Forum:Request for Usergroup:Defenders of Halopedia

Request for Usergroup
Greetings Fellow Halopedians and Administrators. 

Months ago, before the reformatting of Halopedia, there was a usergroup that dealt with the stuff that the Admins and Janitors overlooked. It was a great usergroup, a core group dedicated to the eradication of spam and bringing vandals to the notice of those who wielded the banhammer. But there was not enough stuff for the group to do - not enough vandals to ban, not enough spam to delete, etc.

With the introduction of polls, quizzes and blogs, though, Lovemuffin and Specops306 feel that there is a real need for another usergroup - the Defenders of Halopedia, tasked with removing all content that doesnt meet Halopedia standards. There are a myriad of polls asking lewd things about certain female characters, quiz questions that intentionally mislead, blogs that are just crap. There certainly seems enough to do.

User:Lovemuffin and User:Specops306 humbly submit this idea for approval by the Administrators. With so much crap flooding Halopedia, such a usergroup can only improve Halopedia.

For policies that should be adhered to, see Halopedia:Blocking Policy, Halopedia:What Halopedia is not, Halopedia:Vandalism is not a game, Halopedia:Personal Attacks, and Halopedia:Canon Policy

'For months, the Admins and Janitors have born the brunt of the tide of spam. '' BUT NOW IT'S OUR TURN! '''

'''Help establish, join, improve, and expand this group that will not leave one butchery of the English language untouched! '''

Yours:
 *  Specops306 ,  Kora 'Morhek  06:58, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Lovemuffin Wiki UserpageTalk PageContributions[[Image:Dancing_master_chief.gif|30px]] 07:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Votes
'IMPORTANT: YOU MUST HAVE HAD TO MADE 50 EDITS BEFORE YOU CAN BE ALLOWED TO VOTE! '

Support (13/0 sysop)

 * as per above.  Specops306 ,  Kora 'Morhek  06:58, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * as per above. --Halofandelta09 04:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * as per above. Lovemuffin Wiki UserpageTalk PageContributions[[Image:Dancing_master_chief.gif|30px]] 07:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * -- Just one thing: Usergroups are mainly for improving articles, but yeah, this one would be great. -- Sgt. johnson [[Image:General-gr1.gif|30px]] 12:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * as per above the prophets have betrays us!!! C F 0 <font color="Gold">0 <font color="GreenYellow">1 13:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * As per Specops and Lovemuffin's statement. [[Image:CommanderTony Logo.PNG|25px]] General  Tony ,  Administrator of Halopedia  Talk 3/12/2008
 * This would be a great usergroup! White Hawk
 * - In order to preserve this site a reputable source for Halo information, it is imperative that the articles reflect a sense of professionalism. You have my support. NotDrPhil
 * I think this would be an awesome usergroup! I am ready to get rid of all the stupid stuff! - Spartan - 996
 * That sounds like an awesome idea. i would love to have a clean and free wikia.-User:Spartan 816 01:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sergeant  Masterchief46517  [[Image:ODSTbattlerifle.JPG|20px]] com link 02:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * We must do everything we can to try to make Halopedia the ultimate and perfect Halo resource! And that includes removing all imperfections and keeping it that way. I'm ready! 343 GuiltySpark 23:47, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm definitely ready for a Halopedia without stupid poll questions and quiz questions that actually have true answers, which aren't based on opinion. - Umos 'Qikost  Sword-wielding Minors and Shining Blue Spiders <font color="D3D3D3">Comm  23:58, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think we should stop this foul leet talk! I am joining once it becomes a group! - Halosean
 * as per above - <font color="Green">Scorpio117
 * I am ready to make halopedia a better place! - User:Spartan Omega G44
 * Its a great idea...lets be the language police. Thanks all of you guys- User:Themastergecko
 * As much as I really like you guys, you have under 50 mainspace edits. Please, check the Voting policy before voting. -- <font color="Black">Sgt. <font color="Black">johnson [[Image:General-gr1.gif|30px]] 00:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree, as I have often come across wrong spelling and things that don't make sense. - <font colour="Blue">SparTan J-52
 * <font color="Black">Incendiary [[Image:UoH-inverted.png|30px]] "Converse"<font color="Black">"Gifts" 07:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Your all mine Alex 3991

Neutral (1/0 sysop)
I am neutral because I have been through the fight of too many usergroups and not for the right reasons earlier last year. I would love to see a usergroup like this used but I question if it would be a usergroup too many. <font color="Black">Spartan-010:Stryker My Comm My Battles  23:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Against (5/2 sysop)
I personally think that the DoH is a very good idea, but frankly, I truly oppose it mainly because we've had a janitor usergroup that cleans up vandalism and spam. I remember that usergroup was deleted because it violated the troll policy (or some other policy, I really don't recall). And my response to the misspelled words/grammar parts: Halopedian users are expected to make constructive edits with correct spelling and grammar. --  Blemo  <font color="#A9A9A9">TALK • <font color="#A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS • <font color="#A9A9A9">EMAIL • <font color="#A9A9A9"><span style="font-weight: light;" title="Duh. (Alt.) -- A term used when someone that is dumb enough to stare at a pointless message on someone's signature for no apparent reason. You reading this pretty much proves the point.">MESSAGE 01:13, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know, the Vandal Fighter group. However, Blemo, as said in DoH policies, the reason why DoH was created was to not only clean up edits, but fix up the new quizzes, polls, and blogs (QPB's). The QBP's are what makes this different from the Vandal Fighters. Now with the QPB's, the amount of spam and lewd content has increased tenfold. The DoH now fixes these problems, and helps the admin's and gives them more time to fix and set up the new "skin". <font color="RoyalBlue">Lovemuffin <font color="DarkSlateGray">Wiki Userpage<font color="Gray">Talk PageContributions[[Image:Dancing_master_chief.gif|30px]] 01:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Like many other usergroups that propose to improve some aspect of halopedia, I feel that this usergroup, like so many others will have a great following for the first few months, but slowly, people will lose interest, find something better to do, and many bored (new) "halopedians" and nothing to do is a very bad combination. For the time being, I must oppose this usergroup, but my opinion is subject to change with proper reassurance. If anything, there should be a usergroup that educates ALL nOObs to halopedia on the policies, codes, and conduct before a SINGLE edit is made period. Peace. <font color=Black>Sp <font color=DimGray>art <font color=Gray>an- <font color=DarkGray>Ja <font color=Silver>mes  05:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, since we are the "Defenders" of Halopedia, if we find spam, we can report the culprit who could then receive punishment. That is being done already but it feels like spam is spreading faster than it is being deleted, and I believe the DoH can help balance that ratio in Halopedia's favor. Also the DoH could do more then just fix spam, we could go through the site enforcing and broadcasting the policies. We can do something like showing on the Main Page recently deleted spam or something. <font color="Red">IMPORTANT: The DoH isn't just made to edit spam, it's on the drawing board and can be improved to also serve the Administrators needs.  <font color="RoyalBlue">Lovemuffin <font color="DarkSlateGray">Wiki Userpage<font color="Gray">Talk PageContributions[[Image:Dancing_master_chief.gif|30px]] 06:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

- Strongest possible opposition. To be candid, the concept is great. As for myself, I am infuriated with the new content, of which a disappointing disproportion does not fit ED's policy. However, as Wikia policy says, it isn't wise to Feed the Trolls —— there is no need for an organized coalition to hunt down offending quizzes, polls, and picture games. This concept was tried last year before most of you were here, and it ended up in a disaster that left the community fairly winded. The concept is good, but once these "Defenders" become mobilized, inevitably, to sustain itself, it'll turn into militarism or some similar system to maintain coherence, and then things to begin to degenerate from there. You simply need to flag an item to remove it from the circulations so that the administrators, such as I, can purview them. Flagged content is removed from circulation and is set for administrative review. Please remember that. Regards, RelentlessRecusant  'o the Halopedia Team http://images.wikia.com/rainbowsix/images/7/73/GDI2.jpg <font color="#A9A9A9">TALK • <font color="A9A9A9">MESSAGE 05:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I completely agree with RR. If you find something that is inappropriate, copy the link and tell a moderator. There is no possible need for a group to do something that, as a community, can do together. Bllasae

Strongly oppose First, read the Vandal Page, as per rule (I think some where is stated) that a user should not claim him or herself a vandal fighter, as that will encourage vandals to continue vandalizing Halopedia for challenging the "fighters". The same concept applies with the Defenders of Halopedia, once claimed to be a defender, a vandal will try to challenge them, it would not improve Halopedia, it would just do much more harm then good, thus, reporting and correcting all possible mistakes on Halopedia is what we are here for (or else, to learn more about Halo, socializing is another matter). <font color="Silver">Master <font color="DarkGray">Chief <font color="Gray">Petty <font color="DimGray">Officer <font color="RoyalBlue">Spartan Contribution 10:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I have to take the side of all the users who oppose (as most of them were here last year). I saw firsthand the actions of the previous usergroups that did this, and unfortunately, they just aggrevated the problem by giving vandals all the attention they want...which makes them come back, and be even more annoying. The solution to the problem, I feel, is more Admins, not more usergroups. The mateiral should be flagged so we can delete it. -- E D  04:31, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Questions
Please add any questions you have about such a usergroup, and hopefully they shall be clarified quickly

Is this like a janitoring group? <font color="LimeGreen">C <font color="RoyalBlue">F <font color="Salmon">0 <font color="Gold">0 <font color="GreenYellow">1 13:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, Janitors and Admins as members of the group would be appreciated, but mostly its for all people to bring material that's not up to par to the attention of those who can delete it.  Specops306 ,  Kora 'Morhek  19:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC)