Talk:Sagittarius Arm

Onyx
Can we really assume Onyx's supposed placement in the Sagittarius Arm in the Warfleet map is exact? We know Zeta Doradus is a mere 38 LY away, an insignificant distance by galactic standards and hardly far enough to put it in another spiral arm than Earth. Halo has been known to adhere to real-world astronomy even when it would make sense to move stars around a bit (e.g. Epsilon Indi being 11 LY from Earth and the long trip to Harvest being caused by the alien geometry of slipspace), so I don't see why this case would be an exception. I think it would be much safer to assume the Warfleet map shows a rough ballpark for these Forerunner sites and maybe depicts them a bit further apart than they really would be for the sake of visual clarity, rather than to assume that Zeta Doradus has been relocated well over a thousand light-years away. --Tacitus (talk) 01:56, 10 September 2018 (EDT)


 * Crap. You're right. In real life it is close to where the Orion spur shoots off, but is still definitely within Orion.TheEld


 * The Warfleet map is not to scale and should not be used (as a map) except in the most broad, general sense of where Forerunner/Human objects are relative to one another. I fought hard to get the map more accurate or removed entirely from the book, but it was determined it would remain. I did get a few things nudged here and there but in reality, the galaxy is a HUGE place and you can't with any accuracy use giant icons on a 2-page spread and determine where things are. My hope is this page will mostly be ignored. - ScaleMaster117 (talk) 11:52, 10 September 2018 (EDT)


 * Thanks for the info. The huge icons aren't showing where things are, though. They have lines connecting them to dots. I'm sort of baffled why the dot couldn't be placed more accurately in this case for Zeta Doradus.TheEld (talk) 13:05, 10 September 2018 (EDT)TheEld


 * Thank you for the info. I'm not a huge fan of some of the decisions on that map myself so it's good to have my reservations about its accuracy substantiated. --Tacitus (talk) 12:38, 10 September 2018 (EDT)


 * To TheELd, what I mean is the dots as a white circle with the black circle around them are still covering a space on the map about 500 light years in radius, which is about the general area of all the known Halo fiction stars so far that we know with a few outliers. It's hard to show even stars relative to one another on a map that size. They knew that at that scale Earth and Onyx would be pretty much touching, but they wanted to show an overview of items on the map, but it wasn't feasible to do so, which is why I wanted the page axed. I have the beginnings of a Halo map that portrays the known Haloverse and real stars with a 500 light year radius and I have about 300 stars on my map. Earth isn't even well-defined in the Warfleet map as it has no dot. -ScaleMaster117 (talk) 17:52, 10 September 2018 (EDT)


 * Holy shit, I would love to see that.TheEld (talk) 19:23, 10 September 2018 (EDT)TheEld