Forum:Getting rid of the new features

Alright, so, this is a petition for any user that believes that the new features are a bad thing.

These are my reasons for believing that they are a very bad thing.


 * 1) The new users. Yes, new users should be good right? But, here, it backfired. Crap edits, fake edits, and a rift in the community has been sparked. Article quality has plummeted, and, instead of being a wikia, Halopedia has turned into a social networking site.
 * 2) The Blogs, polls, and quizzes. Used properly, they could be a great tool for getting points across, and to challenge knowledge. However, the nubs have shown up, misused them, and now, they're just a tool for spam and crap.
 * 3) The friends. What's up with the massive friend requests? I mean... I liked it better back in the day when you solidified your friendship with a userbox, a custom made box that you made yourself. Now, what's a better gift than that?
 * 4) The gifts. The gifts used to be personalized awards that users gave to each other. People made them themselves, put in their own flair and personality.

So, anyone who agrees with me, or has another reason to think the features are bad, comment below, and vote! -- The Sarge My Comm LineWhat I've done 23:20, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Support
-- The Sarge My Comm LineWhat I've done 23:13, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Delta-269 23:15, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Grievous797 23:18, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

For the community! Pryo 'Zarkum  Battle NetMy Work 23:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

This is TerminalFailure, and I fully support this proposal. TerminalFailure

Neutral

 * 1) I'm sorry, I'm just so used to this now . . . -- Kwarshinator - (contact) - (contribs) - (edit count)  23:26, 28 April 2008 (UTC)


 * 1) I think the features should be restricted, but not removed. [[Image:Haloforgheisonvv4.gif|35px]] Stryker  117 [[Image:UNSCoH Dingo without letters.PNG|30px]] 02:27, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) I think the new user should be informed of the real purpose of this wikia as a a edit site not just a network or chatting room but i all i dont have any problem with the new features C F 0 0 1 02:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Against
- I have to say that I think that the Blogs were a really good idea. Its just that the noobs are treating them like a Forum, which we already have. Perhaps if we made the Forum more accessible to the newcomers? On the Create Blog page, perhaps add: "Halopedia also maintains a Forum, if your topic is not long enough to warrant a Blog," or something similar? But definitely get rid of the polls. And restrict the quizzes to people with some decent edits under their belts. Don't get rid of them altogether. I promise you, if new users are a complaint they'll soon disappear when we rob them of their holy grail - the opportunity to show just how stupid they are. -- Specops306 ,  Kora 'Morhek  23:50, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

- This is a software program. Getting a piece of software to have its kinks worked out in under 6 months is like moving the sun: it doesn't happen. Mass release programs, such as Halo 3 and other Games - often go through rigorous testing beforehand including, of course, Beta testing - we didn't really get nearly the same luxury for we couldn't find all the ways the system might be abused. This system is now coming up on 2 months of deployment and while it has certainly had problems, it has also had some points that provide hope. The admins and Wikia are actively working together and along with much input from many, many members, they are looking to find the solutions to the various bugs. Yes, there might be a point when it is clear there's no way for this to be beneficial without problems, but I don't believe that we should be making this assumption a mere 2 months after deployment. I do believe this is promising and I think it would be a damn shame to crash this idea without fully evaluating it and looking at our options properly. --forgottenlord 03:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

- Yes, in the past I have criticized my decision to support these new features coming to Halopedia, and even more criticized the features themselves. And though we've had some very serious difficulties with the features usage and the new Junior Members. Though taking these features away will prove numerous problems in the future. Namely, the number of active Halopedians will probably drop down to 25% of the userbase. As well as lower the amount of potential users that are Halo fans and attracted to Halopedia and it's features. In addition, it would probably be one hell of a bitch to get all of the new software off of here, and switch back to Monobook or Quartz. And recently, i've seen the level of maturity and kindness increase across all of Halopedia, sans the recent so called "Sangheili vs. Jiralhanae War". And if we do take these features off...imagine the amount of spam, vandalism, personal attacks, and other crap that will happen. General  Tony ,  Administrator of Halopedia  Talk 5/01/2008

I like them.odst fan 01:07, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Here's something you didn't used to see . ..
The best edits on the site are from IPs. -- Kwarshinator - (contact) - (contribs) - (edit count)  23:22, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

True, but a lot of the newbies are hording points. Not to mention, due to this point system the usergroups are defunct.

One small thing...
I've talked with people at wikia, and it is possible to remove some features while keeping others. It's not an "all or nothing" type of thing. Tesfan 03:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, thank god! -- Specops306 ,  Kora 'Morhek  03:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Points
I think the points thing was a bad idea. Since only edits give you points now, why not just have an editcount at the top of your profile and be done with it? The points and ranks they give you are causing many newbies to make useless edits to hoard points. Stryker 117  02:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, I like the usergroup way of ranking better: grading based on quality, not quantity. [[Image:Haloforgheisonvv4.gif|35px]] Stryker  117 [[Image:UNSCoH Dingo without letters.PNG|30px]] 02:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)