Halopedia talk:Requests for Usergroups/Standards Council of Halopedia

Ranks
One crazy idea that’s come to me is this: we have two, clearly distinct, clearly separate duties for the SCoH, so let’s split the ranks into two categories and we’ll call them the Executive and the Legislative branches. The Executive branch will have a rank system modeled off of a standard Police Force (so Sergeant, Lieutenant, Detective, Special Detective, etc) while the Legislative branch will have less fun ranks that reflect the kind of people who actually deal with writing legislation….. (so ranks like Page, Lawyer, Bureaucrat, etc). The elected members hold the rank of “Senator” meaning collectively they are known as the “Senate” – though they still preside over both the Legislative and Executive branches when it comes to leading the group and giving promotions. One other thing this opens up is possibly following the CoH’s lead on their upper tier promotions – only allowing a few people hold their top two ranks at any given time. I think this works out well on the Executive branch ‘cause I don’t think anyone is going to be contributing tons and tons to the Legislative branch unless they’re a nutjob (well, ok, ASIDE from me). In this case, we could use ranks like, say, Chief and District Attorney or something

Thoughts? --forgottenlord 17:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm....Are you sure we should base it off a Police force? I mean, leave that to the UNSC of Halopedia. Maybe we could base it off of Government? I liked the idea of Senators, but could we define it a bit more clearly? I mean, advisors, etc....

Sorry if this idea sounds more nuts than above...my brains going through a non-stop academic cycle >.> Cheers. Ri ck rol ler Gen eral ÌṂρεσάḹόґ MyVictories 18:42, 3 September 2008 (UTC) BTW, fl, you're not the only nutjob here ;)

Also, each level should have ... more power. Just saying..I guess.


 * The UoH does military ranks, not police. I picked the Police simply because they are the clearest element of the Executive Branch - the part that enforces the laws. --forgottenlord 18:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

The branch idea seems good. It will make it clearer as to what each set of ranks does. Though i'm not sure how the ranks such as 'Detective' would relate to editing.  Ha lo Du de 18:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * What does a Private have to do with editing? --forgottenlord 18:57, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but the Private rank ties in with the UNSC, a direct link to Halo. Whereas this group doesn't have ranks based around Halo. Although, I guess the ranks aren't all important with the usergroup.  Ha lo Du de 19:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I got some ranks going here. For the legislative branch:
 * Director
 * Chief of Staff
 * Legal Advisor
 * Staff Writer
 * Lawyer
 * Intern
 * Page
 * Administrative Assistant

For the Executive Branch:
 * District Attourney
 * Chief
 * Captain
 * Special Investigator
 * Detective
 * Lieutenant
 * Sergeant
 * Cadet

The ordering is up for discussion, as is if anyone wishes to raise a substitution. I went with a 9 rank tier as I think that's standard. The 9th rank is "Senator" and is common for both sides since that's the elected position. Your thoughts? --forgottenlord 18:49, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea, Forgottenlord.--General RyanTheGreat 19:28, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

The ranks seem fine, as does the structure.  Ha lo Du de 19:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

maybe two gruops but Senators and representive, kinda like the government, i dunno. Mr. Halonerd   My Talk  | My FanFic 04:05, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * What? --forgottenlord 04:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I think this is a great idea! Forgottenlord, you are a genius!!! But what about UNSC Navy Ranks? Just a thought. kougermasters 07:41, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * They're already being used by the UoH.... --forgottenlord 14:10, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * But aren't the UoH using UNSC Army Ranks? --kougermasters 04:50, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, it's already confusing me. Either way, I picked based upon what branch things belong to.  The Military is considered the 4th Estate, generally.  Executive, Legislative and Judicial are the 1st through 3rd.  Therefore, I took the most obvious element of the Executive branch (since President isn't on the table) which is the police force.  True, in the grand context of everything, the military falls under the purview of the Executive branch, but the Executive branch is meant to enforce laws and I don't see the military branch "enforcing laws" - protecting, defending and invading from external threats (human or natural), sure, but that still has very little to do with the laws the Legislative branch passes.  On the other hand, the Police force DOES execute these laws by arresting violators and then prosecuting them (which is why we have the DA as the top rank).  Hope that makes sense. --forgottenlord 05:22, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Passing Standards
Alright, a standard is submitted to the Council, is edited up and when everyone feels it is sufficiently done, it goes to a vote. I’m thinking we want to give some form of veto power to the admins so I would like to suggest that the requirements for passing the vote are a majority support from the users and a minimum of 2 approvals from the admins. At one point, I was thinking having an additional majority support from the elected leaders of the group might be nice (y’know, all the responsibility on them, maybe give them some power), but I’ll toss this out on my primary idea and if people think the other idea is better, I’ll bring it forward as the primary instead.

Obviously, a Standard for a Standard is:
 * 1) It has to have a clear focus
 * 2) It has to indicate the reasoning behind its purpose. Reasonings can range from “Using X in Y way makes it look unprofessional and thus lowers our quality” to “To standardize the general format for X”
 * 3) It has to be concise enough that the average user can use the standard (I think the biggest violator of that rule will be me) and complete enough that the average user knows what is expected

Thoughts? --forgottenlord 17:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Name
Why does every single group around this place need to end in "of Halopedia?" We know where we are. I think Standards Council would work just fine. 23:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, my first draft had it called just the Standards Council. I added "of Halopedia" because we seem to be doing that with everything.... --forgottenlord 23:47, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Once again, not that the name matters much really. As long as the cause of the usergroup is clear I don't really see if "of Halopedia" matters at all.  Ha <font color="Red">lo <font color="Black">Du <font color="Red">de 19:34, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * All the other groups end with of Halopedia, so why shouldn't this one? I think Standards Council of Halopedia looks just fine! And so does SCoH!!! kougermasters 07:39, 7 September 2008 (UTC)