Talk:Installation 04B

This is like Star Wars VI in that it is an unfinished superweapon capable of firing.

Who calculated the size becuase if it is a replacement for 04 shouln't it have a Diameter of 10,000 kilometers (6,210 miles)? ProphetofTruth 20:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

UNSC Fireing The Halo?
I thought the UNSC was trying to stop the halos not activate them

Spartan-117 activates halo to cause a local pulse to eliminate the local flood infestation. --Ajax 013 22:39, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

thanks --Sugarfreak50 23:02, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone else think that this article should be merged with installation 04, or should we leave it as is?Covenant Ghost 02:42, 9 December 2007 (UTC)


 * That same question came up on the original 04 page and they decided were against it, if I memory right --MCDBBlits 22:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


 * They are two different distinct Halos, thus two different articles. -- E D [[Image:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]] 06:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Probable taken time
Isn't that a speculation? Master Chief Petty Officer Spartan Contribution 13:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Indeed it is but I though it was useful and overlooked, that people don't really know anything about. I mean we all know what installations do, the environment and stuff like that, but we don't know the time taken to do this in, (you could say that is speculation what the environment on each ring is like) --Megidra 22:36, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

343 Rampancy
I think we can remove the speculation of 343 being programed to protect the installation above all else. If the forerunners decided to use a last ditch galactic annihilation approach its safe to presume they value containing flood over protecting their installations as evidenced by the Ark's programing to build more in the event of one's demise.

But the Ark was put in danger, without it no new Halos could be built. Also, you need to sign your posts. Smothmoth 22:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

what i don't understand...
is why it was out of range of the other instilations. why would it be made that way?

It would likely be sent through slipspace to it's predicesor's location, and was built outside of the galaxy becouse that's where the Ark is. 24.144.151.36 05:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Other Replacement Halos?
Ok, so we all know how Installation 04 (II) has different structures on it than the original. So what if the Ark already had designs for replacements for all the Halos before Installation 04 exploded? That would mean every Halo has a corresponding replacement design. Who thinks I might be on to something? HaloArray 22:00, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Also, here is further evidence. On Avalanche, the Ark and the Milky Way are missing, possibly meaning the Ark repaired itself, made another replacement, and sent it away back into the galaxy when the replacement was able to complete itself. That means that the Ark probably would already have pre-prepared designs in it, because otherwise it would probably look even more different every new copy. HaloArray 22:10, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

04 II or 04B
now, as to my knowledge, the name Installation 04 II has no canon reference, while 04B is used in the Halo Encyclopaedia the ruling on which is: use, unless there is something before that contradicts, so, if i'm wrong, where is 04B called "04 II?" --WhellerNG 20:28, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * You probably should've used the talk page before instead of undoing edits/moves without explanation. I didn't know the source, as I do not have the Halo Encyclopedia.  Smoke Sound off! 21:18, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, I thought the fact I cited the source was enough--WhellerNG 21:46, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Actual, in conventional naming, Installation 04A would refer to the second, B would be a third. NCC-1701-A USS Enterprise was the replacement to NCC-1701 USS Enterprise. If a house was separated, you'd get 1. Church lane and 1A. Church lane. The Simpson's had an Area 51A Airforce base.--  Fore  run  ner  22:43, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

What?
In the article it says "The ring was also not connected to the other Installations, allowing a tactical pulse to be fired without triggering the other 6 Installations. It is never revealed if this is an option available to completed installations as well although it is likely the second Installation 04 merely had not been set up with this network yet, as it was incomplete; a logical precaution considering the effects of a misfire." But you learn in Halo 2 that all the Halo rings CAN be fired together but only from the ark, meaning that they don't all fire if only one is activated. The mentioned paragraph needs to be removed as it's not a characteristic of the unfinished ring, it's just how the halo network works. 92.238.202.23 12:31, February 16, 2010 (UTC)

Status
The picture displaying the hologram of Installation 4...is this Installation 4, or 4B? I thought it was 4, and had red parts to indicate it was out of commission (aka destroyed), but then again, the red parts could mean incomplete areas of 4B.  ΘяɪɸɴF22  style="background-color:#787878; color:firebrick; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px">  Me  Talk    Contributions  style="background-color:#787878; color:gold; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:24px; -moz-border-radius-topright:24px">  CAG 15:12, April 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * It is very/most likely that it is the hologram of Installation 04B.-  5 əb'7 aŋk (7alk ) 15:15, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Why the hell doesnt raid on installation 04b have its own article
Basically what the title says, if raid on high charity can have its own article, why is there a title saying raid on installation 04b that only leads to installation 04b and not the battle itself why? --CookieMonstersayshello 06:54, 5 August 2011 (EDT)

I think that everyone agrees there should be, just everybody's too lazy (or just haven't gotten) to write it. If you want it so badly, then go ahead! Write it. I don't know man, but it keeps me up at night. Vegerot ( talk )  13:03, 5 August 2011 (EDT)

I will. --CookieMonstersayshello 07:46, 6 August 2011 (EDT) I tried, its not very good but its a start. --CookieMonstersayshello 08:02, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

Monitor
CookieMonster's edit just got me thinking. Is 343 Guilty Spark the "official" monitor of Installation 04B? The second 04 clearly uses the same codes as the original, as 343 can still operate it. But think about it. First of all, if 343 Guilty Spark didn't somehow contact the Ark before the replacement was built, then wouldn't Installation 00 have assumed that he was destroyed, and have made a new one. Second, when Spark was chatting with the Monitor of the Ark, the Monitor (or whatever thing was warning Spark) there made no mention what-so-ever of the new Halo. Meaning three things, either 1. Spark was talking to another sub-routine of the Monitor, which had nothing to do with Installation 04B, so that part of the Monitor wouldn't have told him. Or 2. It was never planning on telling him about it, because it had already (or in the process of) created a new Monitor for the installation. Or the third possibility, for some reason or another, 343 Guilty Spark was not ALLOWED to be the Monitor of an installation again, maybe it had to do with the fact that that Monitor didn't think Spark was "mature" enough to handle another installation, or thought that since he lost one installation he would probably lose another. Or, maybe it was pre-programed for the Monitor of the Ark that when constructing a replacement Halo that "when making a new Halo, there must ALWAYS be a new Monitor to go with it, no old monitors allowed." Possible because: A. The Forerunners thought if one managed to get destroyed, it should have a new monitor, because the old Monitor would probably lose it again. Or, to minimize the chance that the old monitor was "compromised" by the Gravemind (actually, now that I think about it, this actually makes a lot of sense). Wait, but also, after reading about how much, "personality" each monitor had (from the adjunct of Halo: The Flood and the new Halo Terminals). It seems as though monitors of that caliber would be hard to build, don't you think? But also, the Ark is probably one of the most advanced things made by the Forerunners, so it may have had the capability to just spit them out on a conveyor belt or something.

Guys, this all came to me in a matter of minuets after reading that one post (to think, one question mark inspired all this). So if I think of some more, I'll be sure to add it. I don't know man, but it keeps me up at night. Vegerot ( talk )  13:27, 5 August 2011 (EDT)!!!


 * I'd say that he assumed de facto caretakership of the ring. While he wasn't created got that ring, he still assumed responsibility for it - if the 04B ring had its own monitor up and running, we should have seen it in the rontrol room - both 343 and 2401 seen to have been designed to automatically associated reclaimers with the superweapon.--  Fore  run  ner '' 14:00, 5 August 2011 (EDT)

I know. But maybe the original Monitor was out and about wondering the Installation, checking to see if there were any problems with it. When WHA-BLAM!! the whole fucking Installation starts caving in on itself. And true, Spark assumed responsibility for the ring, I could kidnap a kid and accept responsibility for him too, that doesn't mean that when the parents come back they're not gonna throw me in jail. Spark could have said, "OK, this is my installation, I'm gonna run and take care of it just like my original one." But that doesn't mean that he was actually allowed to. And think about that other stuff I said. I don't know man, but it keeps me up at night. Vegerot ( talk )  14:09, 5 August 2011 (EDT)!

I put de facto on the end, he may not "officially" been the monitor of installation 04B but as Forerunner said he assumed de facto caretakership of the ring. --CookieMonstersayshello 03:32, 7 August 2011 (EDT)