Forum:Who do you think has the highest rank? Kurt, Fred, or Master Chief?

Currently Kurt is the highest rank (being Lieutenant) and then Master Cheif then Fred is last.

No. Kurt died defending the other SPARTANs on Onyx, and he promoted Fred to Lieutenant, which is a higher rank than Master Chief Petty Officer, which is what Master Chief is.

Oh ye, i think thats a bit unfair though considering MC earned his rank for a better reason then Fred who just got it cause he ws there at right time!!

When dead, u usualy keep the rank. But others are higher ranked than him now cos the deceased is obviusly unable to be promoted.
 * Their ranks: Kurt: Lieutenant Commander (KIA). Fred: Lieutenant (Junior Grade). John: Master Chief Petty Officer. Thats the only order there is. -- ED ( talk )(gaming) 21:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

MC is the leader of the Spartans, as is said in FoR "make him squad leader" Fred and Kurt are both Spartans (was, in Kurts case) so MC is the boss of them,

SPARTAN-077(Talk) 22:35, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

No, Fred and John would fallow the ranks, meaning fred could boss John around but i dont think Fred will have the chance anytime soon.--''' UHSO. LT. COL. "Running   Riot"   Ryan    BAM' '' 16:31, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

But considering the fact that Kurt isn't really the leader of Blue Team, John is, however, symbolicaly, Kurt is a Spartan technically, but he is kinda in NavSpecWep, which means he commands NavSpecWep guys, not Spartans, even though the Spartans' orders may come from NacSpecWep, to clear up the fact, Halsey and Mendez made John Squad Leader so he could command all the Spartans, not so they could command him

Hawkeye out! --SPARTAN-077(Talk) 02:38, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Fred... --  B le m o http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif ''Talk •  Contributions   • Semper Fi

Since Kurt and Fredric are officers and John (Master Chief) is not, John is the lowest-ranking. Anyway, Fredric was Lieutenant, Junior Grade at the end of GoO, which is subordinate to Kurt's Lieutenant Commander, but Kurt died, so I'm a little confused. Does a dead officer retain his rank? That will answer this debate. Respect them Grunts, M  o  u  s  e   05:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Well since Lieutenant Commander Kurt Ambrose is dead...Fred is the highest ranking Spartan-II. But after the war, John should be promoted to Commander or Captain. With all other Spartans being Lieutenants. (CommanderTony).

MC isn't the highest ranking spartan, but he should be for all the things he did! E.T.

Technically, Master Chief and the other Spartans aren't even soldiers, Petty Officer is a Navy rank! Master Chief should be commanding a ship! In the books, Master Chief always make a commotion about being and not being "soldierly" none of the Spartans are soldiers, they're in the Navy

Hawkeye out! --SPARTAN-077(Talk) 20:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh yea, it is a navy rank! E.T.

Let's Get Some Things Straight...
Alright, if Kurt was still alive, the ranking would be K, F, J. But since he isn't, it's F, J. As for John being a squad leader, that's for Blue Team Missions, which if Fred felt so inclined, he could even supersede that. He was made squad leader during boot camp, and that only applies to Blue Team Missions, like I said. Also, if I'm not mistaken, Kurt started out as a Marine with the rest of the Spartans, the whole Spartan project was then taken over by the Navy (search "SPARTAN-II Project" in wikipedia), and then when chosen to be the head of the SPARTAN-III project, he was promoted to Lt. in the Marines. Therefore, I would think Fred's promotion would make him a Marine also. Master Chief would be the lowest rank in any case, Navy or Marines. So, as for the little argument on who controls who, it's neither. There is rarely a time when a Marine soldier commands a Navy one. (or vice-versa)

Echelon3 08:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * There would be no reason to put Kurt in the Marines--there's a Lieutenant rank in the Navy, too, so there's no reason to believe either way... unless it actually says, in GoO, that he was transferred to the Navy? g ü é ß Ł ¥ -π é Ґ <font color="#0000ff">∫ <font color="#0000cc">ø <font color="#000066">ñ <font color="#000000">¥ -<font color="#000000">† <font color="#007700">ħ <font color="#00cc00">î <font color="#00ff00">И <font color="#44ff44">g <font color="#99ff99">¥  08:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, either way, I don't think it really matters. Because a Marine Lt. is higher than MCPO and so is a Navy Lt. The chain of command would be the same either way.

Echelon3 19:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * But he was promoted to Lieutenant, Junior Grade, wasn't he? That's equal to a Marine First Lieutenant. If he was a plain Lieutenant, he'd be equal to a Marine Captain. Respect them Grunts, M  o  u  s  e  [[Image:XtremeBoxer1.jpg|25px]] 06:04, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, if the Spartans are put on mission in squads, there may be a chance it will be J,K,F, since John is Squad Leader, he has the right to command those two, even if their ranks are superior than his. But when they are operating on their own, K, F, J will be a better. ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 01:41, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Isn't that one of the things I said in my first post?

Echelon3 02:00, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I have my own opinions, that's allΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ 02:05, 2 July 2007 (UTC)