Forum:Moving in/bug reports

Welcome user tag
On the tag on the front page whenever I log on it shows up and says that I have a gift request for "-1 gifts". - S.B.44   [Talk] |undefined 01:30, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Okay, that is weird. I'll need to dig into it &mdash; please remind me on IRC about this so that I don't forget. --Jack Phoenix 06:40, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Same issue for me now. I received a gift, then sent a gift, and now I have -1 gifts and can't get rid of the message. -- 18:17, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Steve fixed this particular issue (see Halopedia:Developer log), I committed his fix (improved it a bit to add checking for user messages and awards too) to upstream in r75010 and applied r75010 to Halopedia today. --Jack Phoenix 06:00, 19 October 2010 (EDT)

User page
Uh, for some reason my user page is only saying 1 edit, when I had at least a thousand before the swap. Is this normal at first, or is something wrong with it? Blade Bane 03:02, 18 October 2010 (EDT)Blade bane
 * Captain Blade bane, I'm seeing "Edits 831" on your userpage as of now. --Jack Phoenix 06:40, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Odd, must just be a display thing then. However, my halopedia mainspace edits was 1035 according to special:editcount, but over here it only has it as 694. Shouldn't my overall be higher? (Don't mean to be sounding like an edit whore, just curious is all). Blade Bane 06:47, 18 October 2010 (EDT)Blade bane
 * Yes, we're looking into what might be causing this and seeing how we can resolve this issue. --Jack Phoenix 08:31, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
 * There's a few missing revisions from some of the articles. We're waiting for an updated wikia dump so we can have those imported soon. Nicmavr 08:33, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Yeah, Jack, the full MediaWiki dump wasn't actually complete. Some pages only have one revision from an older dump, which is why edit counts are down. And when a new user logs in from Wikia, aka "registers" here, Special:UpdateEditCounts needs to be run or they'll only have one edit. -- 11:28, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Could something be done to make the edit counts update automatically? I don't mind having to use that tool every now and then, but an automated process could simplify things a bit. Nicmavr 11:50, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Sounds like epic hack time...maybe a hook in MediaWikiAuth.php and a hooked function or just plain copypasta from SpecialUpdateEditCounts.php to MediaWikiAuth.php. Either way, the database queries need to be performed in MediaWikiAuth::initUser, probably after updating the user's info in the database (it needs to be done before the extension tells Snoopy to log out from the remote wiki). Doable, yes, but also a bit complicated. --Jack Phoenix 06:18, 19 October 2010 (EDT)

My user page is destroyed, darn. Also my sig is back to default and I don't know how to fix it anymore. Galacticdominator 17:43, 26 October 2010 (EDT)

Move Article
Apparently, that function is denied to a rollback user. I tried to move Team beta to Beta Red, and it denied me permission to perform the function. --  Specops306   Autocrat     Qur'a 'Morhek   04:16, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
 * You need to be autoconfirmed (in the autoconfirmed implicit group) to be allowed to move pages. We have altered $wgAutoConfirmAge and $wgAutoConfirmCount from the software defaults; I'm sure that you'll pass $wgAutoConfirmCount, but maybe you don't pass $wgAutoConfirmAge &mdash; we all know that you've been around for a long time, but maybe MediaWiki thinks that your account is "new", because technically speaking, it was created when you first logged in with your Wikia credentials. --Jack Phoenix 06:40, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Do we know what the edit limit is? -- SFH 21:14, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
 * The edit requirement is quite low. The account age is what's limiting everybody right now, and in a few days everyone will be autoconfirmed. -- 21:40, 21 October 2010 (EDT)

Youtube Videos
I'm not sure if it was like this before the move or not, because I just recently joined, but I found that the Youtube videos on the Halo 3 cutscene page weren't working I assume that they won't be working on other pages, but haven't looked into it yet. -- Andrew996 18:02, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
 * They seem to be working now actually. My computer might have been doing something or it might be an on/off kind of thing. sorry for using your time if it turns out to be nothing. --Andrew996 18:08, 18 October 2010 (EDT)
 * I modified the page. -- 18:17, 18 October 2010 (EDT)

Era template
I don't think the era template is showing up on the pages. Is that just the skin? pestilence  Phil,  pestilence!  21:04, 18 October 2010 (EDT) Same goes with the ratings template. pestilence  Phil,  pestilence!  21:13, 18 October 2010 (EDT)


 * Yep, era icons indeed weren't showing up. They should show up now. If they don't, purge your browser's cache (CTRL+F5 works for IE8 at least). Thanks for the report! --Jack Phoenix 06:18, 19 October 2010 (EDT)

NO PICS
When i was looking on the landmine article, it didnt show the picture, just the file nameLars99 15:15, 19 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Galleries require the "File:" prefix before the image name here. -- 15:32, 19 October 2010 (EDT)
 * It seems this is the case in with a lot of images. Any idea why and how to solve? - Major.png Nìcmávr  ( Tálk  ) 05:24, 23 October 2010 (EDT)


 * Galleries in standard MediaWiki require the File: prefix, Wikia hacked their MW not to require this. The solution is to find the pages that use the gallery tag and change 'em. There's no simple solution to this. --Jack Phoenix 08:07, 23 October 2010 (EDT)

This isn't really a bug but more of a question
I follow A LOT of pages on wikia. So I was wondering if there was a way to transfer my watched pages from Wikia to Halopedia?!?!?! Vegerot ( talk )  18:08, 19 October 2010 (EDT)?!!!!!


 * I don't think it works that way. You would need to add them manually back to your watchlist.
 * I think this can be removed by tomorrow. Not really helpful if it's not a bug. :P -  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 18:33, 19 October 2010 (EDT)


 * You could just select the "Edit raw watchlist" option at the other wiki and copy-paste the full list here. That's what I did, anyway. --Jugus (Talk  | Contribs ) 18:38, 19 October 2010 (EDT)

I didn't see that option! Vegerot ( talk )  21:35, 20 October 2010 (EDT)!


 * Special:Watchlist/raw --Jack Phoenix 10:50, 28 October 2010 (EDT)

Edit Count
Similar to the above problem, my received points and edit count seems to widely vary. I had just become a Gunnery Sergeant back on the OLD Halopedia, the move cut me back to Sergeant by about 200 points, but that's understandable because the 2 week gap. But yesterday, I had 14,500 points listed, now it lists me as Sergeant with only 7,500 points. I check and all my contributions are still there, but maybe the amount of points given per edit is being reduced, but even then I should still be JUST about at Gunnery Sergeant, not lower. Anyone else? Tuckerscreator (stalk ) 18:56, 20 October 2010 (EDT)
 * The reason for the recent drop is because we just changed the setting to only count main namespace edits instead of all edits. Not all pages have their full histories, which I am slowly importing, so the edit counts will continue to gradually go up. -- 19:07, 20 October 2010 (EDT)

Ah. Does it also change the amount of points received? Since just yesterday I made several additions that were numbering well into the thousands, now a similar sized edit still gives only 50. That also part of it? Tuckerscreator (stalk ) 00:52, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
 * You receive 50 points for each mainspace edit you make. Any such edits under your name that's imported in the meantime will also count towards your point count (we're using a tool at the moment that automatically updates edit and point counts when new content is imported) - Major.png Nìcmávr  ( Tálk  ) 09:33, 21 October 2010 (EDT)

So I know it's been like a month since the move, but right before the move I hit 3000 edits and the rank of Colonel. I've now only got less than 2400 edits and 120,000 pts. Obviously points and user levels are by no means my motivation for editing Halopedia, but it would be nice to get credit for the work I've done. Is there any way to get that fixed, or am I stuck?--  Rusty  [[User talk:Rusty-112|  -  23:46, 16 November 2010 (EST)
 * Wikia can take the blame for that one because the dump they provided wasn't complete. That said, we've (and still are) importing page revisions (so by extension, edits) that were not transferred, so your edits/points should go up in time. In reality, everyone lost some edits, so in contrast, we have more or less the same edits as before. Just carry on as normal, things will become stabilized as time goes by. - Major.png Nìcmávr  ( Tálk  ) 08:51, 17 November 2010 (EST)

Point glitch?
When I'm logged out and view my profile, it says that I have 90,800 pts, but when I'm logged in, I have 69,600. Does anyone know why this is?  / / STRYKER    [  COM  |  LOG/M  |  LOG/S  |  AAU/HUM  ]  19:58, 21 October 2010 (EDT)

It was in a weekly update. Basically, when you're online you have 100 times more ways to earn credits but offline your only have 4. So they make it harder online since it's easier and harder offline since it's easier. Vegerot ( talk )  20:57, 21 October 2010 (EDT)!!!!

Logged-out users see cached pages, and the cache had not updated since we changed the points system to only count main namespace edits. It's good now. -- 21:34, 21 October 2010 (EDT)

My points didn't get carried over &quot;Mike&quot; 13:23, 14 November 2010 (EST)

I'm not 100% sure about this but I think I remember being a Sargent. My wikia-halopedia page says I've done 98 edits and 98x50(edits)+1000(Signing Up)+100(First Avatar) = 6000 But right now I have 4,150, however I'm not sure about this. &quot;Mike&quot; 15:19, 14 November 2010 (EST)

Boards
I'm not sure what you can do about it, but the message boards are rather slow. Someone will send me a message and I will get alerted about it an hour to two hours later. The same goes the other way around, people don't recieve my messages until like an hour later. The messages are around, they just don't show up where you would normally look. pestilence  Phil,  pestilence!  16:30, 24 October 2010 (EDT)


 * Maybe Steve knows more about this, I haven't paid that much attention to the time, I usually read my board messages like a few days afterh they've been sent to me. ;-) --Jack Phoenix 09:41, 25 October 2010 (EDT)


 * I've had back-and-forth conversations with people and didn't notice this issue. -- 10:38, 25 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Ditto Steve. Do you perhaps have a slow connection? I recall this happening back on halo.wikia due to laggy connections of a sender or receiver. They're working fine for me atm. - Major.png Nìcmávr  ( Tálk  ) 10:48, 25 October 2010 (EDT)
 * I don't believe that I do. I'll just deal with it. As long as no one else is having the problem. . . pestilence   Phil,  pestilence!  21:13, 29 October 2010 (EDT)

Redirect Function
Using the redirect button on the editing page simply produces, for example, #REDIRECTCovenant agricultural support ship rather than #REDIRECT Covenant agricultural support ship. Not a major thing - it's not as if people redirect pages these days anyway, they just slap the delete template on it. --  Specops306   Autocrat     Qur'a 'Morhek   21:42, 24 October 2010 (EDT)


 * I'm not seeing a redirect button on ?action=edit... --Jack Phoenix 09:41, 25 October 2010 (EDT)


 * I think he's referring to "#REDIRECT " in Edittools and Newarticletext.-  <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 18:14, 26 October 2010 (EDT)


 * Fixed. --Jack Phoenix 10:50, 28 October 2010 (EDT)

OpenSearch
Please enable the dark magic of MediaWiki's OpenSearch functionality (which should be enabled by default, but somehow isn't enabled here right now,) so we can make awesome use of the Firefox search bar. Thank you! --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 12:16, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Firefox gives me the option to "Add Halopedia (en)" in the search bar drop-down menu. Is this what you're talking about? -- 13:03, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Yeah, that. It's not showing up for me, though. Weird. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 13:17, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
 * OK, I found out the reason: I had the h.w.c's search installed, and apparently, Firefox will not show the add link if a search engine with that exact name already exists. So I guess it's a Firefox bug, not really MediaWiki/Halopedia's bug. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 13:22, 27 October 2010 (EDT)

Erroneous Edit-Conflict
Lately I seem to be edit-conflicting myself. I'll edit a page(usually a talk page) then when I hit save it tells me there was an edit conflict, however, I look and the only changes are my signature! Somehow the wiki seems to be "edit-conflicting myself" and I don't get why. Anyone get how that works? Tuckerscreator (<font color="#008000">stalk ) 11:20, 28 October 2010 (EDT)


 * I'm gonna assume there's a latency delay (lag) in your connection, causing your browser to edit-conflict itself. Are you using Internet Explorer? This issue is very common in IE browsers apparently.- <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 14:08, 28 October 2010 (EDT)


 * Yep. Could try using Safari, but...  *shrugs*   Tuckerscreator (<font color="#008000">stalk ) 19:21, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
 * I recommend using Firefox. For me at least its faster and more convenient to use than IE. - Major.png Nìcmávr  ( Tálk  ) 09:15, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
 * Indeed, Firefox is strongly advised for browsing in general. - Black Mesa.jpg Halo-343   (Talk)  09:36, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
 * I use IE8 for my daily browsing and I've had no issues with Halopedia. --Jack Phoenix 12:20, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

Resetting of my profile
It seems that my entire profile was reset, even though I logged in just fine using my account. It reset my points and rank to 1000 and Apprentice. Also, my userpage, bio, avatar, and all of those goodies were reset. Strangely, it still shows my contributions in full.-- Fluffy Emo Penguin ( ice quack! ) 14:43, 31 October 2010 (EDT)
 * This is true of all first Wikia logins. I've updated your points/rank with Special:UpdateEditCounts; you'll need to copy everything else over manually. -- 15:12, 31 October 2010 (EDT)

Tabview
The tabview feature, which would allow embedding a sub-page into an article by entering it between the tags, doesn't seem to be working here. For an example, this is how it shows up here while this is how it's supposed to work.--<font color="MidnightBlue">Jugus (<font color="Gray">Talk  | <font color="Gray">Contribs ) 10:40, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
 * Copying it straight from Wikia--it has some dependencies we don't have. Maybe Jack can make it work. -- 11:17, 1 November 2010 (EDT)


 * TabView is an ugly Wikia hack, its dependencies are quite literally all over the place (which is very typical when it comes to Wikia code; they haven't heard Brion's "extensions should stay as self-contained as possible" mantra). So, please don't use TabView. Instead, you can use Dantman's JS tab system, which I've just added. To make tabs, use code like this:

Tab #1 Contents of the first tab will go here. Tab #2 Contents of the second tab will go here. Tab #3 Contents of the third tab will go here. Tab #4 Contents of the fourth tab will go here. Tab #5 Contents of the fifth tab will go here.
 * --Jack Phoenix 12:20, 1 November 2010 (EDT)


 * Updated and replaced tabview with Dantman's Tab System. I'm going to assume it takes quite a while for the css and js to load up, as the current tag doesn't seem to load up.- <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 12:40, 1 November 2010 (EDT)


 * There was a bug in the code (a JavaScript variable called is_khtml used to exist in wikibits.js file pre-1.16; the tab system code hadn't been tested with 1.16 before and it used is_khtml; obviously you cannot use variables that haven't been declared). I've fixed it. --Jack Phoenix 14:08, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

Link problem in Template:Navbox
I could've posted this at the template's talk page, but since the problem may be a result of the transition, I thought this was as good place as any. In all list templates using Template:Navbox, the "view this template" or "v" link doesn't include "Template:" in the link like it should, resulting in broken links. For example, in Template:Sangheili, the "v" links to Sangheili instead of the template. --<font color="MidnightBlue">Jugus (<font color="Gray">Talk  | <font color="Gray">Contribs ) 03:25, 2 November 2010 (EDT)
 * Should be fixed. -- 11:22, 2 November 2010 (EDT)

Couple of issues with the new skin

 * As Odysseus pointed out to me, the Era icons are not showing up with the new skin.
 * Not really a bug, but more of an improvement suggestion: Would it be possible to make the edges of the new skin rounded as we've done in Monobook? And possibly give the tabs (Edit, Discussion, More Actions, etc) some sort of transparency so that they don't just pop up in front of the mountain theme? I'm also kinda interested in doing the same for Vector (I know that fewer people use it, but as a secondary concern, it could do with some cleanup).

P.S. Note the top-right corner when using the Halopedia skin, that green patch area; might want to make that transparent too.

Regards,

-  Nìcmávr  ( Tálk  ) 08:53, 5 November 2010 (EDT)


 * Era icons are now showing up, you may need to purge your cache to see them.


 * As for the rounded corners, that's just CSS (for non-IE-browsers; you need either images or curvyCorners.js for IE).
 * Same for transparency idea; maybe a gradient of some sort would look nice?


 * The top-right corner has that green patch because it was originally wider, extending to the left side of the page and there was a third tab ("more wikis"). You can try disabling the background property in Firebug for the #wiki-login element and see what it looks like &mdash; as you can see, it the profile/log out (for registered users) or log in/sign up (for anonymous users) tabs have a background, they're not transparent. They need a transparent background first and then we can remove the background for the #wiki-login element. --Jack Phoenix 10:47, 5 November 2010 (EDT)

White text for Featured Article, most likely for others
I just logged in today and noticed above today's Featured Article there was supposedly no text. I highlighted anything above the Article to make sure, but there really was text. Here's a link to a picture relating to this subject, some of the text is highlighted to clarify that there is indeed white text.

I would also like to suggest that a "Campaign" link in the Gameplay section of the Nagivation should be added. I do appreciate the presence of the Walkthroughs, but adding a "Campaign" link would be more convenient to those who would like to check out the Campaign levels of Halo directly, without having to type moderately long words in the Search bar.  T uah A  08:59, 10 November 2010 (EST)


 * Regarding the Featured Article box and those affected; not a technical bug, simply that the background image in the template didn't load up properly. Every now and then, it happens. Simply refresh the page or purge your cache.
 * As for Campaign added to the sidebar, wouldn't it be better to replace Walkthrough with Campaign? Just a suggestion to the administration team - <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 10:17, 10 November 2010 (EST)

Error creating thumbnail
When viewing the page File:CivilianReach.jpg displayed is the error message: Error creating thumbnail: convert: unable to open image `/home/halopedi/public_html/images/thumb/2/2c/CivilianReach.jpg/800px-CivilianReach.jpg': Permission denied @ blob.c/OpenBlob/2403. The image does appear correctly when clicking "Full resolution" and in the gallery section on Civilian, though. Thanks. --31stCenturyMatt 05:36, 13 November 2010 (EST)
 * No error message when I view the file page. Might be a temporary error that fixes itself. - <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 09:22, 13 November 2010 (EST)
 * I fixed it; the directory had the wrong owner and couldn't be written to. -- 10:12, 13 November 2010 (EST)

Thank you. I found another one: File:Halo Reach - Sword Base 02.jpg. Just trying to help. :) --31stCenturyMatt 19:22, 13 November 2010 (EST) Error creating thumbnail: convert: unable to open image `/home/halopedi/public_html/images/thumb/6/67/Halo_Reach_-_Sword_Base_02.jpg/800px-Halo_Reach_-_Sword_Base_02.jpg': Permission denied @ blob.c/OpenBlob/2403.
 * That's the right idea. -- 20:19, 13 November 2010 (EST)


 * here's one i found File:Emile standing.png--1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide 1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif 14:59, 3 December 2010 (EST)

Error creating thumbnail: convert: unable to open image `/home/halopedi/public_html/images/thumb/b/b5/Emile_standing.png/640px-Emile_standing.png': Permission denied @ blob.c/OpenBlob/2403.


 * Got it. -- 16:54, 3 December 2010 (EST)

Restricted tools

 * 1) (Move log); 11:09 . . 109.110.253.155 (Talk | block) moved User talk:SPARTAN-A110 to User talk:RenamedUser2 (Automatically moved page while renaming the user "SPARTAN-A110" to "RenamedUser2")


 * 1) (User rename log); 11:09 . . 109.110.253.155 (Talk | block) renamed User:SPARTAN-A110 to "RenamedUser2" (0 edits. Reason: moving alternative account to make room for user requested rename)
 * Obviously I cannot access restricted tools while logged out under normal circumstances, but if my login times out after I'm logged in for a while... epic wtf^^ - Major.png Nìcmávr  ( Tálk  ) 06:16, 14 November 2010 (EST)
 * Talking about automated log-out after a period of inactivity; mind disabling that... because it's annoying to log in again and having your IP exposed.. :P - <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 14:22, 14 November 2010 (EST)

Unwatch button
I don't know if it's a problem for anyone else, but I noticed the Unwatch button doesn't quite work as it should. When I click it, it actually moves from the right side of the page to the left, and then I have to click it again for it to take effect. It's really not that big a deal, but it seems to be a bug anyways. --<font color="MidnightBlue">Jugus (<font color="Gray">Talk  | <font color="Gray">Contribs ) 04:51, 15 November 2010 (EST)

Problem with the Template:Individual Ship Infobox
All the Individual ship infoboxes for individual specific ships are now acting like a Ship Class infobox. The code is there, but the text itself is not showing up. -- MisterRandom2 20:29, 26 November 2010 (EST)
 * Not a bug; that was my mistake for not updating the Ship Class Infobox design and fields.- <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 10:57, 27 November 2010 (EST)
 * So is this going to be fixed? -- MisterRandom2 12:50, 2 December 2010 (EST)
 * It was fixed last week.- <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 13:02, 2 December 2010 (EST)
 * It was? Then why isn't stuff like the "Date destroyed" text showing up? -- MisterRandom2 11:36, 3 December 2010 (EST)
 * Because that is irrelevant to ship classes.- <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 14:14, 3 December 2010 (EST)
 * But what about individual ships like the Pillar of Autumn, the Truth and Reconciliation, etc? -- MisterRandom2 19:17, 3 December 2010 (EST)
 * Those should be using Template:Individual Ship Infobox.- <font face="Century Gothic"> <font color="#FF4F00">5 əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7 aŋk (<font color="#FF4F00">7alk ) 19:39, 3 December 2010 (EST)

Problem with site
Sometimes (seemingly randomly) I'll be unable to connect to Halopedia and I'll get some browser error message like "Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to Halopedian.com" and then I'll be given some other options and such. It's weird because this problem is exclusive only to Halopedia - all other sites seem fine when I try to connect to them. I can only reconnect to Halopedia by emptying my cache, cookies, etc. Why is this?--<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide 13:58, 3 December 2010 (EST)


 * Seems to happen to me too. And occasionally clicking the link sends me instead to "Ask.com". Tuckerscreator (<font color="#008000">stalk ) 14:10, 3 December 2010 (EST)

lol ask.com? random--<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide 14:56, 3 December 2010 (EST)

We had some downtime, and it drives me nuts when it happens. I apologize for that. -- 17:00, 3 December 2010 (EST)


 * ah i see. i thought that those problems were solved?--1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide 1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif 17:10, 3 December 2010 (EST)


 * What happened was that my web developer messed up a setting, and that snowballed. So it was more of a human error than a problem with the server, which of course is still bad, but at least we're not having major server issues. -- 19:59, 3 December 2010 (EST)