User talk:The 888th Avatar

Redirecting
that'll be really useful, i never really got the hang of redirecting. thanks for the tip. CaptJim 07:28, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

but just to be sure i get it, if i'm redirecting tom to tommy, i add #REDIRECT tom to the tommy page? CaptJim 15:15, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * If you're redirecting A to B, add #REDIRECT B to page A. That's kind of what you said, right? The 888th Avatar  (Talk) 15:17, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey, why is your avatar say "man"?


 * yeah. one more thing: how do i delete a redirect? there's a character named carson in the cole protocol, but carson already redirects to a page that has nothing to do with carson.CaptJim 15:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * If you want a redirect deleted, you'll have to request an admin to do it. The 888th Avatar  (Talk) 22:58, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

RE: Plasma Rifle
Problem is that we don't have the time to input a reason of our actions, seeing that we're caught up with other issues such as managing the Wiki.- 5 ub7 ank (7alk ) 09:58, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The truth is that Halopedia actually has quite a small amount of active users compared to the overall amount of users registered (Around 10%-ish who are active?). :P Also, unless the contribution is a major one, I wouldn't supply a reason for my actions... but that's just me... :P- 5 ub7 ank (7alk ) 10:21, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

RE: Edit summaries
roger that

Yeah
Hello there,

I really don't need your guidance on the issue. Talk pages may be deleted if the content can be addressed rightfully, and or the content is summed up already in the article. Thank you, but no thanks...

Rawr, General  Tony ,  Administrator of Halopedia  Talk 3/10/2009

image
i dont understand what is wrong with image--Noname the hero 05:41, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Signature
It's ok. I like this one better anyway. And about the SCoH; I can handle two user groups, and I need to become a Senator for several reasons, the least of which it needs three to be active, and there's no better candidates that were as familiar with the Standards Council as I am and was when it was founded and active. Plus, I really feel that I need to revive it. — K o  u  g  e  r  m  a  s  t  e  r  s  05:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. By the way, do you like my new sig? — K o  u  g  e  r  m  a  s  t  e  r  s  05:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: User Page
I asked him to do it cause I am busy editing, and I was too lazy to do it myself... My awards were on my Other Stuff page and my User Page, and I decided I wanted it on my Other Stuff Page. But now, I might has well have moved it myself. — Ko ug  er  ma  st  er  s ,  Lo  rd   of   Va  li  nor  11:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It's ok :D I would do the same for anyone else. — Ko ug  er  ma  st  er  s ,  Lo  rd   of   Va  li  nor  11:32, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:Sitenoticeid
Ah yes, good observation. It was early in the morning where I live and I was trying to hit all the Wiki's I am an Administrator on. Thank you!! --Councilor Εw C 'Dnaudee  Battle Net My Editcount Administration 20:42, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Game articles
You didn't want me to use pictures on categories or disambigs. Is it alright if I use them in articles?

Please see the following using the sidebar-menu: Halo Game Play › Weapons.

Thank you, and I hope you don't delete my article this time! See ya.

Drtomjenkins 22:05, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Feel free to correct me in the future! -- Drtomjenkins 22:12, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
I got my account a grand total of 6 hours ago, and I never really looked into whether there was a tutorial or anything...

[edit] forget my signature! -- Nutarama 07:16, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Cool! Thanks again!

RE: Edit summary on Mgalekgolo article
Disorient is a word. American usage, same way you use disorientate. They mean the same thing.  Smoke Sound off! 04:40, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Is it? My bad then... Wjxhuang,  the 888th Avatar  {Talk} 04:41, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Strider
Hello 88avatar. I am from wikianswers and i have seen you there.-- Strider 6583 69398  03:00, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Starting off on lists
Would you help and authorize me to start off on the 2nd idea here?

Because I have absolutely no idea about where I can help, save the list of Under Construction pages that I have nothing to contribute to. Is this because "everything" important in the Halo games have already been seen and done (written and illustrated) in this wiki?

Thank you, and looking forward to making myself useful, in a good way! -- Tom Jenkins (Reply) 14:08, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Response to your "community encyclopaedia" comment
I would like to point out that, according to pages from after the 'fork', the decision to change the layout into a 'community encyclopaedia' was in reference to an encyclopaedia on elements of the Halo fan community, as opposed to an encyclopaedia edited by the community - an easy mistake to make. I felt that this comment would be too trivial to add into the already enlargened forum page where the comment in question is already a tree for other branch-comments.--  Fore  run  ner '' 20:28, April 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * I know exactly what was meant by "community encyclopedia". I have read the old discussions and forums. My objection is that the encyclopedia should be edited by a community, in any case &mdash; not subject to the whims of a select few whose core interests are not here. The 888th Avatar   (talk)  23:17, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Hi.
Thanks for the welcome. LED ZEPPELIN FOREVER!!! 00:21, April 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem. Enjoy the wiki. :) The 888th Avatar   (talk)  00:22, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, sorry Phalanx Actual 23:08, April 9, 2011 (UTC)

'What happened to Halopedia'
I would like to point out that my recent locking of the above blog page was not of any malicious intent, but to stop, what I felt was, a continued war over whether or not Wikia should be involved heavily in the wiki, along with further criticism - considering the blog title, this had little to do with its intent.

Continuing, I wish to talk to you further over the policy amendment idea I mentioned. Since I was granted SysOp rights, I have made alterations to policy to be more in-line with Wikipedia - ironically, though, some of these update made the site look more bureaucratic. One of my ideas was to move 'move' and 'deletion' consensuses to their own articles - this way, once the debate is over, we can lock the page and be free of late-voters trying to change it months later (it's happened before). Moving back to the start of this paragraph, I wish to have further discussion over my recent proposal. --  Fore  run  ner '' 15:47, April 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * My apologies - I was under the assumption that CommanderTony's retirement was final. --  Fore  run  ner '' 15:49, April 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry to interrupt Forerunner, but I never retired from Halo Nation. My special duties as an Administrator (deletion, blocking, protection, granting rights, etc.) ended when Sannse unjustly removed my userrights, along with those of Subtank and Nicmavr. However, as she failed to properly handle the situation (in my humble opinion), I have continued my duties of an Administrator to the best of my abilities with the limited resources at my disposal. The Wikia interference and obvious managerial duties needed by Halo Nation lead me to believe that it needs my skills. Whatever reservations I had in the past have been put aside and I intend to fully carry out my duties that i've been doing around the clock since January 4th, 2008.


 * Sorry about the argument that I caused on the blog post. Unfortunately, you didn't lock comments by protecting it &mdash; that has to be done by editing the blog page and unticking the "Comments" option. ;)


 * I'm definitely open to discussion about policy amendments, and I do agree with your idea. Would you be able to flesh it out a bit more though? The 888th Avatar   (talk)  15:53, April 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, Forerunner, there does happen to be a neat way to prevent users from digging up old threads on forums &mdash; there is a javascript function that I use that disables the edit button for forum threads older than 30 days, with an accompanying addition to the forum header template that places a notice on the forum page saying that it is archived. Do you think that would be helpful? The 888th Avatar   (talk)  16:06, April 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * I noticed one of those on the community wiki - I thought they were available here, already.--  Fore  run  ner '' 16:11, April 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure.

The way how I see the situation is that the current Halo Nation is overly-bureaucratic and has too much power in the hands of its administrators. I propose a reform more in-key with Wikipedia - while it remains bureaucratic in nature, not following content policy (eg. poorly-written blogs) will not involve deletion or blocks, but notifications. Many of the wiki's users are not familiar with the rules, and probably dismiss the pop-ups immediately. I feel that notifying people not aware of policy will make them more likely to ask more experienced users for help - simply deleting pages and moving on will just lead to a second blog (eg. "WTF WHO DELTEDED MY PAEGEZ!!!!!!!!") or the much-remembered emotionally-powered troll attacks on user talk pages (eg. "UNDELETE MY PAGE CMANDRTONY OR I WIL KIL U N UR MOM LOL!" - very similar to what I have actually encountered on wikis, minus homosexual and racist jokes). If we build up a relationship with the community, we can help them become better editors.
 * My apologies - I have run out of time and must go, now. I will continue later on when I have the chance and be able to answer any of your questions which you put forward in the meantime. Good day.--  Fore  run  ner '' 16:11, April 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Considering the same method you stated above works greatly on Halopedian.com, it's obvious that Halo Nation is a new and fresh community with no real strong ties to it's Administration. Notifications following deletions of highly unneeded articles, blogs, forum threads, user-content, etc. does sound more reasonable as things are only picking up momentum and the user base is just getting used to the site. As for building relationships and making better editors, it's a double edged sword in many ways. First, you have the dull side that caters to unknowing users that wouldn't know any better (save for reading guidelines). And on the other side, you have the sharp side with "tough love" for known troublemakers one is simply trying to properly make into a great editor yet again. This methodology has worked for me ever since I was granted my rights, and many users on both Halopedia and Halo Fanon have become successful contributors to both wikis and the Halo community as a whole. It was hard to read your intentions at first Avatar, and while we both acted a bit improper, i'm glad that you explained yourself to the wiki and myself. Feel free to discuss any possible changes you may have on my talk page or on my IRC. Thank you.


 * Forerunner: I completely agree with those suggestions. :)
 * CommanderTony: I think the best way to go is to differentiate between users who don't know and users who do know but ignore policy. Those who fall into the former should receive polite notifications with links to guidelines that they should read. The latter should be warned and eventually be blocked. I apologise as well for any improper conduct on my behalf. :) The 888th Avatar   (talk)  00:19, April 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * All is forgived brother. As for your suggestion, exactly what I was thinking about.

Halo wars
Why the hell did you undo the revision I edited on halo wars? Anyone can see that flame marines are pyromaniacs! Look at the in game description if you aren't sure and stop redoing my edits! Spirit Slasher 11:28, April 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * "Pyromaniac" isn't a very encyclopedic description of them, unless they are actually clinicially diagnosed as pyromaniacs. The 888th Avatar   (talk)  01:28, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

UNSC-Bot
First off thank you, I thought every admin has a bot. I was a bit tired of editting away all those links. Again, thanks Wilc0 11:55, May 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Your bot is visible on the Recent Change menu, but can I disable that for me? I'm busy replacing other links and I flood at least as much as your bot. If I could (permanently) be invisible on the recent change menu I (and many other users) would be happy. Can you do that for me? Wilc0 12:34, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I'm not a bot, but I think many people think that about me :-P. Then I'll just continue the flooding. But could you do me a favor and put my request for invisibility somewhere where the higher-ups can see it? Thank you very much. Wilc0 12:40, May 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Would you be so kind to let your bot also loose on this site? There are 500+ UNSC redirect links... Much appreciated. Commander Grade One.png  Wilc0 When in doubt, flee.[[Image:NL flag.jpg|20px]]  (Talk page)  10:04, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

Re:bot
Yes, I do have a bot, actually - it's rather unintelligently named ForeBot. I intend on using it to make titling changes in links - eg. Articles on something that we previously didn't know the name of may still be linked as a generic 'unidentified...'. It currently lacks a bot flag as I was preparing to go through the bot-request form for administratorial permission for full-use (I was allowed a few field-tests here and there, though). It is already in proper use with the flag on the Resident Evil Wiki and has helped cut down on the recent changes - I formerly had to make every minor change due to the wiki's small population.--  Fore  run  ner '' 17:28, May 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ahh... so should I continue running mine as well? Or will you be fine using yours? The 888th Avatar   (talk)  04:53, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

888th Bot
Can't you sanction your bot, because I think a bot can't be (nearly) on top of the leaderboard just because it edits a lot. And I think I speak for more when I say that your bot really floods the recent changes list...


 * Well, a bot flag would remove it from the leaderboard and make its edits invisible. To get one, I need community approval, and I should probably run it by Forerunner as well. The 888th Avatar   (talk)  14:12, May 10, 2011 (UTC)

Bot linking to categories
While it does good work most of the time, I've noticed one problem with your bot. When fixing links like weapons or vehicles to link to the categories weapons and vehicles, it leaves the colon before the "category" part out; i.e. instead of vehicles it becomes. This is problematic because it leads to the page being placed into that category instead of creating a proper link. Hope you could get that fixed, thanks. --Jugus (Talk  | Contribs ) 10:53, 31 May 2011 (EDT)