User talk:Grizzlei

Regarding the Art of Halo 3 edits
First of all I have seen an Abrams, second of all it says it plain and simple and I quote "The Pelican is huge, but it seems that very few people fully grasp its hugeness. This is at least partially due to the in-game view and the relatively small number of people that were ever shown riding in it. But truth be told, you can fit an Abrams M1A1 MBT in the troop bay."

it looks a lot wider then what we see in any of the three Halo games. I do not believe this is something that would be exaggerated. What is said on Page 38 also had to be checked by Robert McLees who is the current holder of the HALO STORY BIBLE, the definitive source of every aspect of the Halo mythology, And he was involved with the book as he is listed in the credits. Durandal-217 04:07, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

No, I was not saying the troop bay of the Pelican is 76 feet in width. What I unfortunately left out is that it is possible for an Abrams to fit inside a pelican if the troop bay has a width of around 14ft. However since there are no solid numbers on the dimensions of the troop bay this is only speculation, though you do bring up a good points about the aft section of the Pelican and the Scorpion M808B MBT. To help provide further clarification into this, I've contacted Stephen Loftus. He has done extensive work on the dimensions of all of the vehicles in the Halo Universe, and I'm interested to hear what he says, I've also asked him if he could provide dimensions of the troop bay for both clarification, and for addition to the Pelican article. Durandal-217 06:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Troop Bay
Tony, I finally received a reply back from Stephen and low and behold the Art of Halo 3 is right, this is what Stephen had to say:

"The Pelican is one of my favorite Halo vehicles. I remember recently reading the Halo 3 Art page on the Pelican and recall the stat about the Abrams. I didn't think anything of it as I am well aware of how big the Pelican really is and that fact didn't surprise me. What Bungie means by it is that the overall dimensions of the Pelican's troop bay is close to the dimensions of the tank. I don't think they intended to imply that an Abrams could be parked inside a Pelican as-is. I whipped up a diagram for you comparing the troop bay to an Abrams. The fit is a nice one, but you'd have to remove the seats and remodel the troop bay, but the overall dimensions has the right fit with a little of the tank sitting out the back. If you have any questions about the diagram, let me know. (By the way, the model of the dropship I used is the Halo 2 Pelican, not Halo 3. There's no significant difference in overall size anyway from Halo 1, 2, and 3.)"

The dimensions of the troop bay are L: 9.83M (20.3ft) W: 4.64M (15.22ft)H: 3.23M (10.6ft) Durandal-217 13:22, 20 December 2008 (UTC)