Talk:SRS99-AM sniper rifle

Ammunition
Does the SRS 99D AM fire conventional bullets, or fin-stabilized sabbot rounds? In the VGA Trailer, Jun is seen loading conventional bullets into a SRS magazine. Warhead xTEAMx 15:59, February 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * you must really have great eyes, cuz i can't see how the fuck you can distinguish the bullets on the VGA trailer :s --Fipas 15:45, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you know a thing or two about weapons and ammunition, it's fairly easy to distinguish, as the sabbot rounds are very dissimilar to conventional bullets. Warhead xTEAMx 16:43, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I checked the trailer and these are just normal FMJs
 * In the trailer, they may be normal FMJs but given that the bullet in game still leaves a white trail, the rounds are still probably APFSDS rounds, just like the other 3 SRS-series rifles we've used. Avalon304 17:24, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * so does my .416 barrett m99 with almost any type of ammo ive used it usually happens with rifle rounds any bigger than a .338

Rifle name
According to the page on B.net, the rifle is the SRS99, with no "D" at the end. Is this a typo on their end or on this page? Naepa34 15:39, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Check the sources section.-  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 16:11, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Where is it stated that SRS stands for "Sniper Rifle System?" I know it would only be logical, but I still want to know how this nomenclature was found.
 * Common sense and Halo: Ghost of Onyx.- Sketch ist 01:23, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know it's common sense, but I can't find it in the damn book! Help would be appreciated :)

Name change request
The rifle is named "SRS99" on the Halo: Reach Ordnance page and the "SRS99D AM" in the Gameinformer article. In the hierarchy of canon, Bungie's word is the highest. Therefor, this article should be named "Sniper Rifle System 99". Just to add a little common sense, this weapon is the original of its series, so why would it be a 'D' variant? Plus, there is an "SRS99D S2 AM" variant (in Halo 3) and it shares very little with the H:R Sniper Rifle, so the H:R Sniper Rifle is unlikely to be the father variant of the Halo 3 rifle and more likely to be the original model of the entire series.-- Fluffy Emo Penguin 20:33, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Are you implying that GameInformer is introducing fanon (according to your request, it seems to imply that GameInformer added "D" to the weapon and ignoring Bungie canon, hence an unofficial information and as such considered as fanon) in their articles to their customers and that they're modifying Bungie-released content, without ever informing their customers that the articles are fake? That GameInformer spread lies? :O


 * No, I'm implying that a typo was made by either the GI editor or the Bungie member that gave the information OR that the name has since been changed...-- Fluffy Emo Penguin 21:00, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Indeed Bungie Canon hold superior authority, but also remember that the Third Party media mostly refine all known information (such example is expanding Bungie-controlled content unless it contradicts Bungie canon). So, in this situation, GameInformer is simply expanding Bungie Canon. Most, if not all, of the content released by GameInformer is very accurate as it came directly from Bungie. If GameInformer has shown some history of unreliability (which they have not), no doubt we would ignore their articles and stick only to Bungie.-  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 20:45, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * If it is named the "SRS99", then it would be the precursor of all Sniper Rifles we've seen in the Halo games since it lacks a letter. Since there are 2 sources of contradicting information that are supposedly equal in authority, the source located on Bungie's website itself wins out. Also, keep in mind that it is more recent information than the GI article.-- Fluffy Emo Penguin 20:54, June 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * *Curses slow connection, slow refresh loadouts and edit-conflicts!*
 * Well, I'm all out of exploiting loopholes. :P -  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 21:28, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Soooo....name-change time?-- Fluffy Emo Penguin 21:33, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Super awesome, but one more thing. Not to be picky, but I'm not sure what to add to the name. The ordnance page only names it "SRS99" and no mention of "Anti-Material". Should that be included?-- Fluffy Emo Penguin 21:55, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Bolt & Reload
Seriously, who keeps removing my post about how the Sniper now cocks when you pick it up? It was seen in a recent IGN video showing off multiplayer maps at 1:19

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14276699/halo-project/videos/halor_maps_vdp_080310.html

And it has a new reload animation, which, almost for sure, means there will be an empty reload too, as every other human weapon in Reach has one. Also, I'm going to point out that the reload animation was cut off and didn't fully reload. It's seen in the mulitplayer interview video at 3:56

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14276699/halo-project/videos/halor_multi_inv_080310.html Alex T Snow 19:15, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Ammunition Amount
I recently added a trivia thing about the ammo, from a recent screenshot. I did the reference wrong, I put the link than a | symbol, then the name of the source, but it combined them. If anyone can fix that or check the ammo thing, please fix it. I don't have a wiki account, however.

Here's the link to the screenshot: []

Done. Sorry about removing it earlier. Que  Sera,  Sera  00:18, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

Anti-vehicle
Seriusly why? It's obviously stronger than it was before. Why did you reverted it?--Ketsumaye 19:20, 24 October 2010 (EDT)

APFSDS versus HVAP
"Here. You may need these. High velocity, armor-piercing. They'll take the hat off an Elite at two thousand yards. And they ain't cheap."

- Jun-A266

This quote from Jun suggests that this model of sniper rifle does not fire the Armour Piercing Fin Stabilised Discarding Sabot rounds fired by the rest of the SRS series, but High Velocity Armour Piercing (or Armour-Piercing, Composite Rigid if you're British) rounds instead. This interpretation is supported by the fact that in the levels Noble Actual and Nightfall, and in the Halo: Reach Video Games Awards Trailer, Jun is seen with conventional, full-bore rounds in his magazines instead of sabot rounds: HVAP rounds are full-bore rounds consisting of a core of a high-density hard material surrounded by a full-bore shell of a lighter material (e.g. an aluminium alloy), as opposed to APFSDS rounds, which are sub-calibre dart-like projectiles with breakaway sabots. Furthermore, HVAP rounds lose velocity and accuracy at long ranges, explaining Jun's "they'll take the hat off an Elite at two thousand yards", which is roughly 1800 metres, considerably less than the 2300 metre ranges of the APFSDS-firing SRS 99C-S2 and SRS 99D-S2 rifles. Therefore, I suggest we change the article to reflect this, and also the 14.5x114mm article to show that there are different types of that size of round.--The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari 16:31, 12 May 2011 (EDT)