Talk:Epoloch system

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Still getting used to the wiki here, but from what I've read on Halo Wiki guidelines a question emerges: When the text says "a planetary system in an unknown region of space", my question is "unknown" to whom? The fans is the only answer I come up with. Infinity was there a couple of times as was the Covenant, so it's not like it not a known location and star system to the Forerunners, Covenant, and the UNSC, but just to the fans. Not singling this article out, I've seen lots of evidence of this style of writing as I get used to Halopedia. Is this something that should be rewritten to be a little more 'in-universe' as the guidelines suggest?

Another example I came across is in reference to UNSC weapons and ammo...plenty of references to "modern" counterparts in which they mean our time and not written as though it's the mid 26th century. If a reference was made to something our armies have now, wouldn't it be written as either "ancient" or "centuries old"? Just want to go with the flow here and some of the entries mess me up a little. ScaleMaster117 (talk) 17:46, 20 June 2013 (EDT)


 * You're over thinking it a bit much, just go with the flow of things and it'll catch on. You are, however, correct when the word "unknown" was used for the fans or readers. I changed it to "unidentified" since it has not been named by official sources. I doubt it will be since Requiem was destroyed, but you never know. -


 * The closest thing to a designation it has (other than Epoloch now) is what may perhaps be a UNSC designation for the star seen on the Dawn in the hologram room when Requiem scans the ship at the beginning of Halo 4. The number 43121124 my not be the planet's or star's designation, but it must signify something. I'm hesitant to add it without knowing more. The Dawn must've been deposited in the outer edges of the Epoloch system for it to drift toward Requiem, virtually unpowered, over the course of 4 years. We know from the novels it wouldn't remain in Slipspace without power, and it couldn't go from one star system to the next by drifting...not within 4 years. ScaleMaster117 (talk) 18:47, 20 June 2013 (EDT)


 * Now were getting somewhere. I know the place you are talking about, and saw the same few numbers listed as well as a few other things. They could be coordinates established on a uncharted system, but that's just my wild guess. I just like to point out though, that the aft-section of the Dawn not only "drifted" towards Requiem, but might of been drawn to the shield world (atleast when it got close enough), as seen on the holo-projection, doesn't seem like a coincidence. -


 * Shouldn't we simply remove the mention of the region being unknown/unidentified? In this case, it's known to pretty much everyone. And even if it were only known to the Forerunners, it should still be something like "a planet in the Forerunner ecumene". Instead of focusing on the lack of details (such as Requiem being on the extreme boarder of the galaxy or in the Orion Arm or whatever), we should focus on the details we know. "Unidentified" should be kept for pages that would require a name (Persons, ships, planets, etc), we know they exist but they weren't named in any Halo media, so we don't have much of a choice.Imrane-117 (talk) 21:11, 20 June 2013 (EDT)

Oh, totally agree Killjax...you can explicitly see the Dawn's trajectory and you can see how a new trajectory yanks the ship off its course directly toward Requiem on that holographic display. Just saying the Dawn had to have exited Slipspace in the edge of the Epoloch system as it couldn't have gotten farther in 4 years without a translight capability.

Also agree with you Imrane-117. Even a reference to unidentified seems more like its for the fans reading instead of something in-universe. ScaleMaster117 (talk) 21:17, 20 June 2013 (EDT)