Talk:Halo 3

The following ARE NOT IN Halo 3!

 * NOTE:I don't fix them myself, because they may be right.ONLY if you find proof, fix them.--Spartan-007 10:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Spartan Laser WARTHOG?
(corrected)

When was the "Spartan Laser Warthog" added in the vehicles list? It would be nice to have such a vehicle, but there is no proof!

There's definetly a spartan laser but that vehicle seems unrealistic. It would be an advanced version of the Gauss Warthog, which would be pointless because the Gauss Warthog is already good enough. MaulYoda

a spartan laser warthog... how dillusional - яÏΜFÏяΣ  the rebelious anarchist Terminus  21:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Sentinel Beam
(corrected again)


 * Where is it announced there will be a Sentinel Beam? --Spartan-007 15:25, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Somebody has added the Sentinel Beam back, when there is no evidence to support this. i'm removing it until there is official confirmation. --SpecOps306

You removed it, but someone added it again GOSH DARN IT!!!.-Spartan-007

Flamethrower(again)
(ok, corrected)

Which Weekly update confirmed the flamethrower? - User:Dockman


 * None till this point.--Radzon 02:44, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Then why is it included in the main page?User:Dockman


 * Yeah I've read all the updates I think & I never heard anything about a flamethrower. Alex 06:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Maybe a jurk anti-HALO fan wanted to tease us. What a *F....r* he must be!--Spartan-007 15:25, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe there is some sort of vandal out there, who wants to piss us off!!!--Spartan-007 22:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Someone has added the Flamethrower in the weapons' list, again...

I found that user who vandalized the MA5K page his name is Random Noobie it took me around 20 mins sorting thru the history so ban this jerk vandal will ya.

Well, Bungie didn't release the flamethrower in xBox due to the time estimination. But in Halo PC, it is a playable weapon. I didn't found it very interesting, and prefer the shotgun then the flamethrower. I don't think it would appear in Halo 3--Master Chief Petty Officer 14:04, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I actually saw a screen shot picture with master cheif's hand holding a flame thrower. Im sure it was edited. I saw it on google.com    images--Spartan 1 1 7 22:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Its halo 1 pre-release images.-Spartan-007

MA5K Assault Rifle
(corrected)
 * it says that it was announced in the Halo3 Vidoc)???????????
 * It apparantly is mentioned in GoO but I don't see mention of it in the Halo 3 ViDoc: Et Tu, Brute? -- Esemono 03:08, 29 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Where does it say in the Halo 3

He(=see vandal name below) has also written in the weapon's page (MA5K Assault Rifle) that it will exist in halo3 and was announced in the Brute Vidoc.He want to confuse us, but I'm tracking his edits.

The assault rifle will be making an appearence, that was confirmed, but it will be altered. MaulYoda

Oh wait, this is a different assault rifle. Hopefully it will have a scope. MaulYoda

an assault rifle with a scope??? hell yeah!!!!! that would be awsome i hope there is one - Relentless Persecution (talk) | |undefined | undefined(contribs) 21:01, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Why would the MA5K be in halo 3 when the MA5C is already in it? The MA5K (meentioned in Ghosts of Onyx) is just a stripped down version of the MA5B(from Halo Combat Evolved). --  O_M_R_I_F_E_R_E  TundefinedC 01:11, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Plasma Cannon?
Why is the weapon seen carried by the brute listed as a Plasma Cannon? There has been no official statement declaring that it is indeed a plasma cannon, and it doesn't really look that much alike to the ones in H2


 * I actually think it looks exactly like one. It also fired pretty rapidly, if i remember right. Ryanman
 * The brutes are so strong, that they can wield it like a normal weapon.--Spartan-007
 * That's just pure speculation --Dockman 03:42, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It might be, after all, Brutes don't really wield such a thing, I had been thinking of it recently --Master Chief Petty Officer 13:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I was actually about to ask if it was a Plasma Cannon myself. I took a look at a screenshot of the brute with this weapon, and it is not fixed to the ground like the Plasma Cannon in Halo 2.  I also agree that it doesn't look like the ones in Halo2.

The Brutes are strong enough to carry it like a normal weapon thats why they didnt mount it on the ground.

I'm strong, why can't I just rip it out of the ground and carry it like a normal weapon? I don't think it is a plasma cannon. Sergeant Johnson also can pick up large machine-gun-type-turrets, but still shoots them while they are on the ground. Same with elites.

How do you know there will even be a Halo 3? Every thing is relevant and nothing can prove another, so there is no proof of any thing. In all reality evrything is nothing yet something at the same time, so if evrything is nothing you cant prove nothing because it is all the same. I think. sogy

Carrying that plasma gun will just be like carrying the warthog chaingun seen in the h3 multiplayer vidoc

couldn't be the needle rifle = brutes wouldn't carry that, wouldn't be a new rifle = they have plenty of automatics... it must be just a feature of either mounting a turret for your teammates or holding it for yourself...  ???

There are screenshots of a Spartan wielding a chain gun, maybe thats a new feature, there are guns on the bases but you can like hold the x button or something and then use the weapon switch button and pick it up. Anyone think that's likely?--Captain Jacob Rathens 20:57, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Crater Size
Assault carriers are not 3 miles long.The crater is three miles long as confirmed by bungie.How many times must I mention it.Stephen Logas is predicting and guessing.I'm not trying to mean offense but the point is that the assault carrier is'nt all that big.Sure Stephen Logas used models and such to measure covenant ship sizes but it is still prediction.The only way to actually confirm this is to either ask Bungie themselves or rent a copy,(If Possible which is highly unlikely) of there Halo bible...I'm sorryHalo3 20:41, 25 January 2007 (UTC)--Halo3


 * I think you meant stephen loftus. but i'm sure i heard or read somewhere that the Carrier WAS three miles long, and that the crater was FOURTEEN miles wide. user:specops306
 * No the crater is 3 miles and I'm sure of it.I,like most, am a member of Bungie .net.Keep in touch with every article and most articles say that the crater is 3 miles long.Stephen Logas is simply theorizing.Like I said the only way to be sure is to ask Bungie.Even I'm not aloud to communicate directly by e-mail.If the assault carrier was three miles long we would of known long ago.Three miles may sound small but for a crater that would be on a record of one of the biggest craters around.Assault carriers are NOT three miles long.I'm sorry but I never did trust H.B.O and the fan fiction.Stephen Logas has done a great job but I'm not going to totally rely on hs work.He is theorizing.I't is the Halo story line that I will trust along with solid evidence from Bungie.Halo3 04:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)--Halo3

I'm a meber of Bungie.net too. and I have kept up with articles. could someone PLEASE confirm which size it is? because i dont want to argue with somebody, regardless of who's right. and you keep saying Logas. sorry, but you do. user:specops306

Oh no I'm not trying to argue.Sorry about the "Logas"habit.Bad habit indeedHalo3 03:25, 29 January 2007 (UTC)--Halo3.

That's okay. and i wasnt argueing either - just trying to stop myself before i did. -- SpecOps306 00:54, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Lets stop and use logic here. Now I realize that I may be mistaken, if I am please forgive me. Anyway, in the halo 3 announcement trailer you see ruins of what appears to be New Mombasa, also, I find it difficult to believe the carriers are any smaller than 3 miles, but once again, I might be mistaken. Also, if the carriers are less than 3 miles then they are at least 1 mile, and it seems from the video that it would take at least   5-6 carriers to reach across the crater. anyway, I may be mistaken but it doesn't matter, hope your all cool with me putting in my opinion! ;P -- User:Omrifere 02:44, 7 February 2007

If i'm not mistaken I thought the Carrier blew the city up when it went into slipspace and the explsoin blew the crap out of the city (and took a few buildings with it) and the Ark (or whatever the thing in the trailer is) was revealed so I think the Crater was either made by the Scarabs blowing the ground up and then the Slipspace rupture or the Brutes have been doing some digging.

Keep in mind master chief along with alot of other marines have seen a massive amount of variety of covenant ships most likely including assault carriers.When master chief first saw ascendant justice he said it was the largest covenant ship he had ever seen signifying it larger than an assault carrier but thats if he's seen an assault carrier.But stil I also dought the assault carrier to be even as big as a mile.3 kilometers may not sound big but it sure is enough to be seen as a behemoth in the sky.If the assault carrier was a mile or 5 it would most likely cover all of the significally small new mobassa island which actually is small as it's an artificial island. To add on to that the assault carrier that was hovering above the masterchief in the E3 announcment trailer for Halo 3 was'nt all that big on close inspection.If it were 5 or even 3 miles long it would be way bigger. This goes for the assault carriers passing Cairo and the one hovering over regrets temple in a Halo 2 cutscene. Heck if the assault carrier was 3 miles or 5 miles long it poses a possiblity of being seen in space if viewed properly. As for the slipspace rupture it is possible that the exit was just simply a result of being released into the atmosphere whereas in space there are no interferences causing no reactive explosian.Halo3 04:51, 4 March 2007 (UTC)--Halo3

"Gravity Rifle"
Frankie said (in the most recent update) that a gravity rifle was used by a group of Jackals. This is either a typo to the beam rifle (since a "gravity rifle" ((pre-halo 2 beam rifle)) was going to be put into halo 1 on PC), a new UPGRADED beam rifle, or just a new name.


 * No. He did not say gravity rifle. He said exploding-gravity-sniper-platform (or something along the lines of that).  Kind of like the floating sniper platforms in Halo 2 (You know, the ones with the gravity lifts, like in the level; Relic), except explodable.


 * Wait for future updates, we'll know then. -ED 21:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually he did say that the gravity platforms were going to be explodable, i remember reading it in an update. Capt Bartlett 22:11, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

M6D?
Can someone get a link to the weekly update for the M6D sidearm confirmation? I just want to read it--The Chazz 22:20, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
 * M6D Won't be coming back, just another variant of the Magnum. -ED 21:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I found it for myself, just go watch all the leaked videos it is there, Peace.--The Chazz025 and Clan 14:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

The right story?
A long time ago even before the Halo 3 announcement trailer there was a plot line on the web. Some of you may have heard it before most of you might not have. But it said it was written by a bungie guy. I can't right the entire story for its LONG. But it did mention things like "the humans and covenant will unite to stop the now unholy FORERUNNER'S"- prophet of mercy. And like Truth gets chopped by a forerunner, A new major brute captain that is as big as a hunter, the new sentinel SPIDER thats on land, etc... it did mention a possible X button function. In a bungie update it said the X button is a cross between a kneel down and the" Fontana's on speed dial". This reassembles what it said in the story. It said "now with one button you can be HIGH COM or Cortana and strategically drop reinforcements via three the map. Such as scorps, hogs, marines, and amo. But it will rely on power plants and if that fails other buildings" it also works when your Arbiter. Well thats all. Sorry for the double post *chuckles nervously*


 * that is flat out NOT HAPPENING. If that happens, it changes Halo from a wicked-awesome FPS to some weird messed up strat-game.  The bungie guys would get lynched if they did that. Courier, Central Post Office 17:40, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

It would be awesome, though.

"You suddenly realize that 1 Brute Chieftain with an energy sword,10 hunters, and 1000 elites are chasing you....and you are on foot, with an empty pistol, no grenades, and so damn tired that you can't even mellee.You call a peli to drop you a scorpion and it lands on the chieftain and the 10 hunters.You get in and massacre all        the elites, which run away like grunts.Then you HUM# EM' ALL." LOL

WRITER:Spartan-G007 xfire nickname:Spartan-G007

I wouldn't give a damn to this piece of crap!Master Chief Petty Officer 13:14, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

(possible X button function. In a bungie update it said the X button is a cross between a kneel down and the" Fontana's on speed dial".) i've heard that it was deploy... like trip mines, jump pad and bubble shield... i saw it somewhere...

Scorpion Tank
If you look under Zoe Brawley you can see she made art using in game footage. In one of her pictures there are three scoprion tanks. Can't this mean this is confirmed or at least very likely?


 * Well, I think the Scorpion Tank is a major UNSC vehicle, which I am hoping they would add it to Halo 3Master Chief Petty Officer 12:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Of course they will add it! how do you expect rooster teeth to make Shiela? user:the evil O,malley


 * Well, I am just saying though, you could have seen a fired shell of a Scopion tank at one of the Multiplayer pic in Halo 3Master Chief Petty Officer 05:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

That picture has been there since Halo 2 came out...So I doubt it "confirms" Scorpions will be in Halo 3 at this stage, although I think they will be in the final game.


 * Look, I think it might be because its the finale. It must returnMaster Chief Petty Officer 05:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


 * It is incredibly likely that they will keep scorpion tanks in the game, but I haven't seen any references to them specifically yet in Halo 3. -ED 21:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

They would summarize all the things in the first and second game, that makes a more dramatic ending and the player don't need to get so dispirit because not playing all the vehicles in the finaleMaster Chief Petty Officer 11:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Flood in H3?
halo 3 flood on earth cJLTk5Aokl4 People say flood will be in H3 any proof? user:the evil O,malley

I think thats gonna happen. Prophet of Regret knows where Earth is, rightey? So i think he tell'd Gravemind the location of it, so flood can attack there. -Hras 'Kazumee

There must be. If the Covenant Loyalists are the only enemy you are facing it will be extremely dumMaster Chief Petty Officer 11:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah and the Halo's were built for examining and destroying the flood and this is halo 3 kind of a give away plus what happend at the end of H2 User:Kami-Sama

If you want to see what might happen if the flood were on earth go to www.youtube.com and search for (halo 3 flood on earth) TRUST me User:0nyx Sp1k3r

Ok people thanks for info but my question is still unanswered IS THERE ANY PROOF??user:the evil O,malley

Firstly, the video is actually some scene from halo 2, it can't fool you guys, secondly, there are no proofs yet, although I quite agree with flood in Halo 3Master Chief Petty Officer 10:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm just saying this video could give you a feel for it if the flood were in H3 and got to earth,Im not trying to fool you i am just trying to help you imagine it. by 0nyx Sp1k3r
 * I imagine so. The Flood are so closely related to the Halo series, I doubt they would leave them out, if not just to sell more games. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 21:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

For the last time. IS THERE ANY PROOF!! PROOF PEOPLE! PROOF!!user:the evil O,malley

The halos were built to research the Flood, nothing else. The self-destructing thing is just a failsafe, if anything goes wrong. --DIGIPATD

Halo 3 leaked gameplay video
Has anyone seen the leaked gameplay video of halo 3? I have seen it in youtube.com and i posted it here for you. It seems like one of the beta players was taking a video with a cellular phone because the of quality of the video looks horrible. He seems to play in almost all the levels we have listed by now, Snowbound, Valhalla, etc. and also what seems to be a level inside a covenant ship that doesn't seem to be listed yet but whoever is playing uses both the Battle Rifle and the MA5C Assult Rifle, also the sniper and the shotgun and you can easily see the difference between that sniper in there and the one in Halo 2, the scope is different, also in one of the scenes one of the players is killed by what seems to be the spartan laser at the moment the player is using the magnum, and it seems pratically identical to the one in Halo 1 and in other scene the player is using the dual-spikers and they also use the mongoose. You can tell it is not the halo 2 because of the places, the mongoose, the details, the weapons, and the fact that in some scenes you can see the other player's weapons at their backs. Click on the link at the end to see it, i swear it is not a lie. Radzon 18:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC) leaked Footage khpChMUtLSc


 * It looks crazy and whoever filmed it looked like he was an idiot using a cell phone or a webcam. it doesn't matter though. looks like the real game but still, video quality was so bad it's almost impossible to reach a good conclusion. --Captain Jacob Rathens 22:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Some things are clear enough to see the MA5C and the BR, and also remember that it is higly probable that they were not allowed to film the beta, so he might have done that secretly with the cellphone. Radzon 01:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems a little suspicous that whenever they show a weapon shooting its into the sky so that we don't see any terrain. It's almost like bungie faked the leak and sent out the video to drum up more PR -- Esemono 07:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Maybe but you can see the M6D being used against someone else and the spartan laser in action and also the mongoose.--Radzon 17:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

No indoor covenant map!!!!
There is no indoor covenant map that has been found or confirmed. The images and videos of a small purple area are part of snowbound, a sort of underground cavern that can be entered through those funky new player-only doors. I wont correct the page since someone might come up with proof of an existing map, if not, then could whoever put it in should delete it.

Who ever put this post above mine is right that was part of snowbound, Peace.--The Chazz025 and Clan 16:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Jeeze-looize sorry!! I did it please don't scream at anyone im new here.user:the evil O,malley

General Feelings for the game
It seems like a real good game but it looks hard. But, I like a challenge. Bunjie, Bring it.The Se7ens Haunt Me

Cause its a good game, what do you expect? But you are right, its a challenge,Master Chief Petty Officer 12:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I got offerd to play the BETA. But, I turned it down. I said that I would rather play the game from start to finish.

The Se7ens Haunt Me

Bungie make Easy harder than Legendary and make Legendary like Devil May Cry 3 on Super Hard mode HA HA HA!!!
 * Yes, you make complete sense. -ED 01:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Come on, get use to it, you must learn how to play like Chief's getting on with the Covenant!Master Chief Petty Officer 04:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Petty Officer, Im not complaining about it. Im actually applauding it. To me, I really don't like easy games. I much prefer a challenge. I beat halo 2 on legendary twice so I cant wait for H3 to see what bunjie has cooked up next.The Se7ens Haunt Me

I agree easy games suck and Ed if youve played DMC3 you will know what im talking about hardest game ever they had to re-release it too making it easier im just kidding but i want a challenge yeah and battles from the update had 24 covies

Are Covenant still on Civil War
I am just thinking, did you (correct me if I am wrong) that a brute is actually standing near a pack of Grunts? Aren't they on the civil war?Master Chief Petty Officer 10:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

The ranks of the grunts are split (at least thats what I think they said in the brute vidoc). That means some will fight beside the brutes, and some will fight beside you (probably only as the arbiter) OAR LOCK 15:20, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes they are fighting just some are forced to fight for the Brutes if they were and those were fighting those Grunts would have had a big lesson in pwnage poor Grunts on Gravemind getting bombrushed off buildings and getting mauled by Chewbacca like-things (brutes)
 * As Cortana said in Halo 2, the Grunts never officially declared allegiance; they were too afraid to. They likely are forced to side with whoever was in charge of the area when the Civil War began. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 21:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it's just an informal ViDoc, not the actual game. I'm pretty sure you won't be fighting alongside with Brutes. However, I think that there ARE Brute "rebels".

Well, if you are putting the ViDoc title to history, 'Et tu, Brute' is actually a quote from a drama which is translated roughly to 'You too, Brutus?' I am thinking if the brutes too, have rebeled against the Prophets!Master Chief Petty Officer 06:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I think Bungie made that title cause' that is where the actual word "Brute" comes from, so yea I'm thinkin the title's non-canon. Capt Bartlett 03:04, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Do any of you guys think that the some of the Brutes, and I am saying Some of them, has or have rebel against the Covenant, because of discovering the turth of Halo?ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 12:27, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Master Chief dies in Halo 3?
If you look in the song list on the back of Halo 2 Vol. 2 soundtrack under "Epilogue" you will notice that the music extends beyond the end of Halo 2. In the Announcement trailer of Halo 3, Master Cheif is somewhere very close to New Mombasa, and one of the songs is titled "Road to Voi", which is also close to Mombasa. Another song in the soundtrack under Finale is titled "Thermopylae Soon" and Thermopylae is a place in Greek history where there was a battle and all 300 Spartans of mythology were killed. Seeing as Master Chief is a Spartan, he will likely die. This of course is pure speculation and I would not like to upset anyone and I personally would not like to see the Chief die. Capt Bartlett 22:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Very good very intresting i would say my thoughts but think i'll just wait until it comes out again good theroy User:Kami-Sama

Maybe, because their is a song named Leonidas, and he died in the battle with the Persians in the history, maybe he represents the MCMaster Chief Petty Officer 09:33, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * yea, i saw that too but i didn't consider him as being the Master Cheif, rather a very important military commander Capt Bartlett 14:08, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * But see here, you remember that All Spartans are wiped out, so maybe not only the MC will die in the battle, but conclusions are never sad endingsMaster Chief Petty Officer 06:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Well also think about it, after halo 1 the MC almost ran out of his power supply. Well he hasn't been to a allied station in just about that time again, and there wont be time at the begining of the game. This fits with the 300 topic because they fought a enourmous ammount of persian then many started to die because of exaustion and dehydration. (this isnt from the movie so dont say that isnt how it went.) it is from the actual history


 * That's a very good point, I didn't know that. Maybe you're right. Capt Bartlett 02:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Ya know. Halo is gonna activate the end will come im makin a bet with my bud. user:the evil O,malley


 * The thing about halo getting activated. I dont believe it will happen. The Arc is destroyed and the MC will prob have to sacrafice himself to stop it. Or cortana one of the 2. Think though they say this is the final instalment, but they cant just stop and end the story it will have to linger on. There is not a story out there that just abruply stops. if it does activate sum1 will survive or they dont work. If not and MC does die. Chances are you will finally see his face at his funeral or when he sacrafices himself. Then there will be some twist like another childhood dream like in starry night. Then you find out there is another spartan or sumthing. Storys just dont stop like that.

Hey, (if he dies) about the funeral thing, I just honestly think that for one thing, if he dies in battle with the Covenant, there's no chance getting his body back, but if he sacrifices himself for saving humanity there may be a chance, but you remember CPO Mendez said to John, they commited the ashes of their fallen brothers into space, they may be a chance you would see his face. (Conclusion Theory)Even the MC died, he wouldn't be the only one who will be left to defend Earth, there are still more spartans, maybe they will meet up together in Halo 3, or some of the spartans may die for him. But I also think that we need to ask ourselves why will he die Master Chief Petty Officer 08:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

It would suck if he did die. But I sincerely doubt Bungie would go that far to torture us. Since there probably will be more Halo games, either there's another Spartan, or the Chief doesn't die.


 * Well bungie leaned toward that other spartan in the starry night Ad. That girl next to him is rumored to be one of his childhood friends that became a soartan from the books. I for got her name though, it started with a J

I played with MC for ten levels in Halo 1, fourteen levels in Halo 2; battling Covies and Flood zombies. This is my favorite playable character. Now I'm told that he dies. What a great game and story. :) --Blemo 04:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, like I said above, this is pure speculation from my perspective and would not like to see the Chief die either. Capt Bartlett 05:24, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

If the MC dies in the game, and there will be a replacement for his character, will you cheer up a bit?Master Chief Petty Officer 05:33, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

No. I think he will die in the very end along with all sentient life.user:the evil O,malley

I don't trust what Cortana said about the end of the world, I trust that the MC will prevent itMaster Chief Petty Officer 05:40, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Similarities of the halo3 teaser with a scene in the movie "300".
{spoiler}

(The words in bold are the similarities)

In a scene in the movie "300" Leonidas who, like someone said in this talk page, represents Master Chief:

1.Covers himself with his shield from the magic bombs Persians throw him

2.Then sprints towards the Persians while magic bombs explode around him.

{spoiler end}

In a teaser trailer of Halo 3 the Master Chief:

1.Covers himself with his bubble shield from the mortar bombs Wraiths shoot him.

2.Then sprints towards the Wraiths while mortar bombs explode around him.

Maybe Bungie wants to show us that Master Chief represents Leonidas.

p.s the movie "300" rules

p.s 2 if you see the movie you will understand THE TRUE POWER OF THE SPARTANS

The Greek Spartan: Spartan-G007 xfire nickname:Spartan-G007


 * I saw the movie. It was F!%$*ING awesome. & yeah that makes sence BUT the trailer came first and then the movie. So how could bunjie have done that unless they had direct contact with the movie but I heared nothing of bunjie with the director of 300.<font color=Gray>The Se7ens  <font color=Gray>Haunt Me

Great Scott, I see it too, but see here, when they first announced Halo 3, 300 is not yet filmedMaster Chief Petty Officer 03:09, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Yea that kinda comes in conjunction with what i wrote right above... Capt Bartlett 03:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Well maybe Bungie had heard of the scene from a script or hell 300 copied them

Even though, Bungie may be refering to the history, maybe Master CHief does represent Leonidas!!Master Chief Petty Officer 06:14, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Bungie and the director may have made a secret agreement.Remember:Bungie never reveals important things about the story and is FULL of easter eggs.They want us to understand these things ourselves.It is the most enigmatic game company the world has ever known.-Spartan-G007 xfire nickname:Spartan-G007
 * I really doubt there is any serious connection. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 21:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

What weapon do you want to use the most?
Me? I really want to use the Spiker. --Ferball 20:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Of course, I like to test on the SPARTAN Laser!Master Chief Petty Officer 01:59, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Meh... kinda partial to the spike grenade myself, but still really wanna try EVERY new weapon. Capt Bartlett 02:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Hah, but I hope they could widen the range of firing!Master Chief Petty Officer 08:59, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

True, the blast did seem to be quite narrow. I hope that isn't the only medium range damage that grenade will produce, cause' you would have to be pretty lucky to hit somebody with it. Capt Bartlett 15:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

You're supposed to stick people with those grenades. Watch the new vidDoc in the Halo 3 beta date announcement. I wanna use those trip mines. Or the bubble shields. The X button mystery has probably been solved. They said trip mine and bubble shield and showed footage of them in gameplay. And Bungie has stated it's not a grenade. This'll be fun.

Your right, if you look at the grenades indicator just before he drops the trip mine, you will notice the symbol just below the grenades. Capt Bartlett 02:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

new video doc on bungi web site
Watch it User:kami-Sama

In the new ViDoc it shows someone using a trip-mine in multiplayer, I would add it to the list, but I'm not sure of the affiliation (probably UNSC, in my opinion). Should I add it as unknown affiliation? Also, in the bungie update it says the function of the X-button is revealed, did anybody see this happening? Cheers, <font color="redrrdgfdtpifhghg658776543230997hygfdd654nbnb">OAR <font color="#QPWOEIRUTYAHSJDKFLLZMXNCBVGFTR">LOCK 19:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

It's UNSC. And we know the bubble shield and trip mine aren't considered grenades. X button right there. Gotta be. I'm pretty sure the mines are UNSC, the mine was gunmetal gray like everything else the UNSC uses

But if they're both on the X-button, how do you choose which one you're using? Cheers <font color="redrrdgfdtpifhghg658776543230997hygfdd654nbnb">OAR <font color="#QPWOEIRUTYAHSJDKFLLZMXNCBVGFTR">LOCK 21:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

well if you noticed in the video the frag grenade was selected and underneeth was the bubble shield or the trip mine so perhaps depending on what grenade you have selected determines wht the X-button dose. User:Kami-Sama

I noticed that, but another thing. In an earlier image it shows the players secondary weapon underneat the grenade, so maybe the trip mines or bubble shields take up the spot of your secondary weapon? <font color="redrrdgfdtpifhghg658776543230997hygfdd654nbnb">OAR <font color="#QPWOEIRUTYAHSJDKFLLZMXNCBVGFTR">LOCK 18:14, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Right, the people using the bubble sheild or the trip mine never have a secondary weapon, just a gun and trip mine/bubble sheild. Capt Bartlett 02:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Actual that's not true. If you look closely at 00:34/00:35 of the video you will see someone die and he will drop the bubble shield device, two SMGs, and a shotgun.

Yea i just noticed that, so maybe it is just something you have, in the latest weekly update, Bungie said they were "special" items that create variety, and there would be more. Capt Bartlett 04:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Found something
Well, you remembe reading GoO, the others are attempting to get off the Onyx to head back to Earth, do you think they will successfully penertrate the layers of Onyx in order to get back to Earth? the Spartans usually accomplishes every mission that are ordered to do so, so maybe there might be SII and IIIs featured in Halo 3! Master Chief Petty Officer 11:55, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Playing side by side with another spartan would be so awesome. That is like towards the top of my HALO 3 wishlist.--Spartan 1 1 7 21:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

What about the spartan III company (Gamma I think it was) that got deployed before the incident of Onyx?--The Chazz025 and Clan 01:43, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Like I have said, there are now 315 active Spartan IIIs in the service of the UNSC, and I bet Earth was the first place they were sent, so I am holding out hope we will see Gamma Company. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 21:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Put it this way, time has past, and I bet their is a period where the MC can rest and have a test on MJOLNIR Mark VII, or some minor edits to the Mark VI, and the during the period, The active spartans may be returned to Earth with Mendez and HalseyMaster Chief Petty Officer 13:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Combat Knife
What I'd like to see happen which probably will not is the idea of a combat knife fred uses. I am a knife/sword/melee fanatic so it would be awesome to slit someones throat open or stab a brute in teh heart. You could even do some hedge-trimming with the interactive grass and stuff. Fork 15:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

I like your idea because i would love to see a combat knife in halo. Hopefully if they put it in halo 3 you'll be able to throw it. It could be like the equivalent to the brute hammer and the covenant energy sword. -- 75.74.233.232 15:12, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

there is alredy abunch of melee wepons in halo, i don't think that adding a new one is a good idea sogy
 * Yeah I doubt we'll see it. The knife would have a very short melee range and i imagine that any "throat slitting" action would be prohibitively hard to create. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 21:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

They are not very effective against the Covenant, because most of the Covenant have their personal shields, and even you are using it on a Brute, you'd probably be riped apart before you can stuck a knife at him. It would be the worst melee weapon ever used in the Halo. Master Chief Petty Officer 07:03, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

 The Combat Knife, or Machette. --DIGIPATD

OMG! carry turret!
In the new vidoc, around 0:23-0:25 and at 2:26ish it will show High ground with rocks and trees.at 0:23-0;25 it will show a spartan with a spartan lazer on the left and... a spartan with a FRICKEN WARTHOG TURRET! on the right. hes holding it like the brute held the covie turret in the last vidoc! so you can rip turrets off thier hinges! so its like press R1 to use and press L1 to pickup! hurray!--NOTreal 00:44, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

God bless!!!!!!!! -- Climax-Void   Chat  or  My Contributions

By god he's right. Sombody get better quality pics of these. See-
 * Good lord, now they've got the Master Chief doing it Rambo style...-- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 21:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

sorry, I didnt sign. I'm not realy a registered user *chucles nervously* I jus love to visit. So... I guess I'll fake sign as "notreal". Sorry again.--NOTreal 00:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You could always create an account? -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 00:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I only find the teleport gates more interesting, and the shields seems weaker in my opinion! And well, I did see blood splattering all over the place when you get killed!Master Chief Petty Officer 12:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Just did. thnx--NOTreal 00:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Added the tell-tale shadow in the best resolution I could get. Capt Bartlett 02:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

God, you're right, it seems more like a machine gun to me though!Master Chief Petty Officer 07:00, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Okay, can anyone tell me what's that 'thing' the red spartan dropped in 00:34? Master Chief Petty Officer 13:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Um, that looks like the alpha-stage bubble sheild, look at the 5:40 mark. Capt Bartlett 05:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


 * But wait, in Starry Night the bubble shield device is not designed like this ViDoc!Master Chief Petty Officer 12:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Right, but rmember Bungie's update with the ViDoc? That footage was all during the Alpha-stage of development. So the odds are the bubble sheild already changed shape, and in the last weekly update Frankie said the bubble sheild "won't roll", so it will probably look something like it did in Starry Night. Capt Bartlett 15:21, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Bungie said that you can't pull the chian gun out of theWarthog, so its a new weaponMaster Chief Petty Officer 05:56, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Mabey it's an equipment weapon? like when you carry it you can hit X to plat it in the ground and make it more accurte.--BOW-CHICKA-BOW-WOW I don't have an account!

 It is the Chaingun, it's been around longer than Halopedia itself. Know your history and just shut up about it. --DIGIPATD

That's what I'm sayin! It's an old weapon from the pre-Xbox Halo... but you still don't have to be mean about it... :P Capt Bartlett 03:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Female Spartans
look at the new Snowbound screen the red Spartan look at the breastplate i think thats a female

Can we get a picture, cause' I don't know what screen you're talking about.Capt Bartlett 03:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Bungie has plans to add a female spartan in Halo 3 multiplayer, this is not altogether unexpected. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 22:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

OK firts things first, Bungie isn't a perv company (they'd have to be Japanese, zing!) so I don't think they'd give the female spartans breasts... oh and the colors pink not red, and also they only said they'd change the voice be cuase female spartans armor is only hollowed out differantly...--Blarg-chicka-honk-honk

I like to have a picture of it,ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 01:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

k Mr. "Blarg-chicka-honk-honk" (that part of rvb was so freaking funny, lotflmao) they didn't mean that bungie was giving the famale spartans big boobs, he just ment the plate that goes over the chest, and it just so happens to be NAMED a breastplate. blarg blarg honk blarg honk honk blarg. --Captain Jacob Rathens 02:45, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Marines?
Does anyone happen to know what the Marines in Halo 3 look like? They're briefly shown in the H3 ViDoc: Et Tu Brute. Some say they have black, battle-scarred armor sort of based on the ODST design. I think that these Marines will be cooler that H2, though. :) --Blemo 03:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Click 'ere to learn more about Marines.-Spartan-G007 xfire nickname:Spartan-G007
 * They haven't been seen, other than on the Vidoc. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 22:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I dont see why they would look anymore different then what they look like. In Halo: Combat Evolved they looked more like fisher men. halo 2 they did make them look more like actually marine, soldier type. I guess they could be be more detailed and more individual. Although, fighting side by side with a fellow spartan would be AWESOME!--Spartan 1 1 7 00:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Gyrophobia remake
Yeah. THat one place that looked like the bridges from Assault on the COntrol Room from H:CE...that' Gyrophobia. PLayers of the H:CE PC game will recognize the bridges underneath and walkway above. :D
 * What place? -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 00:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Halo 3 PC or Vista?
Do you think there is going to be a halo 3 PC? or even coagulation/blood gulch for halo 3?

-- Ptowery 15:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC) Tlk 2 me at my tlk pg!!!

There's a possibilty, well, come to my talk page, I will develop such a subject later!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 13:26, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, what I heard was that Valhalla was the new Blood Gulch, as High ground is the new Zanzibar so Zanzibar isn't coming back. With this its to be assumed that there will not be another Blood Gulch remake in Halo 3. Capt Bartlett 15:27, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
 * A Halo 3 PC will likely come out since Halo is owned by a computer company, but it will likely take a few years and may come out on a new operating system post-Vista. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 00:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I think Vista will not be operating Halo 3, because a new operating system will soon be out by the time Halo 3 was modified into computing mode.ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 10:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Few more things...
In the newst Vidoc, besides the chaingun, I found a few more things...

1. around 5:18 you can see the beamrifle in gameplay, it looks purple/pink and a little smaller.

2.In the hud screens: grenade,weapon,special devises are at the top left. The shield bars on the top middle! and Map/detector is where it always is, and ammo on the top right.

3. In the section where they show the trip mine in action, just before he lays it, there is a two second scene where you see what the driver see's. But, I saw the little "V" reticle, but no warthog! does that mean that its now first person? or is it changable?

Well, thats it I guess... I'll look again sometime... out--NOTreal 15:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

I can't find the beam rifle, where exactly on the screen is it? Capt Bartlett 18:17, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, sorry its at: 5:18, guy on the left, he fills up a 4th of the screen.--NOTreal1 00:01, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Here's some more!

4. also at 5:18, if you look at the top left of the screen, you see a blue spartan jumping from some sort of recage (spelling<)in mid air, the recage looks partly like the auto turrets, maby some can be destroyed.

5. ragdoll physics look like they improved alot! in the begining and at the "shoot guy out of midair with a sniper" part. and if you look carfully, you can see after someone dies, thier weapons and grenades roll and bounce reilistically.

6. Last but not least, it seams heavy and mediem weapons (Assault rifle, battle rifle, rocket launcher etc..) are carried on your back. Small and duel wield weapons (Plasma pistol, needler, spiker, SMG etc...)are carried on the right thy. if you have a flag, any weapon will probably be put on the back too. Oh, and about the auto turrets... some look like they are placed strategicaly in places (even where your supposed to go) so that it will be more than you just fighting the other players... so ya, you probably could destroy them.--NOTreal1 00:17, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

"This is the way the world ends." Really?
I was wondering is Cortana right? Is the world really gonna end?? user:The evil O,malley

Honestly, I have no idea or opinion right now, but I'm gonna lean toward "no". Capt Bartlett 02:35, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I have faith in the MC and I am gonna say 'no'ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 10:12, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the world is gana end, and all of humanity will crumble under the unstoppable onslaught of the covenant forces. All who perish shall fuel the hart of there enemy, building a force so strong that all who sand in it's way will be brought to his knees, the covenant is going to bern a path to a glorious victory spreading their divine will to all planets they conquer. Yes, the world is gana end and their is nothing anyone can do about it. sogy 09:23, 20 April 2007 CE
 * Who knows? If the artifact on Earth is, in fact the ark, and it activated, i would say the galaxy is going to end. But, since one Halo is destroyed, there may be a hole on the system and our part of the galaxy could be spared. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 19:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

But Ed, the firing range of a Halo is is too wide, so if a Halo is activated, Earth might also be involve, but since I disagree about the End of the World, I don't think it would happen!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 01:33, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

hmm, I haven't played Marathon but I've read quite a bit about the storyline and heard a lot of theories, one is that halo and marathon are connected. There are many different possibilities but I'd say that if the world does end than I think Master Chief, Fred, Kelly, Linda, Team Saber, and Team Katana are going to survive. But what do I know? I'm just some 15 year old geek in some town noone has heard of so my opinion is a little insignificant. LOL. --Captain Jacob Rathens 02:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Make a poll?. Then when the final game launches and the world finds out, we see which one was right. Although im all for 'no'. Im with Petty Officer, I got faith in Chief.--Spartan 1 1 7 13:29, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah a poll User:Kami-Sama is the world going to end in H3? Yes No Maybe i dont no

Well, as of now the humans and earth look pretty screwed... but, bungie would have to be Mentaly insane to kill chief off. MC is the "Mario of x-box" ,if he died, not only will bungie get kicked off the title, but some rookie charactor "Marcus fenix" will take his place! and i like GoW too! and bungie would loose popularity like there no tommorow. There will be no: whats the chief up to this time?--NOTreal1 17:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Now all thats left is to put it on the main page so the whole community can jump in!--Spartan 1 1 7 23:23, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Is Night Vision Coming Back???
In Halo: Combat Evolved when you zoom in with the sniper and press the white button (RB With 360) night vision comes on the scope. Is that coming back in H3???--Spartan 1 1 7 01:58, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I would like to see the night vision come back in H3. I think to only reason why it was taken out was that it was not needed in H2. You barley even need a flashlight in H2, everything was well lit and the textures were clearer. But personally, I don't think it will be brought back. sogy 12:22, 23 April 2007 CE

It will be back it was confirmed in the leaked footage (watch it at 1up.com) DizRupT

OMG MORE LEAKED FOOTAGE!!!!!!!!!!! I personally just don't trust leaked footage, some the vids I've seen look pretty legit but I don't trust anything that doesn't come directly from Bungie. Capt Bartlett 03:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

OMG again!
Just out today!, a new beta pre alpha build footage was shown! ( is at 1up!) it shows a map similar to the remake of zanzibar article, I didn't see the name anyware, but i saw redone multiplayer menus! (with semi-moving backgrounds) the map itself was a cross between: a five times larger indoor part of zanzibar, a more gray collosis, Ivory tower styleish buildings, and a Halo 1 PC or xbox map i cant put my finger on... anyway, it looks realy interesting! some key things were: a giant barel generator (simaller to zanzibar) and it appears to be a VERY large map, (containment size). It had a funny whistle song to it, and the dude just romed around in the place until he reached a bubble shield that looks like the bubble shield on a four or three leg stand. he then droped it by what looks like the computer from zanzibar, and just pushed it around until they got attacked by blue team. (it ends with the dude reloading behind a box) so anyway go check it out! oh, and some things were blanked out like map name etc... and it might be an instilation simaler to zanzibar only bigger. over--NOTreal 23:07, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

the entire leaked footage was 7min long *OMG 7!!*, you must have only seen part of it, and yet the full version is at 1up (actually linked to gamevideos.com),so how come you missed so much? DizRupT

I only saw the part footage. I got there like two minutes after it came... thnx thow--NOTreal1 14:13, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Heres more:

1. We saw the entire map, it looks like zanz got a total and big makeover!

2. We got a glimpse at a few weapons... first the spiker, the sniper, shottie, spartan lazer, BR, and what looks to be an anti-power thing (it looked like a blue bubble shield and it was called the "power drainer" so it would like be placed in a spot and who ever went through its field got sucked of energy:shields, bubble shields, plasma weapon over heat etc.) and the spartan lazer i think either throws you realy far or evaporates you.

3. vehicles, i saw vehicles, I saw: wharthog, ghost, and two mongooses. the dude drove the hog a little in the water, with cool rooster tail effects, as well as a mongoose. wich he ran many people over in, it is handled like the hog too. some other dude got in the ghost, and the human vehicles are on low ramp/delivery things.--NOTreal1 14:35, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Can somebody provide a link please, I can't find the video, <font color="redrrdgfdtpifhghg658776543230997hygfdd654nbnb">OAR <font color="#QPWOEIRUTYAHSJDKFLLZMXNCBVGFTR">LOCK 15:50, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Sentinals in H3?
Are the sentinals be in it? The evil O,malley 03:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

The should. Maybe, I don't see why bunjie is going to drop a character. Yeah. Yet maybe not that often.--Spartan 1 1 7 20:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't see why they wouldn't, after all if the artifact near New Mombasa in the trailer is an ancient Forerunner artifact, wouldn't it be logical that there are Sentinals guarding it. The Halos are to be activated should the Flood manage to escape right? Well what if they happen to invade that structure? I'm gonna put my bet on Sentinals being in there. Capt Bartlett 20:22, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
 * We'll have to wait and see, if there are Flood, there will be sentinels. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 21:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

WHOA!
I've been a member of Halo 3 Focus since last year! (I use babalfish) --DIGIPATD

Cortana gone mad?
At the end of H2 why didn't Cortana blow up In Amber Clad after the MC left? She would have killed the Gravemine, destroied the covenant holey city, destroied Installation 05, killed thousands of flood and covenant, and herself along with all of the human intel she knew, is she not willing to make that sacrifice, or just stupid? sogy

One word, rampancy. Capt Bartlett 20:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

NO. Three words: GRAVEMIND NOT EVIL. He helped the Arbiter deactivate Delta Halo (Teleported him), saved Master Chief (MC can't swim with four tons of armor on his back), and saved the Arbiter (Falling for eternity is dangerous). Who said that Cortana was still able to access In Amber Clad's controls, anyway? Oh, and the Covenant holy city is "High Charity". --DIGIPATD
 * We don't know if Cortana plans to destroy High Charity or not, since no one knows what she is thinking. As for the Gravemind, it is an entity of the flood, created by the flood, and it seeks self-preservation and reproduction: aka consuming all life. I would say it is decidably evil. -- ED ( talk )(shockfront) 21:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I think those questions Gravemind wanted to ask Cortana might have made her think more than she was designed to, that combined with the fact that the Halo data might have shortened her lifespan might have pushed her to her limit and enduced rampancy prematurely. What you think people? --Captain Jacob Rathens 23:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I still vote rampancy, think about it. She may not have overloaded In Amber Clad's engines because she knew it was on High Charity and would not destroy Delta Halo and/or she has a GREATER PLAN to save humanity. Either that or she really does want Humanity destroyed by the Flood, who knows? Capt Bartlett 03:16, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Who saids Graveminds not evil, Gravemind just want to save himself from starving to death, and its just the fact that he sent the MC and the Arbiter as a reclaimer. I just think he's quite selfish, I have no idea what he has to use for Cortana!ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 13:11, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Evil is all a matter of your perspective. The way I look at it, reasons you may consider someone evil are: they try to damage, your beleifs, health, happyness, way of life, goals, or possesions. This damage of our lives will make us consider them evil. However, they may consider that you are evil, for something else you have done, and consider their attack on you a neccesary retribution. Therefore, in my opinion (Many people will not agree with my views), I don't know how accurate that is, buts its what I make of the situation. For what it is worth, <font color="redrrdgfdtpifhghg658776543230997hygfdd654nbnb">OAR <font color="#QPWOEIRUTYAHSJDKFLLZMXNCBVGFTR">LOCK 16:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The humans see the covenant evil, because they challenge their lands, lives, and way of life.
 * The humans see the flood as evil, because they challenge their lands, beleifs, happyness, way of life, and possesions by attempting to steal it from them by possesing them.
 * The covenant see the humans evil, because they challenge their beleifs, and their happiness and goals (The Great Journey)
 * The covenant see the flood as evil, because they challenge, their lands, beleifs, happness and goals (The great Journey, and possesions by attempting to steal it from them by possesing them.
 * The Flood see the humans as evil because they challenge their possesion (literally), health, happiness (maybe), goals (gaining more knowledge through possesion) and their way of life.
 * The Flood see the Covenant as evil, because they challenge their possesions, health, happiness, goals, and their way of life

So everyone is evil, what's wrong with that? But any way I personally think that Cortana has gone rampant, and she seeks to destroy all of the human kind. -sogy 12:03, 25 April 2007 CE