Talk:Supreme Commander

To help with the arbiters armor, keep in mind that the people who made the halo graphic novel altered the appearences of certain characters. For example, the elites in The New Mombassa part of the Graphic novel made elites have pink skin opposed to there usual purple grey skin seen in the games. Strangely enough the Graphic novel stated that the arbiter had another flagship."Most likely an Error."Halo3 19:26, 15 January 2007 (UTC)--Halo3

Title, not Rank?
Is it possible that the Spec Ops Commander was just being respectful to his commanding officer, and not calling him by rank but rather a title, like sir or officer. --Shch &#39;Nodotee 17:13, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible that Fleet Master and Supreme Commander are the same thing, we've never seen a Fleet Master in gold armour, only Field Masters and Ship Masters, and the Arbiter could have been demoted to Zealot rank seen during the introduction to halo 2. User: Joshua 029

In GoO it says a golden armored elite, confirming that Voro wore the gold armor of Zealots. Voro was a Fleet Master. --Shch &#39;Nodotee 00:18, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah yeah you're right. User:Joshua 029

Arbiter's armor?
If the arbiter was supposed to be a supreme commander, how come he wore gold armor in Halo`2 when in the comics, he wore purple armor?

The people making the comics were being creative.For exampl, eliteshad pink skin opposed to the regularpurple grey skin in the Mombassa story.Halo3 20:29, 2 February 2007 (UTC)--Halo3

I think that the soon-to-be Arbiter already was stripped from his role as Supreme Commander (as his fleet was already largely destroyed) before getting fully sentenced for his failure. Lieutenant Alan

More than one appearance?
Is it possible that the elite in purple armour that was shot in the head by Tom's sniper rifle during Operation TORPEDO was also a supreme commander? Spartan G-23

No that was most likely a spec ops elite.Otherwise a worker class or civilian elite.Halo3 04:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)--Halo3

more pic of the supreme commander.

Difference
What's the difference between Fleet Master and Supreme Commander? They both command fleets.-- Joshua 029 13:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Supreme Commander, also known as Commander-in-Chief is a title in Earth militaries. General D. Eisenhower was the supreme commander of the allied forces in the western European theater, in control of all forces - Navy, Air and Army. This Covenant would appear to have an equivalent. Thel is a fleetmaster who is in control over the Fleet of Particular Justice's ground forces.-- Forerunner 13:00, 25 December 2010 (EST)

Purple Cloak
I just re-read the Cole Protocol recently, and I'm unsure whether the purple cloak was either custom clothing or the uniform for the so-called Supreme Commandeer. As most of you who have read the book know, 'Vadamee wore a purple Ship Master's cloak. Doubtless, as his ambition was to become a Fleet Master, and that he was drafted into the Fleet of Particular Justice, and that he became the Supreme Commander, and later, the Arbiter, I'm wondering whether Supreme Commander is simply a over-glorified term for Fleet Master. In Halo 2, which is considered higher canon than the Halo Graphic novel (which did, by the way, had hardly canonical art), 'Vadamee had golden Zealot armor. My proposal is that Supreme Commander is simply another name for Fleet Master, and that some reckoning must be taken due to these new updates. The term Supreme Commander is extremely out of date. — K o  u  g  e  r  m  a  s  t  e  r  s  01:43, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible explanation for this
"However, when Thel 'Vadamee appears before the Covenant High Council, he sports golden Zealot armor instead of purple, suggesting that the golden colour is more ceremonial than the purple."

Not really. He was going to a hearing. Perhaps the Zealot armor serves the same purpose as our Service Alpha uniforms - we wear them when reporting in or when going to a court-martial. The Supreme Commander armor would serve the same purpose as our Dress uniforms - ceremony. Smoke  21:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I know this is a really old discussion but I'm going to add to it, If it was just his reporting uniform then why was it degrading for him to be stripped of it?

Supreme Leader
Trivia: "In the Halo 5: Guardians Official Game Guide, the title is constantly referred to as "Supreme Leader"."

I think "Supreme Leader" is a title exclusive to Jul as the leader of his Covenant rather than being applicable to the Covenant rank of Supreme Commander (unless the cited Halo 5 game guide attributes the rank to others than Jul). Palmer also calls him "supreme leader" in the opening cinematic of Halo 5. --Jugus (Talk  | Contribs ) 00:26, 19 January 2016 (EST)


 * That's a possibility. In this case, Jul would have both titles: Supreme Commander means he leads a very large fleet, and Supreme Leader means he is the head of his Covenant faction. Would the latter title require its own article? Imrane-117 (talk) 01:32, 19 January 2016 (EST)


 * Supreme Commander and Supreme Leader are the same thing when referring to Jul 'Mdama. In the Ori-Covie it might be interchangeable. Alertfiend - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. (Converse) 02:59, 19 January 2016 (EST)


 * I don't think "Supreme Leader" would be interchangeable with the Covenant rank of Supreme Commander as it carries as decidedly different connotation - "commander" is unambiguously a military term while "supreme leader" has a more political, almost totalitarian ring to it - which is appropriate to Jul's position but wouldn't really be fitting for Covenant-era fleet commanders. I don't think the Supreme Leader rank needs its own page as it's quite self-explanatory as far as titles go, and seems to be exclusive to Jul (for the time being, at least). We should mention it on the Jul 'Mdama's Covenant faction and Jul 'Mdama articles, though. --Jugus (Talk  | Contribs ) 10:02, 19 January 2016 (EST)


 * I meant in the same way Rtas was referred to as "Leader" by his men, it would be a less formal way of recognizing someone with such a high rank if that makes sense. Alertfiend - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. (Converse) 10:14, 19 January 2016 (EST)