Forum:Free Team Halopedia, Democracy Now!

Free Team Halopedia
Team Halopedia is presently run by a ruling elite of outsider wringers that have oppressed the true Halopedian's long enough! Only Halopedian's should be on Team Halopedia and the Team Leader should be elected by the community just like HOTM or the Fan Art Committee. If you are a true Halopedian and don't want your chance of playing Bungie to riped away from you by outsiders who don't even care about Halopedia then vote for a leader for Team Halopedia and vote to approve Proposition 7, that only Halopedians can be on Team Halopedia. -- Yamanba 10:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Erhm. Are you accusing me of oppression? Well, just two brief points:
 * 1. There were 6 team members. Five of them are "hardcore" Halopedians that have had accounts for several months before the team's start: CaptainAdamGraves, Spartan 387, Guesty-Persony-Thingy, Donut THX 1138, and RelentlessRecusant. There is only one "outsider wringer", ICUCME Sin Vida, and even he has a Halopedia account.
 * 2. There is no more "Team Halopedia". It's all over.
 * 3. There were two heads, as much as you'd like to portray it as one, me. There was myself, RR, and GPT.
 * Cheers,
 * Gho st I nsi de the M ach ine ''(Whisper through the Storm ) (My Journeys ) (Omens ) 12:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


 * For some reason the term cry more comes to mind here... -- TheObviousOne 13:17, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Ahhh so you admit that you brought in outsiders at the expense of innocent Halopedians ~Oh the shame~. If you're given up your position as dictator of Team Halopedia then you'll have no problem holding free elections then.  As for Team Halopedia being over, were you only see defeat, I see a future of a free democratic Team Halopedia fighting other clans and maybe even convincing Bungie to fight us again. -- Like what EVER [[image:rolleyes.gif]] 23:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Nope I'm saying you whine about little things too much (No offense meant, just what I'm hearing) Oh you're talking to RR... For future reference, try not to post under me unless you're talking directly at me. Flame On -- TheObviousOne 01:42, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Here's my take on the whole matter (nope, not a direct response to TheObviousOne, but below him for organizational purposes). "Ahhh so you admit that you brought in outsiders at the expense of innocent Halopedians" He admited to having one "outside" in the group, outsiders is thuse an unfair term. And what "innocent Halopedians" are you talking about? I see two people on the waiting list, and neither looks like the hardcore Halopedians you say RR is wronging. I don't know much on the subject, but if your going to make accusations, enough of this subtle alluding to certain people, out and give some names. Who are these multiple "outsiders" that RR has brought in, and the expense of which "innocent Halopedians"? One last thing. The topic is "Free Team Halopedia, Democracy Now!" but then below it is suggested that "only Halopedians who have at least 77 edits can be part of the Team and that outsiders are banned." Isn't that a tad contradictory?
 * --Master Gunnery Sergeant Hank J Wimbleton IVCOM 04:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

And what "innocent Halopedians" are you talking about?


 * Yeah there was all of Team Forgotten, all the people who didn't sign up for Forgotten (Look at all the Halopedian's on the tryout lists) and just gave up OR what really gets me:Caboose was told to not even bother trying out because she was a girl, "someone told me to go way or to hell ... and kicked me off -- Caboose".

77 edits can be part of the Team and that outsiders are banned." Isn't that a tad contradictory?


 * So by your logic, being a foreigner and not being allowed to vote in a countries elections isn't dmeocracy? I guess America isn't a democracy because German's can't vote in American elections!

Team Forgotten. I see. I also see that three of them wouldn't even make this 77 edits rule you have suggested. Wouldn't they qualify as "outsiders"? And I'd like to know who told Caboose she couldn't join just because she was a girl. As far as my logic is concerned, talking about a "free" Halopedia but it seems that many of the people who didn't make Team Halopedia were "true Halopedians" being opressed by Team Halopedia, so I grabbed some statistics.


 * Team Forgotten
 * Porkbutt: 48
 * Gzalzi: 157
 * Darth tader: 331
 * Shoe shot: 60
 * Ryanngreenday: 2386
 * Digipatd: 146
 * 2401 PT: 36


 * Team Halopedia
 * RelentlessRecusant: 9531
 * CaptainAdamGraves: 445
 * Guesty-Persony-Thingy: 1987
 * Donut THX 1138: 1993
 * Spartan 387: 245
 * Icucme: 60


 * Team Haloepdia Waiting List
 * LaxKid: 52
 * Shishno: 20


 * Tried Out; Currnetly No Team; Not on Waiting List
 * Terin: 68
 * SPARTAN-410: 20
 * J!MMY8806: 624
 * Spartan-118: 81
 * Dragonclaws: 5418
 * JohnSpartan117: 803
 * SPARTAN-137: 272
 * Rusty Charlie: 6
 * Mouse among men: 393
 * Dojorkan: 407
 * Halo dude6464: 2
 * OpsY: 5
 * Maximus2610: 5
 * PoSsEdPeNgUiN: 3
 * Sarge5: 8
 * ODST27: 15

Caboose is the only person I left off the list because her situation is different, and I would like for it to be looked into further. Of the above people, there are five with an edit count above 200. On Team Halopedia, there is one with a post count below 200, and RR has admited that he brought Icucme in already. And usually clans are based around a mix of activity and skill. I don't know how well any of these people did at try outs, or if they even showed up, but obviously there was some reason some got picked and others didn't. I don't know the situation all too well, so excuse me if I forgot someone.
 * --Master Gunnery Sergeant Hank J Wimbleton IV COM 00:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Nominees
Please update as necessary...

Votes

 * CaptainAdamGraves rules with a fair fist is an excellent Halo player and is good leadership material. -- Yamanba 10:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Proposition 7
Proposition 7 will add a rule into the Team Halopedia charter that only Halopedians who have at least 77 edits can be part of the Team and that outsiders are banned.

Votes
Approve (3)


 * Approve - I support my fellow Halopedians -- Yamanba 10:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Approve - Me to. Then my clan should fight you guys. But only after we'er more better as a team. -- Lieutenant   Colonel   ryan  n  green  day 19:47, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral Not entering an arguement. This seems a pretty childish thing to be arguing aboot. -- TheObviousOne 01:44, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Abstain - I'm with TheObviousOne on this one. This is childish. Master Gunnery Sergeant Hank J Wimbleton IVCOM 04:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Approve - I believe the first one was handled incorrectly. A new system should be put in place if we should ever play against anyone again. 77 sounds like a lot, though. Perhaps just 49? That should be enough to deter passerbys, but would not be as daunting to a newbie. -- Dragonc laws ( talk ) 00:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Neutral, I don't know but alteast have it proposistion 5, 55 edits is better. Darth tader,Talk to the Tader,My work 00:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Approve--Grievous797 01:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

My take on things
Outsider wringers? If being Halopedian of the Month, spending all your time here just to make Halopedia better, and doing all I can with Team Halopedia makes me an outsider wringer, then what, pray tell, are you? Saying that he didn't bring anybody in and that five out of six were highly respected Halopedians is not the same as "admit[ing] that [he] brought in outsiders at the expense of innocent Halopedians." Rather, it's saying that he didn't bring anybody in, and it's not his fault they were good at Halo. BTW, Mr. Obvious, "flame on" is not a way of keeping things friendly. If that's all these forums are going to be used for, "flam[ing] on," then I really think we shouldn't have them. Team Forgotten was just a name, apparently a bad name, but not a name to make people who signed up for it feel bad; it was just for those people who were not among the best six at Halo. Neither Relentless nor myself said that to Caboose, and it was probably just someone else who didn't make it, as I'm led to believe. I'm not anti-feminist, and neither is Relentless; there are just a couple of "innocent Halopedians" who are, and who didn't make it onto Team Halopedia, partially because of their not being quite as good as others at Halo, and partially because of their bad attitude. And about outsiders: Outsiders are people who are not a part of this community, who only joined to be in Team Halopedia so they could play Bungie, who don't care for Halopedia. Out of the people that made it, I know that at least half of them are a part of this community, joined way before Team Halopedia, and care about the quality of the articles here and, more importantly, their friendships here. And as for the 77 edit thing, it says something about people who have more than 77 edits, and something about outsiders. What about non-outsiders who have less than 77 edits? And so you're saying that you want to ban from Halopedia anyone with under 77 edits? Or banned from something else? You mean not let on Team Halopedia? If the latter is what you're saying, then go ahead, kick ICUCME off the team, get someone else in his place. But I'm just going to tell you right now, Team Halopedia was only supposed to be for the Humpday match, which never happened, and probably never will, so you might as well just give it a rest. And to add to it's probably never will, I am going to email KP about this mess right now, say not to bother with Humpday against Halopedia, and apologize for this entire cockup. That's all I have to say.  guesty - persony - thingy  I too am an AI... my owner's name is Supreme Honcho. 21:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC)


 * That sound pretty imature to me. Bungie probably cares not at all about the politics of Halopedia, why they would mistifies me. It was not as if the politics stopped the Humpday from working out. And besides who made it on the team, a bunch of non-Halopedians signed up for tryouts, so it's not as unfounded as you say. It was also previously said that Team Halopedia (or a system like it) could be used again for a match against another site. Just because the Humpday didn't work out, doesn't mean it's retired for good. -- Dragonc laws ( talk ) 22:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


 * So Dragonclaws, what you're saying is that RR was supposed to somehow stop non Halopedians from trying out, correct? Just edit them off the tryouts list, tell them their too new to try out. If nothing else, let them try out, and then tell them that they didn't make the team, but don't bar them from even trying.
 * --Master Gunnery Sergeant Hank J Wimbleton IV COM 01:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Somehow, such as by posting a rule "must have been here a month or have at least # edits." Letting them tryout while having previously determined to fail them is (IMO) cruel, and not at all what I am suggesting. -- Dragonc laws ( talk ) 06:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Exactly. Set a minimum number of edits, and then when everyone agrees on that, open up fair tryouts, or as fair as we can get without everyone just saying "I want to be in so I don't want you to be in." g u e <font color="#ff0000">s <font color="#ff3333">t <font color="#ff6666">y -<font color="#9999ff">p <font color="#6666ff">e <font color="#3333ff">r <font color="#0000ff">s <font color="#0000cc">o <font color="#000066">n <font color="#000000">y -<font color="#000000">t <font color="#007700">h <font color="#00cc00">i <font color="#00ff00">n <font color="#44ff44">g <font color="#99ff99">y  [[Image:GPersonyThingy.jpeg|19px]] 07:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm not trying to be immature, I'm just letting them know it's all been cocked up. I never said they cared, which is why I'm just apologizing and saying nevermind, at least until we can get everything straightened out. As for matches against other sites, I'd love too, if everyone would stop making such a big deal out of it. If you didn't make it, go practice some more. If you think someone made it who was too new, say something earlier. If everyone would just do that, we could avoid complications like this. <font color="#000000">g <font color="#770000">u <font color="#cc0000">e <font color="#ff0000">s <font color="#ff3333">t <font color="#ff6666">y -<font color="#9999ff">p <font color="#6666ff">e <font color="#3333ff">r <font color="#0000ff">s <font color="#0000cc">o <font color="#000066">n <font color="#000000">y -<font color="#000000">t <font color="#007700">h <font color="#00cc00">i <font color="#00ff00">n <font color="#44ff44">g <font color="#99ff99">y  [[Image:GPersonyThingy.jpeg|19px]] 07:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah don't email Bungie, why do they need to know?  What possible purpose could that serve?   As for the minimum number of edits, 50 sounds like a nice round number or 47, or 57 so that we can make it more Bungie with the 7 -- Esemono 14:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Just letting them know, in case they think of trying to do it again; we're having problems with who's on the team, so don't bother until further notice. Just letting them know, no immaturity attempted to be implied. As for edits and all that, last time, before anyone knew of the Humpday challenge, I'd say you'd have to have been registered before anyone even mentioned it, so we knew you weren't just here for that. Now, however, I don't know... maybe, if you want to participate, for example, in a Halopedia vs. CoB events, you must have been registered at least, I dunno, a week maybe, before anyone even mentioned playing against CoB, excluding this occasion, which is only as an example. And, you must have had at least 20 edits before it was announced, 50 edits by the time of the actual match. Sound good? <font color="#000000">g <font color="#770000">u <font color="#cc0000">e <font color="#ff0000">s <font color="#ff3333">t <font color="#ff6666">y -<font color="#9999ff">p <font color="#6666ff">e <font color="#3333ff">r <font color="#0000ff">s <font color="#0000cc">o <font color="#000066">n <font color="#000000">y -<font color="#000000">t <font color="#007700">h <font color="#00cc00">i <font color="#00ff00">n <font color="#44ff44">g <font color="#99ff99">y  [[Image:GPersonyThingy.jpeg|19px]] 18:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. As for the 50-ish number, 49 sounds good because it's 72. -- Dragon<font color="FF0000">c laws ( talk ) 20:02, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, that covers who's eligible to try out and play, but what about who actually makes it? Apparently we can't have tryouts with one judge, even if he was the one who suggested it in the first place. Some sort of democracy thingy, mb? <font color="#000000">g <font color="#770000">u <font color="#cc0000">e <font color="#ff0000">s <font color="#ff3333">t <font color="#ff6666">y -<font color="#9999ff">p <font color="#6666ff">e <font color="#3333ff">r <font color="#0000ff">s <font color="#0000cc">o <font color="#000066">n <font color="#000000">y -<font color="#000000">t <font color="#007700">h <font color="#00cc00">i <font color="#00ff00">n <font color="#44ff44">g <font color="#99ff99">y  23:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

All this talk of XBL makes me want it so bad...I feel so left out :'( ayyyyyyyyyyy    --Kwarsh [ Talk to me! ] - [ Stuff I've done! ] 18:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)