Forum:Halopedia is a joke.

No citing of confirmation that the structure in the 06 announcement trailer IS indeed the ark, with mentions of it indeed being the ark all over the wikipedia.

The E3 07 trailer page is littered with speculation stated as facts with no citing.

Is this a source for Halo facts or is it a place where speculation turns to fact?

Laughtrey 16:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm almost 100% sure that Bungie confirmed that is was, indeed, the Ark.


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 * --KillerCRS: Your #1 source of made-up crap. [[Image:Mdance.gif|35px]][ Talk to me! ] - [ Stuff I've done! ] 16:41, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

--- Ha! The day Bungie releases any confirmation of significant campaign information is the day Jason Jones dies.

Laughtrey 16:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I guess I was wrong but... and  look awfully alike, do they not?


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Ummm...okay.SPARTAN 346 17:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Well I believe it's the ark, there are many reasons that I know that support it, and opinions that don't. Plus, ask yourself, what is that big ol ring if it's not the Ark. Darth tader,Talk to the Tader,My work 17:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

You can believe what it is all you want, until you play halo 3 or until bungie says so, you have no 100% sure fact that it is the ark.

Check out this joke on the SRS99C-S2_AM_Sniper_Rifle page:
 * For example, skilled users may crouch inside a confined hallway and fire without the use of the scope from close range, resulting in many instant kills. And although the rifle's description claims it has a slow rate of fire, it has an actually high rate of fire for a sniper rifle. Bottom line: If you don't kill them with the first shot, then they'll bite the dust on the next one. As an added bonus, the Sniper Rifle has a fast melee speed. One can even take out an Elite or Brute in close quarters with the sniper melee (Exclusive to Halo 2).

What does it matter how people use the sniper rifle in MP? That doesn't give facts about the weapon itself. Not to mention all the opinions in that block right there. Laughtrey 20:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


 * What is your problem guy? (CommanderTony) 7/15/2007


 * If you don't like what we have to say, DON'T COME HERE!! --[[Image:Final Goji.jpg|40px]] Lordofmonsterisland  "Roar to me"  21:49, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

If Halopedia is such a joke to you why don't ya just leave instead of being a troll--Spartan 913 21:58, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Seriously,if its such a joke,why are you here posting that.Most stuff that we don't know is about stuff that hasn't come out.We have it there so people have something to learn about and fill in the blank space when it comes out so other people can know it too.We don't know if that thing is the ARK or why there are clouds swirling above it,but thats because bungie hasn't told us yet.So you can just leave if you think it's a joke. SPARTAN 346 22:38, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The user has a very valid point. Halopedia just began citing sources a few months ago, and most editors don't bother citing specific sources about facts and begin adding blatant opionions. Thus, hundreds of our articles are still unsourced, and many more are a trainwreck of opinions, original research, and speculation. However, discussion will do nothing to fix this problem. Your defense of Halopedia is understandable, but we are a public wiki, and we will never be able to completely avoid such problems as the ones brought up here. -- ED ( talk )(gaming) 04:59, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

If you are a true Halo fan, you would not look at the status of Halopedia and complain. You would go to articles that need fixing(which you apparently have no difficulty finding) and fix them. You would create new articles with all the things that you complain others lack. At the very least, you would create a forum giving ideas of how Halopedia could be improved. But you on the other hand, come here and see all the flaws. Instead of fixing them, you make a forum and complain about them. If you don't like Halopedia, leave. If you see this for what it is, a community of Halo fans dedicated to making the ultimate source of Halo knowledge, then stop complaining and fix the flaws that you see so much of.  Phil.e.  [Talk to me] 05:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I would not be so harsh. Public criticism like this allows us to see what areas we are neglecting, which helps us improve. The user listed concerns in clear, coherent english (something too many contributors to Halopedia have a problem with) and even provided an example. That is something few would do, good intentions or not. -- ED ( talk )(gaming) 05:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You're right, that was pretty harsh. Sorry, I said what I meant to say, but it was....harsh. ;)  Phil.e.   [Talk to me] 06:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

RelentlessRecusant's Outlook
Dear sir,

You have a valid point. Halopedia has much to improve on, and often, anonymous users add misinformation to our pages. However, this is a place for open collaboration, and we also have a beautiful selection of articles on choice topics, especially those pertaining to the newest Halo 3 releases. I'm open to suggestions! :-)

Cheers,

Relen tless Recu sant 'o the Halopedia Team http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/a/ac/Fleet_Admiral.jpg TALK • SPEAK 22:49, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

--While I do agree that our pages are not the most precise sources of information, it is often difficult to come to a common conclusion on many things within the Halo universe. Bungie leaves many details unconfirmed, so much of the interpretation is left to the imagination/speculation of the reader/player. With your specific mention of the sniper rifle article, would you not agree that providing information on that particular weapon would include how it may be applied to all situations, including multiplayer? Even so, that piece of information can only be answered by more opinions and personal preference. Like all users, if you feel that a page contains invalid information, please feel free to add to the discussion page, or even edit what is necessary. I only ask that everyone do so in a professional manner. Pyromancer 00:27, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Fully concur. Cheers, Relen tless Recu sant 'o the Halopedia Team http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/a/ac/Fleet_Admiral.jpg TALK • SPEAK 00:28, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

The Right Wing's Thoughts
Yeah, some articles may need cleaning up, but just posting and complaining about it isn't gonna help. If you really thought it was a joke and were a fairly decent person you would either (A) help fix it up, or (B) not use Halopedia. Also, any Halo fan with an ounce of brains would take all of the Halo 3, Contact: Harvest, Halo Wars, etc info with a grain of salt, and not at face value, knowing that most facts haven't been released yet. So if you really think it needs help, why don't you join the party?

Regards,

Echelon 3 Talk to Me...I've got Candy.... 00:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Moderate things
I think it's simply a matter of monitoring pages that have been edited, and making sure they cite their sources correctly. I don't think it's one persons job to go through and fix all the mistakes either, but it can definitely be done.Laughtrey 18:02, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, I spend a considerable amount of time trying to help. How about you tell me some stuff you want worked on, and I'll do it! :-) Cheers, Relen tless Recu sant 'o the Halopedia Team http://images.wikia.com/halofanon/images/a/ac/Fleet_Admiral.jpg <font color="#A9A9A9">TALK • <font color="A9A9A9">SPEAK 18:31, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Spartan 1138's thoughts
This guy kinda has a good point. How many articals need references? How many have the FoF template on them? The answer, alot of them. It doesn't help that the weapons are more tactics than info on the weapon. Not to mention the IRC channel has gone to hell. Plus the vandals that make a showing as well. A childish admin that hold vandettas. I'm afraid to say it but Halopedia is going down hill, fast.-- Spartan 1138

R1e2u3b4e5n6's points
insults, <font color="6633FF">never ending-summer <font color="6633FF">My personal COM chanelAKA R1e2u3b4e5n6 08:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No.1. Where else is there a halo wiki?
 * No.2. You don't spam on people's forums just because you hate it.
 * No.3. You hate it, then ask to get banned.
 * No.4. Stop being a idoit. You don't go blaming people for bad wikis. This is bad? Check out other wikias(no insult)! A wiki is never good. People help to improve it. That is called a wiki community.
 * No.5. GET LOST!