particular could use work
 * Operation: FIRST STRIKE, which recently got on my to-do list

--Forgottenlord 21:53, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I NEED YOUR HELP
I've found more evidence for an actual merge for the rocket launcher articles. It's on the newly ordered project page (placing the facts before message board conjecture). It proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the M19 and M41 are the same. I've even e-mailed bungie on the subject! I will, however, still settle for the compromise situation, it is still on the table. I require your assistance in convincing people that the merge is a good thing. Please can you help? I would be in your debt.

Thanks, --A Monument to All Your Sins 16:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

hmmm...
It might just be me but could you take "If you could leave vulgarity, racism, and stuff like that out of this page" off of your page. It might just be me, but that's something that would entice trolls/vandals to vandalize your talk page. Cheers, H*bad (talk) 16:39, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

We need...
A "Dingo Company wants you" template --Forgottenlord 17:19, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

No we dont. For teh most part so far its me who desides who goes in what company.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 17:25, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Some will some wont, we need to spead out every newbie evenly as possible.-- UNSCOH   COL.   "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM  22:30, 2 July 2007 (UTC) 17:35, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Request
Permission to select the 4th Article for Improvement? --Forgottenlord 00:01, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

RE: HaloDude
Dear CommanderTony,

I am currently speaking to your XO on the IRC, and he has a very high opinion about HaloDude's promotion...although I think that Staff Sergeant is more fitting. Anyways, I'll give you the honors of handing out the certificate...I think this is the only time a non-commander has done a promotion. =]

Here's the code: or similar. ;-)

Cheers,

RelentlessRecusant 'o the Halopedia Team http://images.wikia.com/rainbowsix/images/7/73/GDI2.jpg <font color="#A9A9A9">TALK • <font color="A9A9A9">MESSAGE 03:35, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

HaloDude
Just doing my job, Sir! D company FTW!  What  <font color="Red">did <font color="Black">HaloDude  [|<font color="Red">Do!?!] 09:16, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Yer sig
Did you copy the code for your sig from mine? If you did that is SO cool! Can you tell me if you did or not? Dingo FTW! Major  Spartyti m  e  Talk  16:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Sweet! Of course I wouldn't kill you! *Puts Uzi back in pocket* Major  Spartyti m  e  Talk  16:46, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I got infinity NOVAS and 5 Halo Constructs!!! Nuff siad! Major  Spartyti m  e  Talk  17:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC) Oh, rly? Well I had an M249 SAW in my other pocket. :D Major  Spartyti m  e  Talk  16:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Well, I've got an overheating super MAC cannon! Major  Spartyti m  e  Talk  17:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

yeah? Well I got Jesus, Buddha, and 30 Novas, along 30,000 flood Combat Forms! Major  Spartyti m  e  Talk  17:15, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Well! I got your mom.I win, you lose.*logs out* Major  Spartyti m  e  Talk  17:21, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


 * pulls out pistol**shoots CommanderTony in head while gathering his action celebrities* Caught ya off guard, didn't I?[[Image:UNSCoH_Dingo_without_letters.PNG|30px]] Major  Spartyti m  e  Talk  17:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

After the way we murdered each other and dozens of innocent celebrities, I'm not so sure we're in heaven. ;) Major  Spartyti m  e  Talk  17:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)