Talk:Skirmisher Champion

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Is it possible that skirmisher champions can lead skirmisher lances? I've been trying to figure out as much as I can about Covenant deployment and ranks, and as far as I can tell trying to use Reach to figure it out doesn't really help because they're somewhat randomly deployed, and change depending on the difficulty, so I can't confirm by using the game. Although whether or not they do would be speculation at this point, unless it's been officially declared somewhere that they do or don't.-- Raiderdline61  "7777777"  18:54, 30 June 2011 (EDT)


 * The only example I can think of a large-scale, nearly exclusive Skirmisher deployment is on ONI Sword Base. I would assume the highest ranking skirmisher of this group is the leader (and if there are more than one of the same at the top rank, it is most likely that one is given tactical command, like an "acting captain" in modern navies.) It is also possible they do not have a leader at all, and simply work together, recieving orders from comm systems. Do you mean if Champions themselves can lead? They are the highest rank in the Skirmishers, so I would assume as much they can. For future reference, Heroic is considered the cannon difficulty, so base your observations on that. pestilence   Phil,  pestilence!  19:30, 30 June 2011 (EDT)

Okay, thanks.-- Raiderdline61  "7777777"  23:07, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

Skirmisher Champion and Murmillo
As shown in this game, the golden unshielded skirmishers are the champions, and the shielded ones are the murmillos. Hyper Zergling 23:06, 28 September 2011 (EDT)

Of Murmillones and Champions
Recently, Iv'e made a thread about how I believe we mixed the Murmillo and Champion Ranks. I recieved positive replies, and Subtank suggested that I go ahead and change these articles.

So, in one week, I'm going to do it. Here are my arguments for it:

1.) Not only are they worth more points, but also the Firefight Score Board lists the Gold Skirmishers as Leaders. Orange Shielded Skirmishers, however, are listed as Specialists alongside Commandoes.

2.) The real life Murmillo Gladiators themselves used shields. This would make it a poor name for the Gold Skirmishers, who lack them.

3.) Gold Skirmishers' armor is not only gold (Which suggests very high rank to begin with), but is also more intricate. Just look at Jackal, Grunt, Elite, and Brute armor featured in Reach; the higher the rank, the more intricate the armor is.

4.) The Strategy Guide itself is full of errors. For instance, it mixes up Captain Keyes and Colonel Holland. For another, it calls the CCS-Battle Cruiser that was going to fry the Pillar of Autumn as a Corvette. We shouldn't have it as a "Go-To" when it comes to names.

5.) The McFarlane Figure of the Orange Shielded Skirmisher is called Murmillo. It can't be a typo; this is a name of a mass produced toy line of a popular series. Not only that, but McFarlane uses notes and computer models of Bungie and 343 Studios, meaning that they are getting their information for their products directly from the source. It is not comparable to something like a minor foot note in an encyclopedia.

So, if nobody gives me any convincing counter claims until next weekend, I'm going to change the Champion and Murmillo. Missing Mandible 16:52, 20 October 2011 (EDT)