Forum:Speculation On Elite Ranks

I was browsing through the articles that I usually keep my eye on and I noticed something. A lot of people, or just enough to keep constantly changing the information, seem to think that ranks and positions are the same thing. That the positions/offices of Ship Master, Field Master, and Fleet Master are actual ranks.

They are not. They are offices/positions that high ranking Elites, like The Arbiter, Councilors, Zealots and Ultras can be assigned to. I’ll give you an examples using both militaries.

For humans, Major is a rank. However, a Major can be placed in the position of commanding officer of a battalion. Or, a Major may serve in another position, as the executive officer/2nd in command of larger unit groupings, such as regiments, brigades and divisions. For the Covenant, Zealot is an elite rank. However, a Zealot may be assigned the position of ship master, field master or fleet master. You see where I’m coming from here?

Also, why does it seem to be such a big taboo to even mention a non-Zealot elite rank being a ship master? The fact of the matter is that the majority of Covenant ship masters are probably Ultras or perhaps Major Domos (most likely Ultras). What leads me to this conclusion? Simple common sense. A Zealot is a flag officer (General/Admiral). To have a flag officer serving as the ship master of even half your ships is both over kill and wasteful. Why? Because a flag officer could and would have more important responsibilities than commanding a single ship.

For us, that would be like having an Admiral of some sort serving as the captain (captain is both a position and a rank in the USN and other navies) with over half our ships. Think about it. It doesn’t make sense. Idolo 18:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC) =Comments= Good point.--Spartan 1138 01:00, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

You're right, it isnot a big taboe to mention what ranks probably hold which position... But it can't hurt to mention them all the same, right?--Lieutenant Alan 20:45, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Another thing. Maybe someone should see about changing that whole "Zealot Sub-Ranks" thing on that table that appears at the bottom of each page about an elite rank or title. Maybe call it "Elite Titles", "Elite Positions", "Elite Offices" or something. --Idolo 00:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, that's going by what we can tell from the kind of armor they wear, and I don't think too many people are prepared to change that just yet... we'll probably have to just wait until more info is released. G ü é ß Ł ¥ -∏ é Ґ ∫ ø ñ ¥ -† ħ î <font color="#00ff00">И <font color="#44ff44">g <font color="#99ff99">¥  01:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

You do realize that elite ranks are based on their armor color, right? Also, since the bottom of the page seems to link to the same thing, I would imagine the change wouldn't be so difficult to make. --Idolo 15:49, 13 April 2007 (UTC)